BlueShoe Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 That is a surprise. I thought he would do much better. Davenport 3-Cones at 7.2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Yah, this is not great. Damn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 His short shuttle is 4.41... which is OK, but not great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueShoe Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 Hubbard with a 6.84, 3-Cone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Disappointing..... It's almost as if he heard about BOTT's comment about tanking the rest of the events to scare off the Giants and Browns... Way to take one for the team, BC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPStack Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 I haven’t researched this, but if memory serves me correctly Terrell Suggs didn’t test well at the combine years back. With that being said, the rest is history. I see similarities in Suggs and Chubb. Really not to worried due to the fact Chubb has a non stop motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcolts Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Landry > Chubb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shive Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Qcolts said: Landry > Chubb As a pure pass rusher, sure, but as a 3 down DE, not a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcolts Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Just now, Shive said: As a pure pass rusher, sure, but as a 3 down DE, not a chance. We need a pure pass rusher more than we need a run stopping defensive end. You can’t teach Landry’s bend and get off. You can teach Chubb’s hand technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJpalmbeacher2 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Darn Chubb! The 3 cone & short shuttle bit Disappointing! Those were drills we wanted you to score well in incase we Draft you which I think we will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Qcolts said: We need a pure pass rusher more than we need a run stopping defensive end. You can’t teach Landry’s bend and get off. You can teach Chubb’s hand technique. Lots of the smaller pass rushers have been busts or disappointments the last few yrs. I know, because I loved most of them lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueShoe Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Qcolts said: We need a pure pass rusher more than we need a run stopping defensive end. You can’t teach Landry’s bend and get off. You can teach Chubb’s hand technique. And that is exactly the point. You hit it right on the head. We could literally trade back into the first round and get a better Edge prospect than Chubb. I see that as a real possibility now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 OMG unbelievable. All that over running around 3 cones. Just stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueShoe Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said: Darn Chubb! The 3 cone & short shuttle bit Disappointing! Those were drills we wanted you to score well in incase we Draft you which I think we will. Draft Chubb at 3? i don't see it. I see Ballard as a Bill Polian clone. No way Polian would touch an Edge player who ran a 7.37 3-cone at No. 3 overall. Not a chance in hell Polian would do that. Could I be wrong about Chris Ballard? Sure. But I don't think I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueShoe Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 Just now, krunk said: OMG unbelievable. All that over running around 3 cones. Just stop It is a big deal man. If he had ran a 7.1 then it's an easier choice, but 7.37 is really bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 1 minute ago, BlueShoe said: It is a big deal man. If he had ran a 7.1 then it's an easier choice, but 7.37 is really bad. its not a big deal. So that just erases all the film and everything? That's ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defjamz26 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 1 minute ago, krunk said: OMG unbelievable. All that over running around 3 cones. Just stop Agreed. He tests better than everyone thought in the 40 but everyone is hung up on the 3 cone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaytonColt Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, BlueShoe said: It is a big deal man. If he had ran a 7.1 then it's an easier choice, but 7.37 is really bad. It's one disappointing event. It's doesn't negate the rest of the combine and - more importantly - his actual film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueShoe Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 Just now, krunk said: its not a big deal. So that just erases all the film and everything? That's ridiculous It is a number that translates to the NFL. It is a proven predictor of how Edge players will translate to the NFL. It is always the case? No. But most of the time it is. I doubt Bradley Chubb is going in the top 5 because of this drill. There is a scenario in my mind where a team might be willing to take Edmunds in front of him now. Maybe even Davenport is the first Edge player off the board. This is really bad for Bradley Chubb. It sucks for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheezyColt Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Lol, we go from his 40 time where Twitter blows up saying he could end up a #2 overall, to his 3 cone time where now people here are saying he's no good now. Busy day in crazytown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJpalmbeacher2 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, BlueShoe said: Draft Chubb at 3? i don;t see it. I see Ballard as a Bill Polian clone. No way Polian would touch an Edge player who ran a 7.37 3-cone at No. 3 overall. Not a chance in hell Polian would do that. Could I be wrong about Chris Ballard? Sure. But I don't think I am. It's what I've been saying. Chubb's floor is high. He will be a good, solid all around DE. But the ceiling is questionable as to him being a very good pass rusher. When it comes to pass rushing, he's