Cap Space Projections

[BProland85]

http://forum.walterfootball.com/showthread.php?28337-Team-by-Team-2013-Cap-Space-Projections

 

Its saying we have the 3rd most space with roughly 46 million.

 

Im not quite sure how we dont have the most space since the only player Im aware of that we're paying big money to is Mathis next year. I know Bethea is making decent money too but its probably only around 6 mil a year.

[21isSuperman]

I find it hilarious how some teams have negative cap space.  I wonder who is in charge of cap management there

[Balzer40]

Yeah, I seen Cleveland and Cincy has more money than us and I can not figure out how that is possible. Maybe they have a ton of free agents that need to be resigned and the numbers don't reveal that. I haven't taken the time to look at how many free agents each of those teams have, but something don't seem right to me.

[GoColts8818]

http://forum.walterfootball.com/showthread.php?28337-Team-by-Team-2013-Cap-Space-Projections

 

Its saying we have the 3rd most space with roughly 46 million.

 

Im not quite sure how we dont have the most space since the only player Im aware of that we're paying big money to is Mathis next year. I know Bethea is making decent money too but its probably only around 6 mil a year.

Reggie is going to make decent money.  Adam makes big money for a kicker but that's really not much when compared to other NFL Players.  Brown probably has some money coming his way since it would be the last year of his rookie deal.  Not a tone of money but decent money none the less. Same with Redding, Davis, Luck, and Castonzo.  Those are "expensive" players right now.

 

Of that 46 mil we will probably end up re-signing McAfee and Moala out of that and it seems like some around the Colts feel like they might keep Powers as well (got that off the Star article yesterday)  So that will eat up some money but none of those guys are "big" money type guys and other than McAfee could easily be replaced if they think they are big money players.  McAfee is a punter though so much like Adam we could pay him big money for his poistion and really not have it impact the cap greatly.  Don't be shocked if he gets our tag this off-season if we don't get a deal done with him by then. 

[jbaron04]

The cap from the year before rolls over to the new year now

[pacolts56]

I find it hilarious how some teams have negative cap space.  I wonder who is in charge of cap management there

Bill Polian?

[GoColts8818]

Bill Polian?

Honestly Polian was a master of the cap for a lot of years.  This year played out the way it did because Grigson blew up the team and started over.  That was not Polian's plan I am sure.  He would have kept the vets and probably extended a guy like Freeney to make the cap space they needed. 

[pacolts56]

Honestly Polian was a master of the cap for a lot of years.  This year played out the way it did because Grigson blew up the team and started over.  That was not Polian's plan I am sure.  He would have kept the vets and probably extended a guy like Freeney to make the cap space they needed. 

Yeah...he did okay keeping us highly competitive for a long time....but I wouldn't call him a "master" of the cap.

 

Polian's main problem was that he had such a hard-line stance against free agents that he spread our available cap dollars rather stubbornly and too heavily amongst players he drafted.

 

Now....its pretty normal for a team's own drafted players to receive the lion's share of cap dollars when contracts come up...but Polian took it to a point where when it might have made sense to delve into free agency to acquire 2-3 key pieces that could've helped us win another SB or two the cap dollars were rarely, if ever, there.

 

No one bats 1000 when it comes to salary cap management....I understand that.

 

But going year after year falling just short of winning it all for pretty much the same reasons and not having a dime...or evidently, the desire...to TRY and fill some needs thru free agency cancels Polian out as any kind of salary cap "master" IMO.

[Dark Superman]

Davis is rather cheap until we resign him.

[dw49]

Reggie is going to make decent money.  Adam makes big money for a kicker but that's really not much when compared to other NFL Players.  Brown probably has some money coming his way since it would be the last year of his rookie deal.  Not a tone of money but decent money none the less. Same with Redding, Davis, Luck, and Castonzo.  Those are "expensive" players right now.

