bap1331 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Is it me or is it starting to look like Russell Wilson is not as good as we think? His little running plays are not starting to work, hes starting to panick in the pocket. It seems like the defenses are starting to learn his style of play. There is something for sure that Manziel won't be doing his little runs next year in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Peytonator Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 The guy is a good QB. His style is a little different, he's not the scrambling guy that tries to bust off 20 yard runs like Kaepernick, RG3, or Newton. He's the scrambling guy that escapes pressure and keeps his eyes downfield still with the pass in mind. Honestly his Oline is below average. Okung and Unger are pretty solid, but the other three guys suck. He consistently evades pressure and finds a guy downfield. A little Big Ben like, but much more elusive and I think a little bit smarter. I like the guy and I think he has a bright future. He had a solid game tonight and it's not like he was playing a scrub defense. There were a few goofy looking plays, but overall he more than held his own for a second year QB playing in a championship game. Agreed about Manziel....bust in the making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achcolts Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 i think russell wilson is the closest to future greatness (to andrew luck) out of all the young QBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKCOLT17 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 all i know is the seahawks are so lucky to have a defense like that and lynch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azcolt Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Wilson is Tarkenton 2.0, which isn't a terrible thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwinnettColt Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I would love to see Wilson win a ring this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amfootball Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Wilson is the most poised of the young QBs. He definitely has that IT factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Wilson is going in the same way Big Ben went into the SB in year 2, on the heels of a great D and running game. That was against the Seahawks that time in 2005, this time the young gun is playing FOR the Seahawks. One of the best young QBs of this generation. Very level headed and much like Luck, has what it takes to be successful for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open window Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Wilson is the most poised of the young QBs. He definitely has that IT factor.That is like your opinion man. "IT Factor" sounds like something Skip would say, it means nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amfootball Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 That is like your opinion man. "IT Factor" sounds like something Skip would say, it means nothing.Not mine. Most people use it to describe a QB that makes the right decisions under pressure. Like I said, he shows great poise for a second year guy and is very intelligent. He will only get better. But for sure he is also playing on the best team in the NFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open window Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Not mine. Most people use it to describe a QB that makes the right decisions under pressure. Like I said, he shows great poise for a second year guy and is very intelligent. He will only get better. But for sure he is also playing on the best team in the NFC. Wilson is a good young QB on a great team nothing more nothing less. "Most people" sounds like a Fox news source, you said Wilson is the most poised of the young QB crop, then you credit your opinion to "most people" quite curious. It looks like a thinly veiled shot at Luck, I am begining to understand why you like Skippy B so much. Some people say you guys have alot in common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amfootball Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Wilson is a good young QB on a great team nothing more nothing less. "Most people" sounds like a Fox news source, you said Wilson is the most poised of the young QB crop, then you credit your opinion to "most people" quite curious. It looks like a thinly veiled shot at Luck, I am begining to understand why you like Skippy B so much. Some people say you guys have alot in common.Lol. Is your Luck sensitivity meter up? I thought it was only RG that bothered you? Now it is Wilson too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mameluc Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 The only thing that i dotn like Wilson, specially yesterday, is that he looked way too antsy on the pocket. like he knew the pass rush was gonna get him and he needed to move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Track Guy Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Wilson is pretty good but he's clearly more of a "game manager" than anything else. He's riding a loaded team and the nature of being QB is sometimes you get more credit (or blame) than you deserve. He is pretty good, but he's not a top 5 QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Track Guy Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 The only thing that i dotn like Wilson, specially yesterday, is that he looked way too antsy on the pocket. like he knew the pass rush was gonna get him and he needed to move. I noticed that about him as well, plus he had this nasty habit of running directly backwards to avoid pressure, which only further gets you into trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open window Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Lol. Is your Luck sensitivity meter up? I thought it was only RG that bothered you? Now it is Wilson too?No, but my nonsense meter is going crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amfootball Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 No, but my nonsense meter is going crazy.ok. Wilson stinks. Feel better now? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open window Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Wilson is a good young QB on a great team nothing more nothing less. "Most people" sounds like a Fox news source, you said Wilson is the most poised of the young QB crop, then you credit your opinion to "most people" quite curious. It looks like a thinly veiled shot at Luck, I am begining to understand why you like Skippy B so much. Some people say you guys have alot in common. ok. Wilson stinks. Feel better now? ;)Perhaps you don't read well? Maybe you can't stray from your agenda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amfootball Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Perhaps you don't read well? Maybe you can't stray from your agenda?Good then we agree. I just think right now he is the best of the young QBs from a developmental standpoint. And lest you get sensitive again that is not a shot at Luck, Kaep or Newton ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Like I said, Russell Wilson is like Big Ben on a loaded team going into his first SB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentHill Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Imagine if the Seahawks had Luck. 19-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open window Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Good then we agree. I just think right now he is the best of the young QBs from a developmental standpoint. And lest you get sensitive again that is not a shot at Luck, Kaep or Newton ... I'm not sensitive, I just don't care for sensationalism, and conjecture. I like facts