NFL Preview Colts at Falcons plus injury reports

[richard pallo]

5 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

It happens. Every player plays long enough they are going to have a year of injuries. Just not his year. Freeland has played 9 games and smith 8.

Sort of adds to the backdrop of the Veldheer signing.  Insurance just in case.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

2 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

Sort of adds to the backdrop of the Veldheer signing.  Insurance just in case.

That signing probably wouldn’t have happened if colts were  not in playoff contention.

[richard pallo]

2 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

That signing probably wouldn’t have happened if colts were  not in playoff contention.

Agree.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

So Pittman was listed with that shoulder when they had the walk through so probably just resting shoulder today and it was from the concussion.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Falcons getting all their Oline back.

 

 

[ColtStrong2013]

4 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

That point spread still has me puzzled as well. I pointed to, just more people are putting money on Atlanta - that is how it works usually, but I have been hearing different things on that. There are several betting web sites where a lot of people are putting their money on Indy actually.

 

We have the better team, better QB, better Coach, Taylor and Pittman are both playing, and we have won 5 out of 6 games. Just as a non-biased observer because I get nothing out of Indy being favored, I would think Indy would be favored by at least 3. The home team always gets 3. I think we win by at least a FG. They must know something I don't know, because I do find the Falcons being favored by 2.5 strange. 

https://bloggingdirty.com/posts/pro-bettors-causing-jaw-dropping-shift-in-colts-vs-falcons-odds-01hj78qxw2t6

 

Good write-up on the shift. “Pro/ sharp money” causing it. 

[1959Colts]

37 minutes ago, ColtStrong2013 said:

https://bloggingdirty.com/posts/pro-bettors-causing-jaw-dropping-shift-in-colts-vs-falcons-odds-01hj78qxw2t6

 

Good write-up on the shift. “Pro/ sharp money” causing it. 

hmmm. So we all have to wonder... What exactly do the pro bettors know, that we don't know?

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

7 minutes ago, 1959Colts said:

hmmm. So we all have to wonder... What exactly do the pro bettors know, that we don't know?

Everyone is healthy. They know nothing.

[ColtStrong2013]

1 minute ago, 1959Colts said:

hmmm. So we all have to wonder... What exactly do the pro bettors know, that we don't know?

Opportunities. 
 

We didn’t fare well on our last road trip. They saw a 2 point spread and decided to hammer their bets on the falcons either winning or losing by a point. Opening line was 1, which means that some of those sharp bettors likely took the colts early on which pushed it to 2 before more of them went the other way. 
 

Understand that the ones that figured this stuff out can be viewed by one sports book as a “pro or sharp” bettor, while another might view the same person as a giant cash flowing loser. I know someone that bets large amounts of money, on one site they generally lose big, and get comped for all sorts of events, rooms, etc. The other sites, they win big. They utilize the various ones to make repeated bets as part of a hedging strategy that increases their odds of winning, and winning big. 

[dw49]

49 minutes ago, 1959Colts said:

hmmm. So we all have to wonder... What exactly do the pro bettors know, that we don't know?

 

My son plays poker for a living and he has some friends that are associated with some huge betters. They have some incredibly smart people that find the "bad lines." Bottom line is these betters do in fact win. The biggest challenge they have is finding books that don't quickly change their lines when one of these games is "identified." One of the things they do is to "recruit" people who are familiar with bookies and pay them a nice commission to get some bets down from the bookies that are not too sharp and don't stay on top of changing their lines. Not an easy get as after a few weeks of getting smashed , these bookies will stop taking the action. I think we have seen the smart money go against the Colts 3 weeks in a row. Let's hope they go 1 and 2. 

[1959Colts]

 

[DougDew]

2 hours ago, 1959Colts said:

hmmm. So we all have to wonder... What exactly do the pro bettors know, that we don't know?

That the Colts will be stuck to one dimensional between the OTs running again with JT back.  Well, some of us know that.

[1959Colts]

I think.the Falcons, along with running the football, will target their tight ends. This always seems to be an area where our defense struggles. Cannot allow Heinike to keep converting on 3rd downs. Must stop Atlanta from orchestrating long, time consuming, drives.

 

I also hope Steichen, to start the game, does not come out  passing on nearly every down. establish the run early, don't wait till the 2nd half to run it.

[compuls1v3]

5 hours ago, 1959Colts said:

I think.the Falcons, along with running the football, will target their tight ends. This always seems to be an area where our defense struggles. Cannot allow Heinike to keep converting on 3rd downs. Must stop Atlanta from orchestrating long, time consuming, drives.

 

I also hope Steichen, to start the game, does not come out  passing on nearly every down. establish the run early, don't wait till the 2nd half to run it.

I like the plan about running.  I'm still waiting for that first play, play action pass though!!

[Dunk]

3 hours ago, compuls1v3 said:

I like the plan about running.  I'm still waiting for that first play, play action pass though!!

Can't remember the game, but the one time I remember Gardner did a great job of selling it.

[compuls1v3]

1 hour ago, Dunk said:

Can't remember the game, but the one time I remember Gardner did a great job of selling it.

