Is it just me

[danlhart87]

None of the edge rushers in this class I really care for. I know it's a HUGE need but I wouldn't lose any sleep if we passed on one first 2 rounds.

[Tmoney]

Might be just you, I like a lot of edge guys especially through rounds 1-2

[Indi Warrior]

To me, I only see 3 edge rushers worth taking in the first round (my opinion on Reddick could change and make that 4). One is going in the top 2 picks, one (Williams) is an absolute *, and Taco Charlton is a project well worth taking the gamble on.

[twfish]

Are you including myles garret on that out of curiosity?  I like Barnett but that's about it for day one. Tim Williams wouldn't be bad if it wasn't for his red flags

[danlhart87]

No I'm not including Garrett who I expect to an absolute stud in the league 

[BProland85]

15 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

None of the edge rushers in this class I really care for. I know it's a HUGE need but I wouldn't lose any sleep if we passed on one first 2 rounds.

 

I wont go as far as saying I don't like any as you have said, but I'm critical of the early round guys. All have their flaws outside of maybe Garrett and Solomon Thomas. 

[Andrew Luck fan club]

It's mostly just you. 

[funktacious2]

I have my guys I'm not sold on like Thomas or McKinley, but I definitely like some guys like Charlton, Williams, and Harris. But that's not saying I'd like all of them at pick 14/15, probably just Charlton, but Williams would be okay.

[richard pallo]

I want a three down player with our 1st. pick that starts.  I think those ER's that are will be gone when we pick.  So I hope he doesn't reach for one and really goes BPA.  I just saw a mock where Foster fell because of his injury.   I would feel better if he fell to us or one of the corners or RB's. .  Hopefully we grab Perry or Simon in FA. 

[Track Guy]

There's pretty good depth at the position on the plus side. Look at guys like Tarell Basham or Joe Mathis. No first round buzz, but they could be good NFL players. 

[Hoosiernsavga]

Garrett and Thomas both will be studs. But unfortunately i don't see many true pass rushers that "wow" you after that! 

[tvturner]

Garrett, Thomas surefire studs to me

Then Charlton, and Barnett I feel will do good.

Williams is a phenom at rushing the QB, but he's not an every down player, and can't do much more than rush

I like Joe Mathis late too

[masnerj]

I'm telling you guys this: whichever team drafts Barnett will get an absolute stud.

 

The guy isn't an athletic freak, we the fans know that, the teams know that, even HE knows that. But what he has done in the college game CANNOT be overlooked. The dude works his butt off on every single play, his motor is something that is ridiculous. Yea, he might not have the athleticism but its not like he is going to be subpar on that level compared to the average pass-rusher. You combine his "average" athleticism with sheer experience, hustle, and pass-rushing moves, and you get atleast a guy that can go after 10 sacks a year. 

[stitches]

It's just you I'm afraid. I'm plenty excited about the edge rushers. Especially if some of the ones projected in the late first fall to us in the second(Lawson?). I love Tim Williams in the first too(if he is cleared off the field). Takk is good, Barnett is good. Harris is good. I like this class overall.

[Smonroe]

9 hours ago, danlhart87 said:

None of the edge rushers in this class I really care for. I know it's a HUGE need but I wouldn't lose any sleep if we passed on one first 2 rounds.

 

No one is a sure thing.  Look at how many first round picks the Browns have missed on.  So while no top edge rusher may look like Von Miller right now you have to take that chance that the high rated guys will develop into someone like him instead of someone like Vernon Gholston.  

 

People like to say there's first round talent to be found in the later rounds.  Sure, Brady, Robert Mathis, and others prove that.  But the odds of finding them are immensely less than taking a guy who's been judged to be a first rounder before the draft.  

 

I can agree that we can't be sure any of those top guys will work out but I like their odds a lot better than trying to find that hidden gem later.  

[AZColt11]

Yeah there is no "sure thing".  Some guys will ultimately work out while others won't but to say "this guy is going to be a stud" I'm not sure is valid.  Ballard, as the GM, will have to do his homework and hope he picks the right guy, whomever and whatever position that may be.  I can say this though, we won't get any better as a team by NOT trying to bring someone in so you may as well do your diligence and take the best guy you feel will help you.  Lord knows that guy is not already on this roster!

[UKColt13]

It's difficult. Each one seems to have there own issues. Except for Garrett maybe. The only EDGE outside of Garrett that I really like as an immediate impact player is McKinley.

 

Barnett isn't a natural enough athlete to be an effective stand up rusher. He'll be good in a 4-3 though. I'm looking at you, Carolina!

 

Tim Williams because of the many, MANY red flags is possibly the most risky pick in the draft.

 

Taco is a potential based prospect. He has a high ceiling but he will need time & help to get there.

 

If McKinley is there at #14 you take him and be glad about it imo. But aside from Garrett. There are no certainties here. I think McKinley and Garrett get closest though.

[AZColt11]

2 minutes ago, UKColt13 said:

It's difficult. Each one seems to have there own issues. Except for Garrett maybe. The only EDGE outside of Garrett that I really like as an immediate impact player is McKinley.

 

Barnett isn't a natural enough athlete to be an effective stand up rusher. He'll be good in a 4-3 though. I'm looking at you, Carolina!

 

Tim Williams because of the many, MANY red flags is possibly the most risky pick in the draft.

 

Taco is a potential based prospect. He has a high ceiling but he will need time & help to get there.

 

If McKinley is there at #14 you take him and be glad about it imo. But aside from Garrett. There are no certainties here. I think McKinley and Garrett get closest though.

I think even Garrett comes with some injury concerns.  You have to do your due diligence at the combine if you're Cleveland.  But I would say, barring injury, Garrett is the best prospect in this class for sure.

[UKColt13]

4 minutes ago, AZColt11 said:

I think even Garrett comes with some injury concerns.  You have to do your due diligence at the combine if you're Cleveland.  But I would say, barring injury, Garrett is the best prospect in this class for sure.

 

Oh for sure. IMO if Cleveland don't take him then they deserve to keep sucking. He does have an injury history but he is a terror when healthy.

[pgt_rob]

10 hours ago, danlhart87 said:

None of the edge rushers in this class I really care for. I know it's a HUGE need but I wouldn't lose any sleep if we passed on one first 2 rounds.

 

I'm kinda with you on this. I've watched a lot of tape on the top 1st round prospects and none of them really scream at me besides Garrett and Solomon Thomas. 

[DougDew]

We picked a sure thing last year at pick 18.  Even though it was a C, it was a solid pick.  TRich and Werner...maybe Dorsett although he was way down at #30...shows that you need to get a contributing player when you pick high in the first.  It can't be wasted on a reach.

 

I think the forum needs to start analyzing CBs.

[coltsfanatic24]

It's better value drafting a pass rusher in the 2nd round. In the first round I prefer Sidney Jones CB.