Colts vs Packers post game thread

[Solid84]

Just now, Goatface Killah said:

The problem I have is that Taylor had only 12 carries and had over 100 yards. 8.6 a carry.

 

I mean what is Shane doing?

 

This isnt the offense I envisioned.

 

I was seeing a run focused, play action attack with occasional deep shots.

 

Anthony wont succeed if we ask him to carry the load. 

 

100% agree. Steichen is playcalling like AR is a veteran. He needs to give him a chance. 

 

I do think they panicked a little because they had so little TOP. They never got a rhythm going before AR started airing it out. They lost sight of the Packers only being up by 2 scores.

[John Hammonds]

"We like our guys."

"That's on me."

"I'm gonna do what I believe, and if that gets me fired then it gets me fired."

 

Quotes to remember.

[GoColts8818]

3 minutes ago, IinD said:

Not that it's 100% give up time but it's safe to say we're in a tough spot where this can easily start to crumble and get ugly fast. 

 

We're DEFINITELY having trouble stopping the run. 200+ in 2 weeks and our anchor on that side will DEFINITELY be missing time.

The good news is they got it under control in the second half when the Packers were trying to run but then the Packers adjusted and went to the pass and well we saw the results.

[Dobbinblitz]

Austin Seibert of the Commanders makes 1,125 mil. He kicked 7 field goals today. Matt Gay, so far, is not the money kicker they thought signed.

[Blueblood23]

53 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Gus plan should have been stopping the run. That’s it.  If Steichen had been competent we would of won despite the defense.

I’m sure it was. Players have gap assignments and need to make tackles. They aren’t doing it in the first two games. It’s too bad many of the players were retained for more money. Anyway they supposedly have a good locker room. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

So who is the Bears running back lol.

[Lifetime Colt]

Seems like he takes off half of the plays. No intensity, or sense of urgency, not leader like...

 

37 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

That response from Pittman is so discouraging. Your a captain and all you can say is I have no idea.

 

[Lancer1]

I'm encouraged - as bad as we played all game, we still had the ball on the final drive with a chance to win the game, albeit a very small chance.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just now, Blueblood23 said:

I’m sure it was. Players have gap assignments and need to make tackles. They aren’t doing it in the first two games. It’s too bad many of the players were retained for more money. Anyway they supposedly have a good locker room. 

No it wasn’t. Greg Olson mentioned several times the light boxes. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

2 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

The good news is they got it under control in the second half when the Packers were trying to run but then the Packers adjusted and went to the pass and well we saw the results.

It says a lot how they don’t trust the secondary that they refused to fix.

[Patrick Miller]

21 minutes ago, Solid84 said:

Luck had a completion percentage of 54.1% his rookie year. 

 

2012: 54.1%

2013: 60.2%

2014: 61.7%

2015: 55.3%

2016: 63.5%

 

He has a career completion percentage of 60.8%. Someone told me here today you need a completion percentage of 65+% to be good, lol.

 

Peyton Manning 56.7% his rookie year.

 

Both Luck and Manning had SIGNIFICANTLY more experience than AR coming into the league. Josh Allen is another guy with a bad cp through his first TWO seasons actually. He had a bad cp in college as well.

 

You don't like AR, fine. But you haven't even given him a chance. That's just hating.

 

I don’t hate the dude. I just want a competent quarterback …not just an athlete. He stunk it up today, man. If We would’ve had a more accurate quarterback we would’ve won the game.

[Solid84]

Just now, Patrick Miller said:

I don’t hate the dude. I just want a competent quarterback …not just an athlete. He stunk it up today, man. We would’ve had a more accurate quarterback we would’ve won the game.

Did you say the same thing when Luck was overthrowing his targets?

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just now, Patrick Miller said:

I don’t hate the dude. I just want a competent quarterback …not just an athlete. He stunk it up today, man. We would’ve had a more accurate quarterback we would’ve won the game.

If it were not for dropped passes we win this game. This wasn’t all on AR. It was also on Steichen and the WR.

[Blueblood23]

1 minute ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

No it wasn’t. Greg Olson mentioned several times the light boxes. 

You don’t think the running game was a point of emphasis with Willis as the GB quarterback? I do so if it wasn’t then all these coaches need to be shown the door. 

[Patrick Miller]

Just now, Solid84 said:

Did you say the same thing when Luck was overthrowing his targets?