 

Of that 46 mil we will probably end up re-signing McAfee and Moala out of that and it seems like some around the Colts feel like they might keep Powers as well (got that off the Star article yesterday)  So that will eat up some money but none of those guys are "big" money type guys and other than McAfee could easily be replaced if they think they are big money players.  McAfee is a punter though so much like Adam we could pay him big money for his poistion and really not have it impact the cap greatly.  Don't be shocked if he gets our tag this off-season if we don't get a deal done with him by then. 

 

 

Bethea , Luck , Mathis and Wayne are the most expensive. Here's the list.for 2012.1st number is the base and 2nd is the cap hit

 

 

 

 

LB Dwight Freeney $14 million $19 million 2012 S Antoine Bethea $5.025 million $6.225 million 2013 LB Robert Mathis $2 million $5.75 million 2015 QB Andrew Luck $390,000 $4.02 million 2015 WR Reggie Wayne $1 million $3.5 million 2014 PK Adam Vinatieri $2 million $3.2 million 2013 DT Antonio Johnson $1.25 million $2 million 2013 RB Donald Brown $865,000 $1.88 million 2013 C Samson Satele $700,000 $1.87 million 2014 OT Anthony Castonzo $738,686 $1.82 million 2014 DE Cory Redding $825,000 $1.717 million 2014 LB Jerry Hughes $635,000 $1.691 million 2014 OT Winston Justice $1.5 million $1.5 million 2012 CB Jerraud Powers $1.308 million $1.477 million 2012 WR Austin Collie $1.308 million $1.417 million 2012 P Pat McAfee $1.308 million $1.323 million 2012 S Tom Zbikowski $700,000 $1.092 million 2014 TE Coby Fleener $390,000 $971,209 2015 CB Vontae Davis $957,500 $957,500 2013 OL Mike McGlynn $700,000 $925,000 2013 DT Fili Moala $615,000 $900,000 2012 LB Pat Angerer $540,000 $792,500 2013 QB Drew Stanton $700,000 $750,000 2012 WR Donnie Avery $615,000 $615,000 2012 LB Moise Fokou $615,000 $615,000 2012 CB Justin King $615,000 $615,000 2012 DT Drake Nevis $485,000 $602,278 2014 RB Delone Carter $465,000 $571,301 2014 TE Dwayne Allen $390,000 $565,826 2015 LB Kavell Conner $540,000 $551,309 2013 OT Jeff Linkenbach $540,000 $546,667 2012 RB Mewelde Moore $825,000 $540,000 2012 CB Cassius Vaughn $540,000 $540,000 2012 OL Seth Olsen $540,000 $540,000 2012 CB Josh Gordy $540,000 $540,000 2012 DT Ricardo Mathews $540,000 $540,000 2012 G Joe Reitz $540,000 $540,000 2012 S Sergio Brown $540,000 $540,000 2013 WR T.Y. Hilton $390,000 $521,850 2015 S Joe Lefeged $465,000 467,667 2013 NT Martin Tevaseu $465,000 $465,000 2012 OT Mike Person $465,000 $465,000 2014 DE Mario Addison $465,000 $465,000 2013 RB Vick Ballard $390,000 $426,140 2015 WR LaVon Brazill $390,000 $409,670 2015 QB Chandler Harnish $390,000 $401,500 2015 LS Matt Overton $390,000 $390,000 2014 DE Justin Hickman $390,000 $390,0000 2014 LB Mario Harvey $390,000 $390,000 2014 LB Jerrell Freeman $390,000 $390,000 2014 OL A.Q. Shipley $390,000 $390,000 2014 TE Dominique Jones $390,000 $390,000 2014 WR Kris Adams $390,000 $390,000 2014

 

 

Physically Unable to Perform

 

Player Base Cap Number Thru DT Josh Chapman $390,000 $443,878 2015 OL Justin Anderson $390,000 $406,750 2015

 

 

Injured Reserve

 

Player Base Cap Number Thru OT Ben Ijalana $558,886 $919,431 2014 DT Brandon McKinney $700,000 $850,000 2013 LB A.J. Edds $465,000 $465,000 2012 CB Korey Lindsey $465,000 $465,000 2012 LB Scott Lutrus $465,000 $465,000 2012 WR Griff Whalen $390,000 $390,000-x 2014 WR Jason Sambrano $390,000 $390,000-x 2014 CB Brandon King $615,000 $615,000 2012 S Mike Newton $465,000 $465,000 2013 RB Deji Karim $540,000 $540,000 2012 LB Tim Fugger $390,000 $405,569 2015 NT James Aiono $390,000 $390,000 2014

 

[NewEra]

thats stinks, I thought we had the most. well, still have a ton I guess. colts>cleveland,cincy

[Tark The Shark]

It is good that we now have some money to bring guys in.

