2023 Week#8 Saints @ Colts, Sunday, October 28, 2023, 1PM ET

[kymd82222]

Just now, Solid84 said:

Just seems like Steichen don't want to use them much.

There's only so many passes to go around.  We scored 20 points.  That's a lot.  So who cares whether the TEs or the WRs are the people getting the yards/points? Again, there's only so many passes to go around, and MPJ and Downs are having good games, as well as the RBs.  

[GoColts8818]

Just now, chad72 said:

Saints LBs play good coverage 

They are also blocking a lot.  On some of the big runs earlier you could see Taylor getting behind Olgetree.

[Solid84]

1 minute ago, colts89 said:

I think that pass was just as much on Minshew as it was Pierce, if not slightly more.

How, Pierce didn't follow through in his route? Minshew expected that. Had Pierce kept running that would've been a big play.

[IrsaysArmy]

4 minutes ago, chad72 said:

AP stopped running the route

Both of them stink

[GoColts8818]

2 minutes ago, colts89 said:

I think that pass was just as much on Minshew as it was Pierce, if not slightly more.

No, if Pierce keeps running his route that ball hits him stride and the Colts are leading at halftime.

[Solid84]

2 minutes ago, chad72 said:

Saints LBs play good coverage 

True, but it's been an issue for 3 weeks including this one. Across 3 TEs we get like 5 targets.

[NFLfan]

6 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Throw a pass like that to Downs, it is probably a TD because he catches it in stride. Down 21-20 at Half. Another one of these games, OH BOY!

 

Good game!

 

Other games

Houston 7, Carolina 6

Vikes 10, GB 3

Dallas 33, Rams 9

Jacksonville 9, Pitt 3

Jets 7, Giants 3

Tenn 14, Atlanta 3 Levis with 2TDs to D. Hopkins

Commanders 17, Eagles 10

Patriots 7, and Dolphins 17, Dolphins just fumbles it away beginning of 2nd half

 

[kymd82222]

Just now, IrsaysArmy said:

Both of them stink

That's irrelevant to the particular play we are talking about.  Whether you think Minshew stinks or not, that was not on him and was all Pierce's fault.  

[csmopar]

18 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

It’s a catch he got his hand under it.

Sure didn’t look like it to me, or the refs. I think they made the right call

[IndySouthsider]

1 minute ago, IrsaysArmy said:

Both of them stink

Most teams who have to go to backups do.

[RollerColt]

3 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Yeah. Not getting the complaints about the offense     20 pts on the first half is good.  

Very good. Winning football levels good. 
 

The Saints offense is no slouch though, but we’ve had chances to make stops…

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

I think its time to stop trying to make pierce happen. We reached our 20 pts lol. Blah blah 

[GoColts8818]

Just now, csmopar said:

Sure didn’t look like it to me, or the refs. I think they made the right call

The refs said call stands not confirmed.  That means there wasn’t enough evidence in their opinion so they leave as called on the field. Stop taking a victory lap.

[Solid84]

2 minutes ago, kymd82222 said:

There's only so many passes to go around.  We scored 20 points.  That's a lot.  So who cares whether the TEs or the WRs are the people getting the yards/points? Again, there's only so many passes to go around, and MPJ and Downs are having good games, as well as the RBs.  

I know we score, but when one of our WRs can't make a play to save his career maybe use one of our promising TEs every now and then?

 

I know they get a lot of blocking snaps, but break one off the line every now and then.

[OLD FAN MAN]

6 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

Offense, not too shabby. 20 points in the first half.

 

Defense? Missing Stewart and our starting CBs is showing. Inexperience is obvious. I’ve never loved Gus Bradley’s schemes. I think he’s gone at seasons end.

ballard likes the soft zone, he likes gus

[GoColts8818]

Just now, Solid84 said:

I know we score, but when one of our WRs can't make a play to save his career maybe use one of our promising TEs every now and then?

 

I know they get a lot of blocking snaps, but break one off the line every now and then.

They did on one play and Minshew overthrew him.  

[2006Coltsbestever]

6 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

I have seen so many people go well portage is only in his 3nd year. Well then how do you explain Downs being a rookie. You either have it or you don’t.

Pierce is actually only in year 2. Most of the time it takes a WR 2 or 3 seasons to get good. Reggie Wayne wasn't any good until season 3 and he had Peyton Manning.

[DougDew]

1 minute ago, RollerColt said:

Very good. Winning football levels good. 
 

The Saints offense is no slouch though, but we’ve had chances to make stops…

The saints are good team on both sides of the ball

[OLD FAN MAN]

Just now, OLD FAN MAN said:

ballard likes the soft zone, he likes gus

ballard just didnt get gus elite talent

[cdgacoltsfan]

2 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

Good game!

 

Other games

Houston 7, Carolina 6

Vikes 10, GB 3

Dallas 33, Rams 9

Jacksonville 9, Pitt 3

Jets 7, Giants 3

Tenn 14, Atlanta 3 Levis with 2TDs to D. Hopkins

 

Funny..the only detail you gave was Levis...I sense a motive? Maybe trolling?

[RollerColt]

1 minute ago, OLD FAN MAN said:

ballard likes the soft zone, he likes gus

Ballard always visioned having another legion of boom. 

