Maybe The Colts Do Get Injured More Often

[21isSuperman]

http://www.nfl.com/features/freakonomics/episode-6?module=HP11_cp

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If you click on the part where it says "click to scroll" and look at the most adjusted games lost by a team in the last 3 years, Indy has the most. The formula for adjusted games lost is also given. Some people want to say that other teams are just as injured as we are, but this shows that it's not true. We have the highest adjusted games lost out of any team in the last 3 years

[Fx Stryker]

They have the play from the Redskins game in the video. When I seen it my heart stopped. Then and now.

[21isSuperman]

They have the play from the Redskins game in the video. When I seen it my heart stopped. Then and now.

I kept hearing about the "Redskins play" but couldn't remember what happened. When I saw it, my jaw dropped. Peyton looked like he was in a C, it looked painful as heck.

[deedub75]

I hope the powers that be watched this video. It seems like everyone knew that we wouldn't win without Peyton except for everyone within the Colts organization. Knowing the FO, they will probably draft luck and build the team totally around him so we'll be in the same boat a few years down the road.

[Fx Stryker]

I kept hearing about the "Redskins play" but couldn't remember what happened. When I saw it, my jaw dropped. Peyton looked like he was in a C, it looked painful as heck.

It was terrible, those seconds he laid on the field I though it was over.

[mammo]

darn that looks brutal, no wonder his disk is bulging, squeezed the darn thing like gummy bear, its got to pop out somewhere. he would have known straight away too

[shaunzo]

Yeah I was actually at that game, it was brutal. He came back and scorched them though, for what it's worth.

[mammo]

that woulda been wicked. best of the best

[Fatboyslim11]

http://www.nfl.com/f...?module=HP11_cp

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If you click on the part where it says "click to scroll" and look at the most adjusted games lost by a team in the last 3 years, Indy has the most. The formula for adjusted games lost is also given. Some people want to say that other teams are just as injured as we are, but this shows that it's not true. We have the highest adjusted games lost out of any team in the last 3 years

Great find. I always wondered what was the specific hit on Manning that started the neck problems and this video clearly showed how it started. Ouch - that was a brutal rip to the head by the Redskins defense.

[Indianapolis-Colts-Fan]

I was ticked in the redskins game that there was no late hit or roughing the passer flag. It was ridiculous how the refs just watched as they ripped Peytons helmet off.

[oldunclemark]

The Packers had more players on IR last year than the Colts..

who is probable and doubtful is NOT a good barometer of injury..

The Colts dont get injured more than everybody else...there's no logic there.....

We know why we're 0-13

[21isSuperman]

The Packers had more players on IR last year than the Colts..

who is probable and doubtful is NOT a good barometer of injury..

The Colts dont get injured more than everybody else...there's no logic there.....

We know why we're 0-13

Doesn't it still make some sense though? Sure, a guy who is listed as questionable or doubtful may still play, but his performance will likely be compromised

[oldunclemark]

Doesn't it still make some sense though? Sure, a guy who is listed as questionable or doubtful may still play, but his performance will likely be compromised

Most times....but sometimes its misleading..

......................remember the year Belichek said Brady was probably all season? and he played every game

And Manning has been out all year but not IR..

Like Bob Sanders was...

Rothislberger has a broken toe, right?...and he's not listed on the injury report

It skews the numbers.......

[Andy]

They are the most injury prone team in the last 5 years... maybe more

[Flash7]

The Packers had more players on IR last year than the Colts..

who is probable and doubtful is NOT a good barometer of injury..

The Colts dont get injured more than everybody else...there's no logic there.....

We know why we're 0-13

Well, you would have to assume that other teams also list players as probable and doubtful similarly to the way we do. This means that a player has been hurt and it is questionable whether they will play of not. As Supermanis21 has stated, this will effect the way these players play, and will effect the performance of a team.

The Packers did have a lot of injuries last year, but that was one year. The numbers show that we consistently have more injuries over a span of several years.

By your assumption, if we have more players listed as probable or doubtful and it does not mean that we have more injuries, then it would mean that we are improperly listing players as "probable" or "doubtful".

[supremecoltsfan300]

I' definitely say we get injured more than any other team. Most of the busts we have are because of injuries. Gonzo has a lot of talent but cannot stay healthy at all. addia could be very good but he's been injury prone the last few years. sanders was a stud but injury was his middle name. collie clark and garcon have all missed a good amount of time the last two years. Our secondary is in shambles and brackett has been injued too. even our o-line is depleted. the only position you could always count on was qb before this year. every year we suffer major injuries.

[oldunclemark]

Well, you would have to assume that other teams also list players as probable and doubtful similarly to the way we do. This means that a player has been hurt and it is questionable whether they will play of not. As Supermanis21 has stated, this will effect the way these players play, and will effect the performance of a team.

The Packers did have a lot of injuries last year, but that was one year. The numbers show that we consistently have more injuries over a span of several years.

By your assumption, if we have more players listed as probable or doubtful and it does not mean that we have more injuries, then it would mean that we are improperly listing players as "probable" or "doubtful".

Yes....some are more honest than others...NE is notorious for lying on the injury report..

There's not trying to give anything away

Look at Houston,..decimated offensively by injuries..

the Bears have been hit hard...

remember 2 years ago how Dwight Freeney hobbled into the Super Bowl.

Unless I'm mistaken.,,he's played EVERY SINGLE game since then..

There's no pattern of injuries..and it has nothing to do with how hard you work (i.e. Bob Sanders)

any in time frame (5 years...3 years) you select the results will will change if you change the time frame..