 

I could see us possibly keeping Powers just for depth reasons, but I doubt he will be cheap and will probably walk.

 

Also I see Freeney walking to a more 4-3 team. He didn't have the stats to justify him as a solid OLB. I would much rather go with the cheaper, younger Hughes.

[ReMeDy]

Bill Polian?

 

Bill? Who's Bill? You mean Chris?...

[pacolts56]

Bill? Who's Bill? You mean Chris?...

You're right....young Polian had a hand in it too.

[Superman]

Yeah, I seen Cleveland and Cincy has more money than us and I can not figure out how that is possible. Maybe they have a ton of free agents that need to be resigned and the numbers don't reveal that. I haven't taken the time to look at how many free agents each of those teams have, but something don't seem right to me.

 

I don't know why it's hard to believe that other teams have more cap space than us.

 

The Bengals have a lot of players on rookie contracts, and a lot of free agents in 2013. 

[Brooklyn Colt]

I don't know why it's hard to believe that other teams have more cap space than us.

 

The Bengals have a lot of players on rookie contracts, and a lot of free agents in 2013. 

They could be a major competition of ours in the offseason since they are the only good team that have as much money as we do..and here I thought it was gonna be a walk in the park where we could have almost any FA we like..

[Balzer40]

I don't know why it's hard to believe that other teams have more cap space than us.

 

The Bengals have a lot of players on rookie contracts, and a lot of free agents in 2013. 

 

 

Well, for one thing, it was widely reported that the Colts would have far more money to spend than any other team in 2013. Another thing is that I said they could have a ton of free agents that they will resign, but with all the money that we got rid of this season and with all the dead money we played with this season, I don't see how any other team could have more money coming off the books than the Colts.

[Malakai432]

Lol @ Dallas.....

[throwing BBZ]

Castonzo a BIG Money player? $1,102,000 for 2013
V Davis Big Money? $1,136,000
Redding Big Money? $3,500,000
Luck Big Money? $1,394,000


Our Big $$$ this season

$tat$ Manning $10,400,000. -- One & Done AGAIN
Gary Bracket $7,200,00 -- Who picked up this "Pro Bowler"?
Dallas Clark $5,580,000 -- 47 rec in 2012 The 4th time he had 40+ Rec. in a season.
Kelvin Hayden $5,400,000 -- Played in 16 games for the 1st time since 2007 37 tackles 1 Int.
Joseph Addai $3.720,000 -- expensive and not very productive - didn`t play for Anyone in 2012, injury issues
Melvin Bullitt $2,670,000 -- Bad shoulder

Edited January 14, 2013 by Nadine
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[loudnproudcolt]

When looking at who is competition for FA, since many will want to go to a winning team, then I think you look at other attributes to determine who may have an edge. If you look at Cin. and competing with them, although their image has drastically improved the last two years, Mike Brown finally hired a GM I believe, and I believe they finally built a practice facility for themselves, those two things I just mentioned are the stigma attached to Cin. Very tight with $$. I don't know how the new CBA rules will impact Cin. because I don't know as some posters have said  the loopholes within it, and i am sure there are some. I do know any owner who won't build an indoor practice facility, until the past year, in a cold weather town, is not a team many want to go to.

 

Brown, just can't say right now because of the change in ownership, but if we look at it from a historical point of view, and the division they play in, still a tougher sell.

 

The Colts, winning history the last 10 years, an owner willing to spend to win, and now a coach who many have said "players would go through a wall for". I think our head coach is going to help in the recruitment of FA's and although I am far from partial, I think the Colts really are a good destination for players with a choice of teams IMHO.