and reason combined with thoughtfulness used in a compelling manner to make a point, as opposed to your rubbish. Moving on, what can Tom Brady do that Manning, Brees etc. can't? I would like to ask Rodgers what he meant, and if he would like to redact that quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amfootball Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I'm not sensitive, I just don't care for sensationalism, and conjecture. I like facts and reason combined with thoughtfulness used in a compelling manner to make a point, as opposed to your rubbish. Moving on, what can Tom Brady do that Manning, Brees etc. can't? I would like to ask Rodgers what he meant, and if he would like to redact that quote.Rodgers would never retract the truth. Brady is his idol if you didn't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rittdk01 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 He doesn't have to do a whole lot with that defense and Lynch. Best young QB's in order:LuckFolesColin KDaultonCamWilsonGlennonTannehill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runthepost Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 He doesn't have to do a whole lot with that defense and Lynch.Best young QB's in order:LuckFolesColin KDaultonCamWilsonGlennonTannehillI'll move cam to second... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsrobinson Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Imagine if the Seahawks had Luck. 19-0Is that the same Luck who just threw 7 INTs in two playoff games? Russell Wilson is now 3-1 in the postseason, has thrown just one INT in those four games and is on his way to the Super Bowl. Wilson is the better QB at this point in their careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Neon Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 His fumble on the first play surprised me. He really needs to protect the ball better. Luck and Wilson are pretty similar, with Wilson having more success but being asked to do far less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentHill Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Is that the same Luck who just threw 7 INTs in two playoff games? Russell Wilson is now 3-1 in the postseason, has thrown just one INT in those four games and is on his way to the Super Bowl. Wilson is the better QB at this point in their careers. Russel Wilson is more of a game manager than Alex Smith. Stats that a QB can control speak more about the "player". That Seahawks team is running on Defense and run game, Anyone could be the QB, If they win the SB, he is the equivalent of Trent Dilfer, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Russel Wilson is more of a game manager than Alex Smith. Stats that a QB can control speak more about the "player". That Seahawks team is running on Defense and run game, Anyone could be the QB, If they win the SB, he is the equivalent of Trent Dilfer, He is not that level of game manager. He is at least Big Ben, IMO, he does make Big Ben like plays by scrambling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Track Guy Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 The interception stat is a bit of a farce. Some of "Luck's" INTs have been entirely a fault of the receiver or the O-line, but since that never shows up in the stat sheet they're an easy thing to point to. Any notion that Luck has had "post season struggles" fails to realize that the Colts have been outmatched and relied completely on Luck because they're not a post season caliber squad without him. Ok he threw some interceptions, and few of them were just bad blunders on his part and a few were and the fault of horrible protection and flukes/mistakes by receivers (T.Y. and Stanley Havili each had such plays this post season.) But also consider these playoff numbers (as of before the Superbowl): Luck/Colts: 354 pass yds/gm, 46.667 pass att/gm, 25.333 pts/gmWilson/Seahawks: 222.5 yds/gm, 26.25 pass att/gm, 24.5 pts/gm Which is a game manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentHill Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 He is not that level of game manager. He is at least Big Ben, IMO, he does make Big Ben like plays by scrambling. He's close to Big Ben, when he walked into a championship caliber team, except Seattle has an even better running game, and an even better defense, Wilson's scrambles and pig play ability is a direct result of the Seahawks running attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Is that the same Luck who just threw 7 INTs in two playoff games? Russell Wilson is now 3-1 in the postseason, has thrown just one INT in those four games and is on his way to the Super Bowl. Wilson is the better QB at this point in their careers.Is that the same Wilson who's team wins when he completes just 9 passes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCH Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Both Luck and Wilson are going to be making deep playoff runs for a very long time. I'm sure they'll meet in the big game one of these years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsrobinson Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Russel Wilson is more of a game manager than Alex Smith. Stats that a QB can control speak more about the "player". That Seahawks team is running on Defense and run game, Anyone could be the QB, If they win the SB, he is the equivalent of Trent Dilfer,Russell Wilson's career stats are better than Luck's pretty much across the board except for total passing yards, which is more a measure of quantity than quality. If Wilson is Dilfer what does that make Luck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Neon Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Russell Wilson's career stats are better than Luck's pretty much across the board except for total passing yards, which is more a measure of quantity than quality. If Wilson is Dilfer what does that make Luck?Dan Marino? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentHill Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Russell Wilson's career stats are better than Luck's pretty much across the board except for total passing yards, which is more a measure of quantity than quality. If Wilson is Dilfer what does that make Luck? Again, if you can't see it I can't make you, you can only lead a horse to water, you can't make them drink. Wilson's success is a direct result of the team around him, where Luck's success is more a testament to his individual abilities, since you know he's carrying the Colts. When have you ever seen Wilson carry his team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Track Guy Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Doug Baldwin on Luck vs Wilson: "I'm on the record as saying Andrew Luck can be the greatest quarterback who ever played the game of football... They're both highly intelligent, both make plays with their feet and both have great arms. I don't want to take it any further than that." This is one of Wilson's guys (obviously he's played with both) so I would hold my horses on the Wilson is the best young QB thing. Of course Wilson's a good player and he's on the better team. He's the one going to the big game, Luck's season is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostrils Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 all i know is the seahawks are so lucky to have a defense like that and lynch and o-line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffensivelyPC Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Luck and Wilson are both good young QBs. Switch Colts and Seahawks Defenses and I'd be curious to see how well Wilson and Luck would do. But all things being equal, give me Luck every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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