[AKB]

Just now, OLD FAN MAN said:

ballard just didnt get gus elite talent

Leonard was elite

Buckner is elite

Grover is elite

Kenny Moore is playing as good as any other slot corner.

 

but the defense has other holes that are gaping. 

[Lancer1]

24 minutes ago, Dingus McGirt said:

Wasn’t it just 17-3 Colts?

It was 17-7 then the Saints scored 2 touchdowns to take the lead but we kicked a field goal to shrink their lead to 1.

 

The radio announcers are saying that Gardner Minshew has never beaten the Saints, but I think that changes today!

[AKB]

[RollerColt]

Just now, cdgacoltsfan said:

Funny..the only detail you gave was Levis...I sense a motive? Maybe trolling?

Mainly because someone was making a claim earlier on here that Levis would struggle this weekend because he has a bad supporting cast in the Titans…

 

You know… Henry and Hopkins are a bad supporting cast…

[GoColts8818]

2 minutes ago, AKB said:

Leonard was elite

Buckner is elite

Grover is elite

Kenny Moore is playing as good as any other slot corner.

 

but the defense has other holes that are gaping. 

Franklin is elite too.  They don’t have a star pass rusher and it shows.  Add in injuries to your top two corners and Grover’s suspension and this is what you get.

 

Worth mentioning as well two of the guys we listed as elite aren’t playing right now and another one is still trying to work back from injury.  So it’s Buckner and Moore and a bunch of guys.

[Solid84]

1 minute ago, GoColts8818 said:

They did on one play and Minshew overthrew him.  

Yeah to Ogletree.

 

TE targets.

 

Week 5 - 6

Week 6 - 4

Week 7 - 2

Week 8 one so far...

 

For a team drafting athletic TEs we sure don't use them much in the passing game.

[NFLfan]

8 minutes ago, cdgacoltsfan said:

Funny..the only detail you gave was Levis...I sense a motive? Maybe trolling?

 

No, not at all. Earlier this week some of us were commenting that Levis will start his first game. So, I mentioned how he is doing.

 

I was also going to write that Davito was quarterbacking for the Giants but I did not think anyone would know him

[2006Coltsbestever]

Compared to last week, I have no gripes about the REFS, they are ahead 21-20 fair and square. I did think that was a catch by Pierce but missed calls like don't bother me near as bad as a team getting cheated at the end of a game.

[Shive]

2 minutes ago, colts89 said:

I think that pass was just as much on Minshew as it was Pierce, if not slightly more.

Absolutely not. Minshew threw the ball based on how fast Pierce was running and as soon as the ball left his hand, Pierce throttled down, which completely threw off the timing.

 

2 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

I have seen so many people go well portage is only in his 3nd year. Well then how do you explain Downs being a rookie. You either have it or you don’t.

Pierce is in his 2nd year. He was drafted in 2022.

 

Pierce came in as deep ball, contested catch WR that ran a limited route tree and needed a lot of work on the technical side. One of my favorite things about Downs as a prospect was how advanced he was technically and as a route runner. They just came in with varying strengths and weaknesses, but Downs is just the more technically sound WR and Pierce was way more raw when we drafted him.

 

That said, I haven't been impressed with Pierce or his development so far.

[Solid84]

1 minute ago, GoColts8818 said:

Franklin is elite too.  They don’t have a star pass rusher and it shows.  Add in injuries to your top two corners and Grover’s suspension and this is what you get.

Franklin has been decidedly average this season. Lots of tackles, but also plenty of missed tackles. He's a liability in coverage.

[bluephantom87]

23 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

You can’t have CB kept going down with injuries and expect bad things not to happen. The mistake Ballard made was not going and finding anyone when Rodgers got suspended.

 

So true but Gus has to help them by applying SOME pressure....  You can't give free reign off the line to opposing receivers with 10 yd cushions AND allow the qb to play pitch and catch!!!!

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Taylor had 94 yards first half I don’t know what the heck happened.

[AKB]

Just now, Solid84 said:

Franklin has been decidedly average this season. Lots of tackles, but also plenty of missed tackles. He's a liability in coverage.

he's an elite tackler, physical backer, I wouldn't put him up there with what Leonard was doing though, because you had all the turnovers plus tackles

[cdgacoltsfan]

2 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

No, not at all. Some of us earlier this week were commenting that Levis will start his first game. So, I mentioned how he is doing.

 

I was also going to write that Davito was quarterbacking for the Giants but I did not think anyone would know him

Yep...sure. 

[GoColts8818]

much better first snap.  Gotta do better vs the Saints line to have a chance.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

6 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Pierce is actually only in year 2. Most of the time it takes a WR 2 or 3 seasons to get good. Reggie Wayne wasn't any good until season 3 and he had Peyton Manning.

I meant 2nd but point still stands.

[IndySouthsider]

7 minutes ago, OLD FAN MAN said:

ballard likes the soft zone, he likes gus

I don’t think that’s Ballards call. Shane does

[Solid84]

Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Taylor had 94 yards first half I don’t know what the heck happened.

The Saints stacked the box.

[w87r]

2 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

Franklin is elite too.  They don’t have a star pass rusher and it shows.  Add in injuries to your top two corners and Grover’s suspension and this is what you get.

Franklin is not elite. He's a good tackler.

 

He grades out 61/83 LB's currently.