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But Polian still gets the credit for taking the swing on Mathis like he gets the blame for his misses, has been most of our contention all along. Ballard should still get the credit for taking the swing on Raimann even if Raimann might have outplayed his draft slot like Polian having Mathis do that. There has to be some level of scouting confidence to feel like they could take the leap of faith, it wasn't a blind leap of faith, it was founded in what they scouted the player could do. If the player did more than what he believed they could do, it is gravy. So the GM knows the kind of player he is getting typically but how the player responds to coaching and shows heart and exceeds his draft slot, that is on the coaches and players, right?
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Well, my Raimann opinion is the exact same opinion as my Polian/Mathis opinion and NE/Brady opinion that I've carried for about 15 years. But seems to get lifted into an argument when luck is attributed to Ballard. Conceptually, no GM is any better at finding "late round gems" than any other. Looking at how they passed on a player several times just like every other GM did, they probably just get lucky. And that's basically what Ballard said...at least in this case when a talented player was still on the board (not exactly got passed over several times)
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Put it this way, your first post in this thread reminded me of your Raimann argument, and I figured it would come up eventually. Regarding the reaction to Ballard if AD is a good player, meh. I don't think the main implication has been that Ballard played the game so well that he knew exactly what would happen before everyone else, and he got what he wanted. I think the argument is that whether a GM stays and picks a guy, or trades back and picks a guy, if the guy becomes a good player, it's a credit to the GM. Maybe you've interpreted that argument differently, but I think what you've said above is a misrepresentation.
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LOL. Its not shocking at all if you bothered to understand anything about what my consistent message has been about capital being devoted to positional value...instead of Gs, ILBs, RBs, and goal keeper FSs. When and if it would ever happen, I'd be happy. I figured it would happen at some point. Bust is a term used to describe a 1st round pick that went bad, and GMs should know enough about 1st round picks to not pick a bust. That's my standard, and opinion. QBs are an unusual pick, because so much "hope" and consequence is attached to the pick, so busts are going to happen with QBs. GMs should never whiff on a position player in the 1st round, IMO. What were talking about here are guys that might play better than anyone figured...which we know because 31 GMs passed on lower round guys multiple times. The evaluation processes that all teams use....and professional pundits as well....fail to capture that lower round prospect. So when the standardized process fails to recognize proper value, a team being rewarded with great value can be described as having good luck.
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