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Bradley Chubb 3-Cones at 7.37

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That is a surprise. I thought he would do much better. 

 

Davenport 3-Cones at 7.2.

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Disappointing.....

 

It's almost as if he heard about BOTT's comment about tanking the rest of the events to scare off the Giants and Browns...

 

Way to take one for the team, BC!    :thmup:

 

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I haven’t researched this, but if memory serves me correctly Terrell Suggs didn’t test well at the combine years back. With that being said, the rest is history. I see similarities in Suggs and Chubb. Really not to worried due to the fact Chubb has a non stop motor.

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1 minute ago, Qcolts said:

Landry > Chubb 

As a pure pass rusher, sure, but as a 3 down DE, not a chance.

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Just now, Shive said:

As a pure pass rusher, sure, but as a 3 down DE, not a chance.

 

We need a pure pass rusher more than we need a run stopping defensive end. You can’t teach Landry’s bend and get off. You can teach Chubb’s hand technique. 

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Darn Chubb!

The 3 cone & short shuttle bit Disappointing! Those were drills we wanted you to score well in incase we Draft you which I think we will.

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2 minutes ago, Qcolts said:

 

 

We need a pure pass rusher more than we need a run stopping defensive end. You can’t teach Landry’s bend and get off. You can teach Chubb’s hand technique. 

Lots of the smaller pass rushers have been busts or disappointments the last few yrs.  I know, because I loved most of them lol

 

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5 minutes ago, Qcolts said:

 

 

We need a pure pass rusher more than we need a run stopping defensive end. You can’t teach Landry’s bend and get off. You can teach Chubb’s hand technique. 

 

And that is exactly the point. 

 

You hit it right on the head. 

 

We could literally trade back into the first round and get a better Edge prospect than Chubb. I see that as a real possibility now. 

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OMG unbelievable. All that over running around 3 cones. Just stop

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7 minutes ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said:

Darn Chubb!

The 3 cone & short shuttle bit Disappointing! Those were drills we wanted you to score well in incase we Draft you which I think we will.

 

Draft Chubb at 3?

 

i don't see it. I see Ballard as a Bill Polian clone. No way Polian would touch an Edge player who ran a 7.37 3-cone at No. 3 overall. Not a chance in hell Polian would do that. Could I be wrong about Chris Ballard? Sure. But I don't think I am. 

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Just now, krunk said:

OMG unbelievable. All that over running around 3 cones. Just stop

 

It is a big deal man. If he had ran a 7.1 then it's an easier choice, but 7.37 is really bad. 

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1 minute ago, BlueShoe said:

 

It is a big deal man. If he had ran a 7.1 then it's an easier choice, but 7.37 is really bad. 

its not a big deal. So that just erases all the film and everything? That's ridiculous

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1 minute ago, krunk said:

OMG unbelievable. All that over running around 3 cones. Just stop

Agreed. He tests better than everyone thought in the 40 but everyone is hung up on the 3 cone. 

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2 minutes ago, BlueShoe said:

 

It is a big deal man. If he had ran a 7.1 then it's an easier choice, but 7.37 is really bad. 

It's one disappointing event. It's doesn't negate the rest of the combine and - more importantly - his actual film.

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Just now, krunk said:

its not a big deal. So that just erases all the film and everything? That's ridiculous

 

It is a number that translates to the NFL. It is a proven predictor of how Edge players will translate to the NFL. 

 

It is always the case? No. But most of the time it is. 

 

I doubt Bradley Chubb is going in the top 5 because of this drill. There is a scenario in my mind where a team might be willing to take Edmunds in front of him now. Maybe even Davenport is the first Edge player off the board. 

 

This is really bad for Bradley Chubb. It sucks for him. 

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Lol, we go from his 40 time where Twitter blows up saying he could end up a #2 overall, to his 3 cone time where now people here are saying he's no good now. Busy day in crazytown.

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2 minutes ago, BlueShoe said:

 

Draft Chubb at 3?

 

i don;t see it. I see Ballard as a Bill Polian clone. No way Polian would touch an Edge player who ran a 7.37 3-cone at No. 3 overall. Not a chance in hell Polian would do that. Could I be wrong about Chris Ballard? Sure. But I don't think I am. 

 

It's what I've been saying. Chubb's floor is high. He will be a good, solid all around DE. But the ceiling is questionable as to him being a very good pass rusher. When it comes to pass rushing, he's no Freeny, Mathis, von Miller. 

