a06cc Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 4 minutes ago, jvan1973 said: Again, he missed a bunch in college. I guess you missed it Still hasn’t missed more than Matt Gay currently in the NFL 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago Just now, a06cc said: Still hasn’t missed more than Matt Gay currently in the NFL 🤣 He hasn't made one in the NFL 🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a06cc Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 4 minutes ago, jvan1973 said: He hasn't made one in the NFL 🤣🤣 Yes still hasn’t missed more 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1959Colts Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 4 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said: If he isn’t healthy he needs to be out on IR. If he is healthy he should be cut. It almost cost them the game. So Gay missed another kick. I won't be surprised if we see him back on the injury report this coming week. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restinpeacesweetchloe Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago Just now, 1959Colts said: So Gay missed another kick. I won't be surprised if we see him back on the injury report this coming week. He is hitting the shorter kicks but is struggling with over 50. It was a 54 yarder . Colts had a better chance to pick up 3 yards on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restinpeacesweetchloe Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago They should call up the PS kicker and make Gay inactive. You don’t have to cut him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1959Colts Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 1 minute ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said: He is hitting the shorter kicks but is struggling with over 50. It was a 54 yarder . Colts had a better chance to pick up 3 yards on offense. That 54 yarder was ugly. Even if there was a second goal post, next to regular one, it still wouldn't been good. Gay was signed because his expertise was 50+ yard kicks. And last year, after that Baltimore game, everyone thought he was ligit. This year, I don't trust him from any distance. period. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a06cc Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 3 minutes ago, 1959Colts said: That 54 yarder was ugly. Even if there was a second goal post, next to regular one, it still wouldn't been good. Gay was signed because his expertise was 50+ yard kicks. And last year, after that Baltimore game, everyone thought he was ligit. This year, I don't trust him from any distance. period. We should also never again game plan for a field goal kicker again like we did with LegoMan who could only make 38 yard kicks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a06cc Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 28 minutes ago, jvan1973 said: So funny to see fans calling for people to be cut. A nerd calling for an athlete who is in the top 1 percent in the world to be cut. My goodness. I hope my boss isn't that strict I work for my State. I miss something I will for sure be fired 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 1 hour ago, John Hammonds said: Do we have to "cut" and "re-sign" Gay to demote him to the practice squad? Or can we swap out our kickers, keeping both on the roster, without having to do that? Honestly, I don’t know. Someone like @Superman would. Or @w87r would, but I haven’t seen him in a while. He may be lurking? Or @GoColts8818 might know. Sorry I’m not more helpful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 3 hours ago, NewColtsFan said: Honestly, I don’t know. Someone like @Superman would. Or @w87r would, but I haven’t seen him in a while. He may be lurking? Or @GoColts8818 might know. Sorry I’m not more helpful. Yes you have to release them and then re-sign them to the practice squad. You can’t just demote a player there or teams would do that to get around waivers. Granted waivers wouldn’t apply to Gay but he also would rather be free agent then demoted to PS as would most vets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2BeHere Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 3 hours ago, 1959Colts said: That 54 yarder was ugly. Even if there was a second goal post, next to regular one, it still wouldn't been good. Gay was signed because his expertise was 50+ yard kicks. And last year, after that Baltimore game, everyone thought he was ligit. This year, I don't trust him from any distance. period. yup, every time they trot gay out even on an extra point I just say well it’s a 50/50 parlay at this point. It sucks that if a game is on the line I am terrified if Gay is called upon for anything longer than 40-45 yards…and from closer I am still nervous at best. Terrible feeling. Kickers gotta make those points way more often than they miss from all reasonable distances. You know anything from 7-54 yards. Anything over 54 and I’m just going to say it’s a crapshoot for almost any kicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Waylon Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Is this still hernia related? Because if it’s not, we paid a bunch of money just to have Blankenship 2.0. But anyways… Chase McLaughlin is pretty good. Too bad we never had a chance to keep him- oh wait a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Hammonds Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 10 hours ago, GoColts8818 said: Yes you have to release them and then re-sign them to the practice squad. You can’t just demote a player there or teams would do that to get around waivers. Granted waivers wouldn’t apply to Gay but he also would rather be free agent then demoted to PS as would most vets. I suppose the team could always declare him "injured" (whether he is or not), just to get around the rule. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restinpeacesweetchloe Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Just now, John Hammonds said: I suppose the team could always declare him "injured" (whether he is or not), just to get around the rule. They can always call up the kicker on the PS and make Gay a healthy scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Hammonds Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 1 minute ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said: They can always call up the kicker on the PS and make Gay a healthy scratch. They could. But then they would have 2 kickers on the game day 47-man roster. If one balks at having 3 QB's on the active roster, having 2 Kickers might get stuck in the throat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Colt Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 16 hours ago, JColts72 said: Kick still not as bad as Vandy in that playoff game. "He missed it." -Peyton Manning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Colt Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 17 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said: He is hitting the shorter kicks but is struggling with over 50. It was a 54 yarder . Colts had a better chance to pick up 3 yards on offense. Take a look at the extra point and FG's he did make, they were barely inside the upright. He isn't right and is a liability right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Waylon Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago The yips. He's got the * yips. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Miller Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 3 hours ago, John Hammonds said: I suppose the team could always declare him "injured" (whether he is or not), just to get around the rule. Whatever it takes. The dude isn’t reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 3 hours ago, John Hammonds said: I suppose the team could always declare him "injured" (whether he is or not), just to get around the rule. You can call him injured but that doesn’t put him on the practice squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADnum1 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago I blame Ballard for his Gay support 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defjamz26 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago If he is indeed healthy and has no physical limitations, then a conversation needs to be had. You sign a kicker to the contract we signed Gay to to be able to hit the ones over 50+. You can’t cut a vet like Shaq Leonard last year for poor play, but then let the kicker routinely miss kicks and not make a change. @NewColtsFan has said that there are cap ramifications that make a cut unlikely, so I’ll trust that info. But at the very least he needs to be a healthy scratch and you need to see what you have in your other kicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 23 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said: If he is indeed healthy and has no physical limitations, then a conversation needs to be had. You sign a kicker to the contract we signed Gay to to be able to hit the ones over 50+. You can’t cut a vet like Shaq Leonard last year for poor play, but then let the kicker routinely miss kicks and not make a change. @NewColtsFan has said that there are cap ramifications that make a cut unlikely, so I’ll trust that info. But at the very least he needs to be a healthy scratch and you need to see what you have in your other kicker. To clarify… My comment about cap ramifications isn’t mine alone. I believe GoColts1888 and Superman have said that before I did. Perhaps other posters as well. I was just being an echo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restinpeacesweetchloe Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 4 hours ago, John Hammonds said: They could. But then they would have 2 kickers on the game day 47-man roster. If one balks at having 3 QB's on the active roster, having 2 Kickers might get stuck in the throat! Because the PS kicker is on the PS he would revert right back to the PS. Then you just make gay inactive so he wouldn’t count as the 47 that day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyagent17 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 22 hours ago, csmopar said: Not in regular season. but he’s 100 percent on XP. And on short kicks but he cannot be trusted on longer kicks 1 hour ago, ADnum1 said: I blame Ballard for his Gay support 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyagent17 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago its mostly mental? Dude you have been kicking in the NFL for years. If you dont trust your mind then take a seat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, indyagent17 said: its mostly mental? Dude you have been kicking in the NFL for years. If you dont trust your mind then take a seat It happened with Vanderjagt . He was the most accurate kicker in the history of the NFL. Then he lost it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Waylon Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 48 minutes ago, jvan1973 said: It happened with Vanderjagt . He was the most accurate kicker in the history of the NFL. Then he lost it. Then it’s probably time to move on. Past time, even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 5 minutes ago, John Waylon said: Then it’s probably time to move on. Past time, even. I'm not sure if that's the case with gay. If he's hurt he should probably shut it down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restinpeacesweetchloe Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago He said today there is no injury issues. It’s mental. Something about not seeing lines correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said: He said today there is no injury issues. It’s mental. Something about not seeing lines correctly. That's worse I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Waylon Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 13 minutes ago, jvan1973 said: I'm not sure if that's the case with gay. If he's hurt he should probably shut it down He literally said there is no injury. And for you of all people to suddenly defend him for an injury is quite the flip-flop. Less than a month ago you were one of the people yelling the loudest to dismiss anyone who even entertained the very idea that he may be coming back too quickly from hernia surgery because we weren’t his personal physician. He’s not hurt. He’s just lost it. He lost it sometime last year, and a return does not appear to be in the cards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, indyagent17 said: And on short kicks but he cannot be trusted on longer kicks 🤣 Neither can Gay…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard pallo Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said: He said today there is no injury issues. It’s mental. Something about not seeing lines correctly. If the coaches are fine letting him get into shape so am I. Kickers have personal lives too. Just like all of us. Still early in the season. Got to trust the coaches on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 58 minutes ago, John Waylon said: He literally said there is no injury. And for you of all people to suddenly defend him for an injury is quite the flip-flop. Less than a month ago you were one of the people yelling the loudest to dismiss anyone who even entertained the very idea that he may be coming back too quickly from hernia surgery because we weren’t his personal physician. He’s not hurt. He’s just lost it. He lost it sometime last year, and a return does not appear to be in the cards. Well, unlike you. I don't know the man. It appears you know him and his situation personally. I'm not sure why you didn't mention that. I never defended him from anything. I said we have no way of knowing. That still holds true. Just because someone makes a guess and they may be correct, doesn't mean they knew. Like you now suggesting you know when he lost it. Claiming he isn't hurt. You don't know squat. You're a clown if you think you know exactly what's going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Waylon Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, jvan1973 said: Well, unlike you. I don't know the man. It appears you know him and his situation personally. I'm not sure why you didn't mention that. I never defended him from anything. I said we have no way of knowing. That still holds true. Just because someone makes a guess and they may be correct, doesn't mean they knew. Like you now suggesting you know when he lost it. Claiming he isn't hurt. You don't know squat. You're a clown if you think you know exactly what's going on Luckily they track stats, and it turns out he was missing kicks in games last year. Which is, you know, when the problems started. But maybe he started missing kicks last season because nothing was actually wrong and it was more fun than hitting them? Would you like me to produce some links of evidence of his misses? We can pin it down to almost the exact time of day the misses started. I’d hate for you to move the goalposts again, this time in the face of indisputable evidence. I’m not claiming he isn’t hurt. He is. Those are his words out of his mouth. Not mine. Not yours. His. But what would he know about it? I’m sure he doesn’t know himself and his situation personally, either. No one can ever win with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADnum1 Posted 10 minutes ago Share Posted 10 minutes ago 2 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said: He said today there is no injury issues. It’s mental. Something about not seeing lines correctly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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