I don’t recall luck being this bad, but I do remember *ing when he threw a boneheaded pick. How long are you willing to be patient with this guy?

[luv_pony_express]

9 minutes ago, Dark_Indy said:

 

I understand that he's a project, but living in Gainesville and having to watch him play for the Gators, then go to the Colts? I've had a bit more experience watching Richardson than most. 

 

He's just not good. He's an athlete sure, but he's the same player he was in college. Inaccurate, but a cannon arm. 

 

Sure his intangibles are good. His body type is Cam Newton, and he's got the arm strength of Bradshaw, but his game sense is just subpar. It's the small things that add up. 

 

The RPO mistakes today were killers. Not even talking interceptions. Just not recognizing the correct read cost the Colts a drive in the 4th quarter, and led to Sermon getting wrecked for a loss. (I believe that was the missed FG drive). 

If you understand that he’s a project, then you wouldn’t be worried about his play at Florida or declaring him a bust after his 6th start.

 

His problems are fixable.  Will they get fixed?  I don’t know.  But it’s silly to sit here today and declare that they won’t.

[DavePSL]

1 minute ago, Solid84 said:

Did you say the same thing when Luck was overthrowing his targets?

If I'm not mistaked Luck's overthrows led us to the playoffs

[2006Coltsbestever]

This crap is so disappointing, I don't even nowhere to start. I am just going to get drunk and watch the KC/Cincy game. I at least have my Cornhuskers back after 27 years. 

[Patrick Miller]

Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

This crap is so disappointing, I don't even nowhere to start. I am just going to get drunk and watch the KC/Cincy game. I at least have my Cornhuskers back after 27 years. 

Ugh KC. I can’t stand them.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, Patrick Miller said:

Ugh KC. I can’t stand them.

I have that game here. 

[Patrick Miller]

Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I have that game here. 

 

Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I have that game here. 

Yeah, I could watch it if I wanted to. I’m in Missouri.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just wait until colts play Fields in two weeks who can throw and run. lol 

5 minutes ago, Blueblood23 said:

You don’t think the running game was a point of emphasis with Willis as the GB quarterback? I do so if it wasn’t then all these coaches need to be shown the door. 

It clearly wasn’t or they wouldn’t of had light boxes.

[Solid84]

2 minutes ago, Patrick Miller said:

I don’t recall luck being this bad, but I do remember *ing when he threw a boneheaded pick. How long are you willing to be patient with this guy?

Well, here's the way I see it: This is AR's rookie season to me. Ups and downs are to be expected. I just want to be able to see he's better from week 1 to week 18.

 

Next season he has to keep building off of what he learns this season. He has to take big steps in 2025. 

 

What he needs to learn he needs to learn on the field. Taking him off the field at this point will just destroy his confidence. If they wanted to sit him they should've done that from the get go (incidentally, I advocated for sitting him from the start).

[Dobbinblitz]

Manning threw 28 interceptions his rookie year.

i would be looking at a good at number of the players Ballard resigned and rewarded with new contracts who are underachieving in a big way.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

I haven’t read this yet but George is right with this headline.

 

[masterlock]

1 hour ago, Happy2BeHere said:

2:1 time of possession…the defense sucked again.

The defense AND offense lost the game. 

[Solid84]

5 minutes ago, DavePSL said:

If I'm not mistaked Luck's overthrows led us to the playoffs

Did his WRs drop 5 passes every game? Did his defense give up 260+ rushing yards?

[DougDew]

• AR should have been a 4th round developmental draft pick in hopes of becoming NFL backup quality...but its okay to say that about Sam Ehlinger and Stetson Bennett despite their awesome college resume's.
• The defense is NOT the reason the offense can't score.  Its the offense.  Its the QB.
• Alec Pierce gets better separation than Pittman.
• JT found the boundary...sometimes by himself.  Hallelujah. 
• Why did so many think the TE room was stacked, LOL.

[1959Colts]

I don't think I ever saw a team, where on nearly every play, the first defender, and often the second, miss the tackle

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, Solid84 said:

Did his WRs drop 5 passes every game? Did his defense give up 260+ rushing yards?

The way GB was running the ball in the 1st half was so deflating it made me want to puke.

[Patrick Miller]

1 minute ago, Solid84 said:

Well, here's the way I see it: This is AR's rookie season to me. Ups and downs are to be expected. I just want to be able to see he's better from week 1 to week 18.