I'd also rather trade down than draft him at #3.

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1 minute ago, Defjamz26 said:

Agreed. He tests better than everyone thought in the 40 but everyone is hung up on the 3 cone. 

Who runs around 3 cones unimpeded in a football game anywhere? No way in the hell do I let that make my determination.

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1 minute ago, CheezyColt said:

Lol, we go from his 40 time where Twitter blows up saying he could end up a #2 overall, to his 3 cone time where now people here are saying he's no good now. Busy day in crazytown.

 

Welcome to the NFL Combine. It is where the truths come out. :D 

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2 minutes ago, BlueShoe said:

 

It is a number that translates to the NFL. It is a proven predictor of how Edge players will translate to the NFL. 

 

It is always the case? No. But most of the time it is. 

 

I doubt Bradley Chubb is going in the top 5 because of this drill. There is a scenario in my mind where a team might be willing to take Edmunds in front of him now. Maybe even Davenport is the first Edge player off the board. 

 

This is really bad for Bradley Chubb. It sucks for him. 

Blue that's flat out ridiculous

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Just now, LJpalmbeacher2 said:

 

It's what I've been saying. Chubb's floor is high. He will be a good, solid all around DE. But the ceiling is questionable as to him being a very good pass rusher. When it comes to pass rushing, he's no Freeny, Mathis, von Miller. 

I'd also rather trade down than draft him at #3.

 

Yeah. You are absolutely correct. That is why we have these drills at the combine. It helps tell the story. 

 

In my mind, there is no scenario where we take Chubb at No. 3 overall now. 

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1 minute ago, krunk said:

Blue that's flat out ridiculous

If you look at the top pass rushers they do tend to score well in the 3 cone and SS. It matters.

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Just now, krunk said:

Blue that's flat out ridiculous

 

Time has shaped the way front offices think about this. In today's NFL teams cannot afford to use a No. 3 overall pick on a great run defender. This is a passing league and if you take a defender in the top 5, then he better be able to be destructive in the passing game. 

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1 minute ago, BlueShoe said:

 

Yeah. You are absolutely correct. That is why we have these drills at the combine. It helps tell the story. 

 

In my mind, there is no scenario where we take Chubb at No. 3 overall now. 

 

If we trade down to #6 woth Jets and 2 additional 2nd rd. picks. Would you get him at #6?

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1 minute ago, krunk said:

Wont have an effect on anything I guarantee.

 

Sorry brother. I love your passion and your football knowledge. 

 

I think this stings right now, but in time it will make more sense. :) 

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2 minutes ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said:

 

If we trade down to #6 woth Jets and 2 additional 2nd rd. picks. Would you get him at #6?

 

I think there is a VERY good chance that Chubb will be there at No. 6 now. He might fall further than that. 

 

I would take Nelson over him in a heartbeat at No. 6 though. 

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Just now, Tracy Denton said:

I think GM'S will pay more attention to the film than the combine results.

 

The numbers say they don't. Not when it comes to bending around the Edge. 

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14 minutes ago, BlueShoe said:

 

Draft Chubb at 3?

 

i don't see it. I see Ballard as a Bill Polian clone. No way Polian would touch an Edge player who ran a 7.37 3-cone at No. 3 overall. Not a chance in hell Polian would do that. Could I be wrong about Chris Ballard? Sure. But I don't think I am. 

How is Ballard a Polian clone?

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The same guy that you saw out producing all these others with a so called higher 3 cone they are now better. I guarantee you nothing will change.

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1 minute ago, BOTT said:

How is Ballard a Polian clone?

 

He thinks a lot like him. They have the same kind of philosophies to build a football team. 

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3 minutes ago, BlueShoe said:

 

Sorry brother. I love your passion and your football knowledge. 

 

I think this stings right now, but in time it will make more sense. :) 

Most certainly wont.

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Just now, BlueShoe said:

 

He thinks a lot like him. They have the same kind of philosophies to build a football team. 

Not sure about that one. 

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Just now, krunk said:

The same guy that you saw out producing all these others with a so called higher 3 cone they are now better. I guarantee you nothing will change.

 

These drills takes everything out of the equation. Such as the talent level they played against and the type talent they played with. 

 

This 3-Cone just changed Chubb's life. 

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