Pagnano or Arians?

[Beauregarde]

If were hiring a new coach right now and you saw what Pagano did this year and what Arians has done in Indy and then in Arizona, who would you choose to coach your team?

[Dustin]

Is Arians the play-caller too in this scenario?

[Beauregarde]

Is Arians calling the play-caller too in this scenario?

However you think it should be. If you want to make a vote but decide that only if he is not calling the plays you can say that. It is a very good question and I wish I had thought of it. I guess you could say the same thing about Pagano considering if Pep is calling the plays or not.

[Caleb3502]

Chuckstrong

[Beauregarde]

Chuckstrong

Put in your vote in the poll.... Thanks

[throwing BBZ]

 Two good men with Leadership ability.
 I don`t want anything to do with Arians play calling. So no.

 

 I suspect Chuck is best made for a secondary coach. Not sure about him as a DC as none had ever hired him to do that, he inherited the Ravens DC job for 1 season.
 It is easy to say/think one would pick a better candidate. Definitely Not a certainty. Chuck pumped Link as a 4 position player. Link is a body at Guard and I don`t want him playing a DOWN at Any tackle position.

Chuck is on Double Probation because of how he managed our O-Line these last 2 years. IMO. And i am Definitely concerned about our Line Coaching.
 Chuck can grow with his roster and get better just like anyone else. He needs to. I vote somewhere between indifferent to slightly positive on Chuck.

[Naptown Lifer]

What is your agenda Beauregarde

[Beauregarde]

What is your agenda Beauregarde

I don't have an agenda. I just think it will be interesting to see what people think. I have my own opinion and I enjoy reading others. I thanked Dustin for asking a very good question. What is your agenda?

[ÅÐØNϧ 1]

If were hiring a new coach right now and you saw what Pagano did this year and what Arians has done in Indy and then in Arizona, who would you choose to coach your team?

 

Dude this is starting to irritate me  just a lil  I got it you love B.A .

 

You say what Pagano did this year  & then say Arians last year here & this year at Arizona .

 

So are you suggesting 2012 only counts for Arians ?

 

Starting with 2012 Pagano was at the helm the Colts kicked off the 2012 season, Oct he was diagnosed his staff carried on as did the team . finishing 11-5    CHUCKSTRONG

 

2013 Pagano at the helm with new OC Pep Hamilton  started & finished the season 11-5 with a playoff win against Kansas City .

 

11-5  the common denominator or coach Chuck Pagano .  

Edited February 15, 2014 by 21isSuperman

[Beauregarde]

Dude this is starting to irritate me  just a lil  I got it you love B.A .

 

You say what Pagano did this year  & then say Arians last year here & this year at Arizona .

 

So are you suggesting 2012 only counts for Arians ?

 

Starting with 2012 Pagano was at the helm the Colts kicked off the 2012 season, Oct he was diagnosed his staff carried on as did the team . finishing 11-5    CHUCKSTRONG

 

2013 Pagano at the helm with new OC Pep Hamilton  started & finished the season 11-5 with a playoff win against Kansas City .

 

11-5  the common denominator or coach Chuck Pagano .  

Who was the 2012 NFL Coach of the Year. I rest my case...

[Beauregarde]

Dude this is starting to irritate me  just a lil  on another threads you were coddeling Arians berries I got it you love B.A .

 

You say what Pagano did this year  & then say Arians last year here & this year at Arizona .

 

So are you suggesting 2012 only counts for Arians ?

 

Starting with 2012 Pagano was at the helm the Colts kicked off the 2012 season, Oct he was diagnosed his staff carried on as did the team . finishing 11-5    CHUCKSTRONG

 

2013 Pagano at the helm with new OC Pep Hamilton  started & finished the season 11-5 with a playoff win against Kansas City .

 

11-5  the common denominator or coach Chuck Pagano .  

I think B.A. has the advantage because he makes the most out of the talent he has to work with. I keep getting the idea that Pagano is trying to drive a square peg into a round hole. Just my opinion from observing both of them in action.

[ÅÐØNϧ 1]

I think B.A. has the advantage because he makes the most out of the talent he has to work with. I keep getting the idea that Pagano is trying to drive a square peg into a round hole. Just my opinion from observing both of them in action.

 

Hes not the only one trying to drive a square peg in a round whole .

 

These are COLTS boards if all you want to talk about is the Cardinals coach you should take it to the general boards ,

Edited February 15, 2014 by 21isSuperman

[John Dee]

Since when did 11 wins become disappointing? 

 

Oh, and beat SF, Sea, and Denver....  

 

 

I think Indy is on the come.

[Beauregarde]

Hes not the only one trying to drive a square peg in a round whole .

 

These are COLTS boards if all you want to talk about is the Cardinals coach you should take your nonsense to the general boards ,

I think you are going overboard. If you don't want to see my posts put me on ignore instead of complaining about it. I was asking a question and I wanted to see what people really thought. Isn't that what these boards are really all about. I enjoyed reading your opinion even if I disagree with you. I am not promoting Arians but a lot was made of Pagano being rated low in a survey and I think the person who did the article was about right.

[21isSuperman]

Hes not the only one trying to drive a square peg in a round whole .

 

These are COLTS boards if all you want to talk about is the Cardinals coach you should take it to the general boards ,

He's free to express his opinions and ideas here.  If you do not like the topic or it irritates you, simply don't click on it.

[scousecolt]

Pagnano.

[21isSuperman]

Some of Pagano's coaching decisions do leave me questioning what's going on.  For example, his insistence on playing Satele at C doesn't make sense to me.  With that said, I think Pagano does have potential as a head coach.  I don't think he has reached that potential yet and some of his coaching leaves a lot to be desired, but there is room to grow.  It's hard for me to say what he should change since I don't know exactly what he does in terms of scheming, coaching guys one on one, how he balances the duties with the OC and DC, etc.

[Beauregarde]

He's free to express his opinions and ideas here.  If you do not like the topic or it irritates you, simply don't click on it.

Thank you but I didn't find him offensive or degrading. We disagree just a little and not as much as he probably thinks. I started this thread out of curiosity about what other people thought. I fully expected Pagano to get great support. How can you dislike the man, I certainly do not dislike him.

[HtownColt]

Pagano had a top 10 scoring defense, Arians offense wasn't top ten in anything except for maybe turnovers

Even Pep's offense was arguably better than Arians this past year, and some people on here hated Pep's offense for most of the year

[Beauregarde]

Some of Pagano's coaching decisions do leave me questioning what's going on.  For example, his insistence on playing Satele at C doesn't make sense to me.  With that said, I think Pagano does have potential as a head coach.  I don't think he has reached that potential yet and some of his coaching leaves a lot to be desired, but there is room to grow.  It's hard for me to say what he should change since I don't know exactly what he does in terms of scheming, coaching guys one on one, how he balances the duties with the OC and DC, etc.

Well said and I agree with every bit of it.

[ÅÐØNϧ 1]

I think you are going overboard. If you don't want to see my posts put me on ignore instead of complaining about it. I was asking a question and I wanted to see what people really thought. Isn't that what these boards are really all about. I enjoyed reading your opinion even if I disagree with you. I am not promoting Arians but a lot was made of Pagano being rated low in a survey and I think the person who did the article was about right.

 

[Beauregarde]

Since when did 11 wins become disappointing? 

 

Oh, and beat SF, Sea, and Denver....  

 

 

I think Indy is on the come.

Those were three very impressive wins.

[Junior]

Option C: Belichick or Chip Kelly. Please.

[John Dee]

Yes they were... 

 

All the while losing Allen, Brad, Ballard, Thomas, Wayne, Toler, and both lines in constant flux.  

 

This team played very well. 

 

Rome was NOT built in one day.   or two seasons.    Beef up both lines and this team is on it's way.

Those were three very impressive wins.

[jshipp23]

Arians alll day! SHOULD have won Coach of the Year again.

[jshipp23]

I wouldn't hire Pagano to coach a middle school team ..

[John Dee]

See you all NEXT September...  

 

golly.

[Deathiltis]

I wouldn't hire Arians to coach a middle school team ..

[Beauregarde]

Arians alll day! SHOULD have won Coach of the Year again.

I agree with you about that.

[thedude]

Arians has morphed the cards into a great team. Who knows what they would have done had they been in a different division. They certainly would have won every AFC division.

[thedude]

I wouldn't hire Arians to coach a middle school team ..

Odd comment

[Beauregarde]

Arians has morphed the cards into a great team. Who knows what they would have done had they been in a different division. They certainly would have won every AFC division.

That team had been down for quite a while but there are some decent players there. Arians got a good QB and he made it work with the people he inherited. The mark of a great coach. I also agree that they would have been the best team in the AFC.

[Naptown Lifer]

That team had been down for quite a while but there are some decent players there. Arians got a good QB and he made it work with the people he inherited. The mark of a great coach. I also agree that they would have been the best team in the AFC.

No

[Beauregarde]

No

And who would have been better than the Cardinals in the AFC? I agree with the original poster that they would have won any division in the AFC. What is it that you are saying "no" to, exactly.

[Naptown Lifer]

And who would have been better than the Cardinals in the AFC? I agree with the original poster that they would have won any division in the AFC. What is it that you are saying "no" to, exactly.

The colts, pats, broncos, Kansas City, Cincy, and maybe chargers

[GoColts8818]

The amount of whinnying we do over a Coach coming off an 11-5 season, a division title, and a playoff victory with a team in it's second year of almost complete rebuilding is laughable. 

[thedude]

The colts, pats, broncos, Kansas City, Cincy, and maybe chargers

Nope.

[Balzer40]

The amount of whinnying we do over a Coach coming off an 11-5 season, a division title, and a playoff victory with a team in it's second year of almost complete rebuilding is laughable. 

 

 

The word "we" should not be used. It is a "few" very unintelligent and uninformed goofballs that really need to get a better understanding of football before posting such ridiculous nonsense over and over. These goofs that want Pagano gone need to grow up and come to terms with the fact that he has done a very good job and he is not going anywhere. Pagano has at the very least 2 more yrs. here if he chooses to and his health stays good. If things have completely fell apart in that time then it may be time to look elsewhere, but constantly saying he should be fired now is beyond ignorant. 

[Naptown Lifer]

Nope.

You're right teams that fail to make the playoffs are better than teams that do

How is u so smart??,!?

[TKnight24]

I agree with you about that.

Arians alll day! SHOULD have won Coach of the Year again.

Wasn't Carson Palmer top 3 in interceptions thrown this season? Arians offensive playcalling is garbage. He doesn't deserve coach of the year

Andrew Luck got him that HC job & coach of the year. Go look at the film. How many QB's can complete a 20+ yard pass with Clay Matthews hanging on their arm?

You'd be a fool to hire Arians as your HC or OC