I think it was the game both Pierce and Pittman were over 100 yards, or near it.  Was that vs. Tennessee?

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Is this for an extra lineman in the run game. Doesn’t make much sense.

 

 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Dont understand either of these. Does Ethan play special teams? Looks like Ferrara was elevated last week too. So no concern there with Pittman.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Maybe Jared is going to be fullback goal line stuff. Freeland hasn’t done anything to get benched.

[1959Colts]

16 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Dont understand either of these. Does Ethan play special teams? Looks like Ferrara was elevated last week too. So no concern there with Pittman.

With Braden Smith and McKenzie out, it makes sense to have the depth at both positions

[MB-ColtsFan]

1 hour ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Is this for an extra lineman in the run game. Doesn’t make much sense.

 

 

Maybe they just want to get him some real reps in case he really is needed in the future.  He's been away from the game for a long bit of time.  I would rather him shake off the rust slowly rather than just throw him in cold.  Just my .02.

[richard pallo]

58 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Maybe Jared is going to be fullback goal line stuff. Freeland hasn’t done anything to get benched.

Freeland is a rookie playing below average at tackle for the Colts.  If we make it to the playoffs I would much rather have Veldheer backing up Smith.  Assuming he s game fit and in shape he gives us a much better chance at success.  There is no substitute for experience.  I hope he gets in tomorrow just to see how he looks. He hasn’t played in quite awhile so I would bet they want to see him play as well.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

1 minute ago, richard pallo said:

Freeland is a rookie playing below average at tackle for the Colts.  If we make it to the playoffs I would much rather have Veldheer backing up Smith.  Assuming he s game fit and in shape he gives us a much better chance at success.  There is no substitute for experience.  I hope he gets in tomorrow just to see how he looks. He hasn’t played in quite awhile so I would bet they want to see him play as well.

He has done nothing to get benched. Jared hasn’t played in 3 years. This is probably just insurance with smith out. Adds some depth.

[richard pallo]

2 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

He has done nothing to get benched. Jared hasn’t played in 3 years. This is probably just insurance with smith out. Adds some depth.

Freeland is ranked 76 out of 83 tackles.  Raiman and Smith are ranked 6th and 7th.  Huge difference.  Freeland is playing out of necessity.  Even after 3 years I would expect Jared to put Freeland on the bench.  He’s only 36.  If we make the playoffs we could face some serious ER’s.  It would be nice to have Jared on the bench assuming he still has it.

[Colts.sb41]

I wonder if Pittman will play. Does anyone know what he did to his shoulder?

[ShuteAt168]

Pittman out. Darn. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

crap 

 

 

[MB-ColtsFan]

1 minute ago, ShuteAt168 said:

Pittman out. Darn. 

Probably for the best, long term.

[OLD FAN MAN]

4 hours ago, richard pallo said:

Freeland is ranked 76 out of 83 tackles.  Raiman and Smith are ranked 6th and 7th.  Huge difference.  Freeland is playing out of necessity.  Even after 3 years I would expect Jared to put Freeland on the bench.  He’s only 36.  If we make the playoffs we could face some serious ER’s.  It would be nice to have Jared on the bench assuming he still has it.

was jared good when he last played

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Wrong thread 

[MB-ColtsFan]

Another nice toss.  He's looking really good today.  May be a week too late, but...

[Indyfan4life]

Pittman being out is a huge blow. Guessing Landry didn’t show enough or they thought Pittman was gonna be okay. So now it’s down to Pierce and Downs. Yeeesh. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Pitt will be a big loss but I see Minshew distributing the ball evenly and not worried short forcing it to Pitt. I think we will be ok.

[Indyfan4life]

1 minute ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Pitt will be a big loss but I see Minshew distributing the ball evenly and not worried short forcing it to Pitt. I think we will be ok.

Idk. Pittman was getting everything underneath. I suddenly don’t feel good about the game. 

[richard pallo]

21 minutes ago, OLD FAN MAN said:

was jared good when he last played

Yes.  He wasn’t a top 10 tackle but he was good especially in pass pro.  

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

6 minutes ago, Indyfan4life said:

Idk. Pittman was getting everything underneath. I suddenly don’t feel good about the game. 

Montgomery looked good. Right now I am not too worried. I trust Steichen.

[OLD FAN MAN]

7 minutes ago, Indyfan4life said:

Idk. Pittman was getting everything underneath. I suddenly don’t feel good about the game. 

tight end time

[ColtStrong2013]

That was the shift in the line, no doubt. It just moved another half point. 

 

we’ll see what Steichen and Minshew are made of. Good defense in Atlanta. Hopefully get the run game going early and utilize tight ends more. Need Pierce and Downs to play big. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

1 minute ago, ColtStrong2013 said:

That was the shift in the line, no doubt. It just moved another half point. 

 

we’ll see what Steichen and Minshew are made of. Good defense in Atlanta. Hopefully get the run game going early and utilize tight ends more. Need Pierce and Downs to play big. 

No it wasn’t