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1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Possibly, but I have to see Houston be very good to great for 3 years before I believe they will accomplish anything either. Do you think Houston can beat KC or Baltimore in a playoff situation? I don't so what good does it do just to win the division?


Let’s first win the division, then we can talk. Its hard enough to win a SB after winning the division, so “what good does it do just to win the division” is a short sighted comment.

 

 I get it, you’re frustrated with this grievance thread and the Houston praise but we have to take off the blue colored glasses and admit the key to winning in the playoffs starts with winning the division MOST of the time.

 

Yes, with the right breaks, Houston might be able to sneak a win vs Chiefs or Baltimore but just not both in a row. Weird things can happen in football. Besides, Houston falling short versus those 2 doesn’t help the Colts sitting out of the playoffs feel better about themselves either. 
 

The next stretch of games after the Dolphins game will be put up or shut up time for the talent assembled on the Colts team.

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10 hours ago, GoColts8818 said:

Some of you work really hard to make sure you take no enjoyment out of this team.

I wish i was enjoying it more. I am sorry for the negativity but to me this team has been dull for quite a while now and it doesnt feel like they are building towards success/playoff runs

 

I do hope it works out with Anthony though, other wise we are in for boring games and a long road to nowhere and eventually rebuilding.

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2 hours ago, richard pallo said:

Youngest team in the league with the youngest starting quarterback in the league.  Yet here we are at 3-3 with all of the injuries to key starters.  I think that says a lot about our GM and coach who have managed to still win with backup players making key contributions.

don't say that out loud.  All these nay-sayers will come back in full force with all their facts, ideas and will demand the Colts fire everyone on site and move the team to Montana. 

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5 minutes ago, tfunky14 said:

don't say that out loud.  All these nay-sayers will come back in full force with all their facts, ideas and will demand the Colts fire everyone on site and move the team to Montana. 

While true I think most colt fans are just tired of not seeing improvement each year. There doesn’t seem to be movement forward. I think that’s what most are upset about. Hopefully we will see growth from AR by the end of the season and finally feel we are ready to take the next step.

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10 minutes ago, tfunky14 said:

don't say that out loud.  All these nay-sayers will come back in full force with all their facts, ideas and will demand the Colts fire everyone on site and move the team to Montana. 

All the pesky facts, like the Colts are not the youngest team in the league - not even close. I guess it fits your narrative better to just go fact-free, make stuff up. lol. 

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It’s hard to do when one has so much emotionally invested - but, try and maintain an even strain.  Take pleasure in the small victories - like that great Sanchez punt, Pitt’s catch and Down’s emergence in the slot.

 

As the man said “Everything will be alright in the end…and, if it’s not alright - it’s not yet the end.”

 

Now, I’ll try to heed my own advice. :lecture:

 

 

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All comes down to the QB spot. Let KC or Hou lose their QB for an extended period of time and they'll drop right down to earth and be on our level. 

 

People consider us a meh-middle of the road team, look at all the teams who've had QB problems, they fall into the same category and are pretty much us.

 

If AR hits we're good even with a crap defense, if he busts we'll have to hit repeat again.

 

Don't people remember all the years teams like Buf, Mia, Cle,Oak, Min, NYJ( just off the top of my head) kept drafting and busting on QBs? You gotta hit on the QB, you could have HOF'ers across the board and it won't matter if the QB isn't a hit.

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3 minutes ago, Dingus McGirt said:

It’s hard to do when one has so much emotionally invested - but, try and maintain an even strain.  Take pleasure in the small victories - like that great Sanchez punt, Pitt’s catch and Down’s emergence in the slot.

 

As the man said “Everything will be alright in the end…and, if it’s not alright - it’s not yet the end.”

 

Now, I’ll try to heed my own advice. :lecture:

 

 

That's how I do it honestly. I know I may have seen the best Colts teams ever already and it could be garbage football until I hit the grave... Lol

 

I enjoy whatever I can on Sundays.

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16 hours ago, ColtAndOrioles said:

Really think about this team.   Put away the blue colored glasses and think about this team as a whole, after 8 years of Ballard.  Where are we?  Because this team imo is awash in complete malfunction.  Spinning wheels.  Again....after 8 years of the same leadership. 

 

Be realistic....are we close to winning the division?  No.

 

Are we close to competing for a SB?  Not even close.   I mean not even in the same universe. 

 

Instead we have a QB drafted at #4, after years of avoiding the Qb situation by signing, trading for, and playing other teams castoffs, who now cannot stay healthy.  Who has completed 4 games out of 23.   Who for whatever reason isn't even playing now despite the fact he seems healthy and instead is being replaced by a 39 year old back up.

 

We have a secondary who after 8 years, has our best player being a guy who was cut from another team after this years training camp.  After we heard "we like our guys".  What does that say about how this team has drafted over the years and managements ability to evaluate players?


We have management that can clearly see a D being led by a coordinator who is a complete failure and yet who keeps defending him.  That is psychotic and not a program that is interested in getting better but is more interested in just keeping the status  quo. 

 

We have a D line that has been heavily invested into the past 5 years via the draft, and yet is graded out as one of the worst in the NFL.  Yes the Colts have had injuries, but even before that the D line was graded low.  Our guys are not that good despite how much we want to believe they are.  Even our #1 pick this year, who was hyped like crazy, has done next to nothing.  IMO he looks way too weak and small to ever be a huge impact guy.   He is not athletic at all either.   I am getting Björn Werner vibes. 

 

Our linebackers, for lack of a better word, our mediocre at best.  The ONLY reason they have so many tackles is because the D line lets so many RBs get into the secondary. Period.  None are game changers. 

 

Our O Line, while decent, is still not worth the money invested into it.  An O line worth that type of money would still be able to open holes even  with a JT injury.   But that doesn't happen.  They don't blow people off of the ball.  Watch the past 2 weeks.  Walter Payton could not have run through the holes created by our O line.  They hit the line and are met by 3 guys. 

 

After years of blowing off the WR corp, