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So you think before this interview, roughly 1-2min after the play of his life, he thought to himself, "Hey Erin Andrews is going to find me, what I should do is yell into the microphone, proclaiming I am the best, and Crabtree isn't, Boy I hope she asks me the question to the answer I just made up"...

 

No one can give off the cuff unplanned talk anymore? It all has to be calculated and planned?....I think you are giving Sherman to much credit...

But he's a Stanford grad, right?

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So you think before this interview, roughly 1-2min after the play of his life, he thought to himself, "Hey Erin Andrews is going to find me, what I should do is yell into the microphone, proclaiming I am the best, and Crabtree isn't, Boy I hope she asks me the question to the answer I just made up"...

 

No one can give off the cuff unplanned talk anymore? It all has to be calculated and planned?....I think you are giving Sherman to much credit...

 

Just because something is off the cuff, unplanned, doesn't mean it's beyond criticism. 

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So you think before this interview, roughly 1-2min after the play of his life, he thought to himself, "Hey Erin Andrews is going to find me, what I should do is yell into the microphone, proclaiming I am the best, and Crabtree isn't, Boy I hope she asks me the question to the answer I just made up"...

 

No one can give off the cuff unplanned talk anymore? It all has to be calculated and planned?....I think you are giving Sherman to much credit...

Everyones entitled to an opinion. I think the earth is flat. It doesn't matter that there are mountains of evidence suggesting otherwise. Thats my opinion. I shouldn't be corrected because of it right?

Sorry..

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Just because something is off the cuff, unplanned, doesn't mean it's beyond criticism. 

 

I dont disagree, but that wasn't the point being made (you know this, which is why I find your comment questionable). It was in reference that somehow his comments were pre-planned, calculated, and attention seeking. 

 

 

What people?

 

What would appear to be the majority of Americans, because two pretty solid Championship games have been widely ignored in favor of this 'story'. 

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Everyone thinks Richard Sherman is satan and he is a horrible person for some trash talk. It's getting a little out of hand how many people a bothered by a little smack talk in a big boy sport

A little? The guy does it every game, the entire game. Were watching to watch pros, not children.

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A little? The guy does it every game, the entire game. Were watching to watch pros, not children.

I don't care if he does it every quarter of every game. I wanna watch good football and Richard Sherman is one if the best damn defensive players in the NFL. His trash talk don't change how well he plays so I couldn't care less.
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"Hell of a game" (attempts to shake hands with Crabtree) and gets shoved in the face and Sherman is somehow the bad guy and needs to apologize to Crabtree? Smh please

http://www.nfl.com/videos/seattle-seahawks/0ap2000000316744/Sound-FX-Sherman-and-Crabtree-clash

But Sherman was being a *canoe and was saying it smugly! (Sarcasm)

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I dont disagree, but that wasn't the point being made (you know this, which is why I find your comment questionable). It was in reference that somehow his comments were pre-planned, calculated, and attention seeking. 

 

 

I know what you stated in the other thread about Sherman, regarding authentic and genuine comments. Unless your comments about talking off the cuff are to only be viewed in a vacuum, which doesn't seem appropriate.

 

I also know that many people have defended Sherman's comments as being real and just a reflection of how he felt at the time, that with his adrenaline pumping after the end of a big game, what came out of his mouth was just sort of spontaneous and so on.

 

The insistence is that criticizing him for his outburst is misplaced, because it was spontaneous and authentic. And I disagree. We all have to take responsibility for the things we do and say, whether we're under pressure or not. To me, it's irrelevant whether his comments were calculated and prepared, or off the cuff and spontaneous. Either way, I think he made a mistake. To keep talking about why he did it and explaining what he was thinking or how he was feeling isn't really important to me.

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I don't care if he does it every quarter of every game. I wanna watch good football and Richard Sherman is one if the best damn defensive players in the NFL. His trash talk don't change how well he plays so I couldn't care less.

I think it takes away from 'good' football. It would be just as good without it causing stops in the game. That's why I hated cortland finnegan. He was a pink too. You can be good, and not act childish aswell.

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I know what you stated in the other thread about Sherman, regarding authentic and genuine comments. Unless your comments about talking off the cuff are to only be viewed in a vacuum, which doesn't seem appropriate.

I also know that many people have defended Sherman's comments as being real and just a reflection of how he felt at the time, that with his adrenaline pumping after the end of a big game, what came out of his mouth was just sort of spontaneous and so on.

The insistence is that criticizing him for his outburst is misplaced, because it was spontaneous and authentic. And I disagree. We all have to take responsibility for the things we do and say, whether we're under pressure or not. To me, it's irrelevant whether his comments were calculated and prepared, or off the cuff and spontaneous. Either way, I think he made a mistake. To keep talking about why he did it and explaining what he was thinking or how he was feeling isn't really important to me.

The biggest thing is, is that even after he had time to shower, calm down, change, and go to a press conference, he was still spouting off nonsense. So that only supports that his original comments were NOT because of being in the moment. To say otherwise is to be lying to yourself when seeing his follow up comments.

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The biggest thing is, is that even after he had time to shower, calm down, change, and go to a press conference, he was still spouting off nonsense. So that only supports that his original comments were NOT because of being in the moment. To say otherwise is to be lying to yourself when seeing his follow up comments.

 

I said earlier that I'm not really all that worried about what he said. It's when and how he said it, and who he said it to. It's not surprising that people are reacting the way they are, given how he presented himself. 

 

The substance of his actual comments is another topic, to me. It's not good sportsmanship and it's still incredibly self-serving, but in a different venue, they'd just be shrugged off as Richard Sherman talking smack again. Not him being an uneducated thug (which isn't true at all, but he fueled that perception).

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I said earlier that I'm not really all that worried about what he said. It's when and how he said it, and who he said it to. It's not surprising that people are reacting the way they are, given how he presented himself.

The substance of his actual comments is another topic, to me. It's not good sportsmanship and it's still incredibly self-serving, but in a different venue, they'd just be shrugged off as Richard Sherman talking smack again. Not him being an uneducated thug (which isn't true at all, but he fueled that perception).

I don't get how talking trash about your opponents in football makes you a thug. Thug to me is like a criminal or someone who beats up kids for lunch money Lol.

He's just a mean dude, but not a thug imo

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I don't get how talking trash about your opponents in football makes you a thug. Thug to me is like a criminal or someone who beats up kids for lunch money Lol.

He's just a mean dude, but not a thug imo

 

It doesn't. Not even close.

 

But in a vacuum, I can understand how a big, dreadlocked black man screaming at/to a little white woman comes across as thuggish. Especially with no backstory. It was a loud and unnecessary outburst. (I say this as a black man. I'm not trying to perpetuate the stereotypes, but they exist, and I'm painfully aware of them. It's part of the reason why I wish he hadn't done this.)

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It doesn't. Not even close.

But in a vacuum, I can understand how a big, dreadlocked black man screaming at/to a little white woman comes across as thuggish. Especially with no backstory. It was a loud and unnecessary outburst. (I say this as a black man. I'm not trying to perpetuate the stereotypes, but they exist, and I'm painfully aware of them. It's part of the reason why I wish he hadn't done this.)

The thing about that is Sherman wasn't screaming "at" her at all. But I get your point about how many people would stereotypically view it as what you described.

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    In Richard Sherman's media tour...

 

.....he talked about how great HE was and how intelligent HE was....

 

..and said he was 'shocked' by the racism and hate RE received and sorry for the fact the HE over shadowed his team's win....

 

..even though HE reached out to Erin Andrews...

 

...and how people..should not judge  HIM for his totally voluntary offensive  punk behavior which apparently

 

offended millions and drew thousands of bitter responses...

 

 

 

...Did he call Crabtree?

 

Did Hank Aaron call Crabtree........

 

Stpehen A Smith..........Rachel Nichols....

 

 

..anybody....

 

Apologize for what? Sherman smacking Crabtree on the backside and offering his hand saying "heckuva game!", then getting pushed in the face? I'm sorry, but tell me again why Sherman should be apologizing to Crabtree? Or ANYONE for that matter? Sherman puts his money where his mouth is and I will gladly take that all day EVERY day.

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Ok did I miss something?

 

When did Crabtree of all people seem like a person ANYONE would apologize to?  He is a self centered person ever since College.  Hell he threw a fit because he wasn't the FIRST RECEIVER DRAFTED and HELD OUT...  Seems to me its Pot calling Kettle black and all the media and everyone else should just stay out of it and let them insult each other. 

 

It is a big boy sport.  They can act and talk like they want.  If I choose to be a fan of that player regardless that is my choice.  I don't like either of them but lets not try and say these 2 have to measure up to sainthood... They are just football players.  And both with foul attitudes but it works for them so good FOR THEM.

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He apologized so it didnt look like he was putting himself over the team after they just won a trip to the Superbowl not because he is sorry about what he said. I can't believe how easily people get offended. Probably wasn't the best thing to do at the time or on the air but all great athletes or people that make it to that level are ultracompetitive that's why they get to where they are.

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He apologized so it didnt look like he was putting himself over the team after they just won a trip to the Superbowl not because he is sorry about what he said. I can't believe how easily people get offended. Probably wasn't the best thing to do at the time or on the air but all great athletes or people that make it to that level are ultracompetitive that's why they get to where they are.

But you have just been offended by people being offended at what Sherman did.

Getting offended is easier than you would think.

No offence by the way.

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