...we're just trying to look for someone or something to blame....I understand it..because we're 0-13

[Flash7]

Yes....some are more honest than others...NE is notorious for lying on the injury report..

There's not trying to give anything away

Look at Houston,..decimated offensively by injuries..

the Bears have been hit hard...

remember 2 years ago how Dwight Freeney hobbled into the Super Bowl.

Unless I'm mistaken.,,he's played EVERY SINGLE game since then..

There's no pattern of injuries..and it has nothing to do with how hard you work (i.e. Bob Sanders)

any in time frame (5 years...3 years) you select the results will will change if you change the time frame..

...we're just trying to look for someone or something to blame....I understand it..because we're 0-13

There are 32 teams in the NFL. Logically, some team will have to have the least amount of injuries and some team will have to have the most amount of injuries. It's illogical to think that every team has the exact same amount of injuries over a span of 5 years. What this report shows is that the Colts are the team with the most amount of injuries over that span of time.

[BIGugly]

One of the initial comments made here about Dungy when it was announced he was to be Colts head coach was that he was a "player's coach". What does that mean to you?

[bayone]

http://www.nfl.com/f...?module=HP11_cp

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If you click on the part where it says "click to scroll" and look at the most adjusted games lost by a team in the last 3 years, Indy has the most. The formula for adjusted games lost is also given. Some people want to say that other teams are just as injured as we are, but this shows that it's not true. We have the highest adjusted games lost out of any team in the last 3 years

I have read similar metrics from other sources how we are most injured , sorry no link

[21isSuperman]

One of the initial comments made here about Dungy when it was announced he was to be Colts head coach was that he was a "player's coach". What does that mean to you?

From my understanding, it means he can really relate to players. The players don't see him as just a coach, they see him as their peer/friend, they see the whole man instead of just the coach. However, the problem arises when a coach is too much of a player's coach and the players don't take him seriously. Or they slack because the coach is their friend and won't discipline them

[BIGugly]

From my understanding, it means he can really relate to players. The players don't see him as just a coach, they see him as their peer/friend, they see the whole man instead of just the coach. However, the problem arises when a coach is too much of a player's coach and the players don't take him seriously. Or they slack because the coach is their friend and won't discipline them

Wonder if it could also mean..."Coach, I broke my pinkie and in hurts when I go into my stance, can I go on IR, Please?"

[21isSuperman]

Wonder if it could also mean..."Coach, I broke my pinkie and in hurts when I go into my stance, can I go on IR, Please?"

The first thing I thought of when I read this was Tony Romo

[Superman]

They are the most injury prone team in the last 5 years... maybe more

We had very few injuries in 2009. We had a couple of high profile injuries, the yearly Bob Sanders and Anthony Gonzalez injuries, but other than that, we stayed relatively healthy. 2008 started bad, but wasn't that terrible overall. 2007 started really well, and ended bad (Freeney and Mathis both out by the end of the year, but Sanders played 15 games). I don't think this injury issue goes back five years. It's been really bad this year and last, but as chronic as you make it seem.

[BIGugly]

We had very few injuries in 2009. We had a couple of high profile injuries, the yearly Bob Sanders and Anthony Gonzalez injuries, but other than that, we stayed relatively healthy. 2008 started bad, but wasn't that terrible overall. 2007 started really well, and ended bad (Freeney and Mathis both out by the end of the year, but Sanders played 15 games). I don't think this injury issue goes back five years. It's been really bad this year and last, but as chronic as you make it seem.

Ya think Calwell's attitude toward resting injured players may have an influence here? Wonder what it looked like a Wake Forrest?

[Coltsman1788]

I kept hearing about the "Redskins play" but couldn't remember what happened. When I saw it, my jaw dropped. Peyton looked like he was in a C, it looked painful as heck.

I remember it vividly. I thought they were going to find Manning's head rolling around the ground inside that helmet.

[Coltsman1788]

Our injury rate has escalated to ridiculous proportions ever since Super Bowl XLIV. Someone forgot to tell those Saints fans that they can stop sticking pins in Colts dolls.

[colts_mp]

We just have too many soft players on this finesse team. We need to go in the smashmouth direction. Or maybe we're just very unlucky.

[21isSuperman]

We just have too many soft players on this finesse team. We need to go in the smashmouth direction. Or maybe we're just very unlucky.

Luck is a major part of it, but I find it hard to believe that we have bad luck multiple years in a row. Something else has got to causing it, though I agree that luck is a big part

[deedub75]

I get a little injured every time I watch a Colts game now.

[21isSuperman]

I get a little injured every time I watch a Colts game now.

I cry a bit on the inside every time I see Peyton on the sidelines

[Superman]

Ya think Calwell's attitude toward resting injured players may have an influence here? Wonder what it looked like a Wake Forrest?

No.

I know it's in vogue to blame everything on Caldwell (unless it's being blamed on Polian, which is even better), but I don't get how we can blame his resting starters in 2009 for increased injuries in 2010 and 2011.

[deedub75]

No.

I know it's in vogue to blame everything on Caldwell (unless it's being blamed on Polian, which is even better), but I don't get how we can blame his resting starters in 2009 for increased injuries in 2010 and 2011.

It must have something to do with the scheme. I don't know what else it could be.

[Superman]

It must have something to do with the scheme. I don't know what else it could be.

I personally believe it's out of anyone's control. I know we're looking for someone to blame, but I don't think this is a blameable issue. Injuries just happen. It's football.