no Freeny, Mathis, von Miller. I'd also rather trade down than draft him at #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Defjamz26 said: Agreed. He tests better than everyone thought in the 40 but everyone is hung up on the 3 cone. Who runs around 3 cones unimpeded in a football game anywhere? No way in the hell do I let that make my determination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueShoe Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 1 minute ago, CheezyColt said: Lol, we go from his 40 time where Twitter blows up saying he could end up a #2 overall, to his 3 cone time where now people here are saying he's no good now. Busy day in crazytown. Welcome to the NFL Combine. It is where the truths come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, BlueShoe said: It is a number that translates to the NFL. It is a proven predictor of how Edge players will translate to the NFL. It is always the case? No. But most of the time it is. I doubt Bradley Chubb is going in the top 5 because of this drill. There is a scenario in my mind where a team might be willing to take Edmunds in front of him now. Maybe even Davenport is the first Edge player off the board. This is really bad for Bradley Chubb. It sucks for him. Blue that's flat out ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueShoe Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 Just now, LJpalmbeacher2 said: It's what I've been saying. Chubb's floor is high. He will be a good, solid all around DE. But the ceiling is questionable as to him being a very good pass rusher. When it comes to pass rushing, he's no Freeny, Mathis, von Miller. I'd also rather trade down than draft him at #3. Yeah. You are absolutely correct. That is why we have these drills at the combine. It helps tell the story. In my mind, there is no scenario where we take Chubb at No. 3 overall now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Wont have an effect on anything I guarantee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 1 minute ago, krunk said: Blue that's flat out ridiculous If you look at the top pass rushers they do tend to score well in the 3 cone and SS. It matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueShoe Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 Just now, krunk said: Blue that's flat out ridiculous Time has shaped the way front offices think about this. In today's NFL teams cannot afford to use a No. 3 overall pick on a great run defender. This is a passing league and if you take a defender in the top 5, then he better be able to be destructive in the passing game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJpalmbeacher2 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 1 minute ago, BlueShoe said: Yeah. You are absolutely correct. That is why we have these drills at the combine. It helps tell the story. In my mind, there is no scenario where we take Chubb at No. 3 overall now. If we trade down to #6 woth Jets and 2 additional 2nd rd. picks. Would you get him at #6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueShoe Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 1 minute ago, krunk said: Wont have an effect on anything I guarantee. Sorry brother. I love your passion and your football knowledge. I think this stings right now, but in time it will make more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy Denton Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 I think GM'S will pay more attention to the film than the combine results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueShoe Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said: If we trade down to #6 woth Jets and 2 additional 2nd rd. picks. Would you get him at #6? I think there is a VERY good chance that Chubb will be there at No. 6 now. He might fall further than that. I would take Nelson over him in a heartbeat at No. 6 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueShoe Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 Just now, Tracy Denton said: I think GM'S will pay more attention to the film than the combine results. The numbers say they don't. Not when it comes to bending around the Edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 14 minutes ago, BlueShoe said: Draft Chubb at 3? i don't see it. I see Ballard as a Bill Polian clone. No way Polian would touch an Edge player who ran a 7.37 3-cone at No. 3 overall. Not a chance in hell Polian would do that. Could I be wrong about Chris Ballard? Sure. But I don't think I am. How is Ballard a Polian clone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 The same guy that you saw out producing all these others with a so called higher 3 cone they are now better. I guarantee you nothing will change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueShoe Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 1 minute ago, BOTT said: How is Ballard a Polian clone? He thinks a lot like him. They have the same kind of philosophies to build a football team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, BlueShoe said: Sorry brother. I love your passion and your football knowledge. I think this stings right now, but in time it will make more sense. Most certainly wont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJpalmbeacher2 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 1 minute ago, BOTT said: How is Ballard a Polian clone? I think Ballard dresses cooler than polian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Just now, BlueShoe said: He thinks a lot like him. They have the same kind of philosophies to build a football team. Not sure about that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueShoe Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 Just now, krunk said: The same guy that you saw out producing all these others with a so called higher 3 cone they are now better. I guarantee you nothing will change. These drills takes everything out of the equation. Such as the talent level they played against and the type talent they played with. This 3-Cone just changed Chubb's life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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