 

Next season he has to keep building off of what he learns this season. He has to take big steps in 2025. 

 

What he needs to learn he needs to learn on the field. Taking him off the field at this point will just destroy his confidence. If they wanted to sit him they should've done that from the get go (incidentally, I advocated for sitting him from the start).

Maybe. Although leaving him in when he’s struggling might be detrimental. I think it’s gonna be a brutal season my friend…. honestly it feels like we’ve been cursed ever since we let Manning go.

[Goatface Killah]

11 minutes ago, Solid84 said:

Did you say the same thing when Luck was overthrowing his targets?

Please dont compare Luck to Anthony lol

[2006Coltsbestever]

I am Mr Positive and Mr Optimism and love the Colts, but today's loss is unacceptable, losing to freakin Malik Wills and giving up 10 yards a carry in the 1st half. Gus Bradley needs to be shown the door, that is what I think of it.

[masterlock]

1 hour ago, richard pallo said:

I could support benching AR and starting Flacco.  AR is not ready.  It’s a win now league.  Richardson just is not ready to win.  He needs to develop.  Playing him could easily cost us the playoffs.  Flacco could get us in and maybe AR can work on his accuracy during practice and not lose us games.

That' ain't gonna happen Richardson needs experience more than anything, and the Colts aren't going to deprive him of that.

[Solid84]

Just now, Goatface Killah said:

Please dont compare Luck to Anthony lol

AR is not on Luck's level - yet at least. I was purely talking accuracy. Luck had a cannon of an arm too and relied on that too much as well early on. Led to a lot of overthrows.

 

AR is a lot more raw. Decision making and accuracy will get better with practice.

[DougDew]

5 minutes ago, Solid84 said:

Well, here's the way I see it: This is AR's rookie season to me. Ups and downs are to be expected. I just want to be able to see he's better from week 1 to week 18.

 

Next season he has to keep building off of what he learns this season. He has to take big steps in 2025. 

But I was told we needed to sign veteran secondary players this season because we're close to winning the Division.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Steichen has to get back to what this team does well and make the game simpler for AR.

 

[richard pallo]

It’s obvious to me we wouldn’t have won nine games last year if AR played the entire season.  Same goes for this year.  I think Flacco could get us in this year with this roster.  AR has a long way to go.  I don’t care for the way he delivers the ball either.  His arm motion makes for more inaccurate throws imo.  Throws hard with a lot of heat no doubt.  But I don’t like the motion.  He tends to overthrow the target a lot.  

[Colt Overseas]

Some thoughts.

 

On offense:

• I think Downs is proving to be a bigger loss than I would have anticipated. I think AR is missing a guy that can get open quickly and keep the offense on schedule.
• For the money were paying Pittman, he isn't good enough to take over the passing attack, and we're seeing the argument why he isn't a true WR1 flesh out now.
• I think when Downs comes back, I think we'll see Mitchell be used situationally, he has flashed, but isn't reliable enough to be out there +50% of the time.
• Shane needs to do a better job playcalling obviously too. But I think they'll get things fixed eventually.
• TE room will need be be overhauled next offseason. Likely we go here Day 2 in the draft next year

On Defense:

• Same thoughts as most, just embarrassing we can't stop the runs. If Buck is out for a period of time, we're going to be in a deeper hole.
• Our LB play is awful, I thought we might see Speed take a  step forward on a contract year but it's not happening. 
• I'm not sure what happened with the edge defenders, but I'm pretty sure Paye got benched during the game for Dayo (who in fairness did play well at LDE). But then I think Latu was ruled out during the second half and Paye came back in. Paye was outright atrocious at setting the edge today
• I think it's easy to forgot that amidst all the awful run defending, our pass defense is pretty horrendous too. Will went 12/14, 122 yards , TD and a rating of 126.8. Just inexcusable really.
• Thought Cross played hard again, one of the few bright spots so far
• Bradley won't last the year at this rate, outcoached comfortably by Slovik and LaFluer these past two weekend 

[2006Coltsbestever]

Luck is actually a top 40 QB of all-time if you look at every QB that has played over the last 100 years. Short career but his wins and stats + talent and eye test gets him in the top 40. When he retired, it screwed us bigtime. I just have to face reality.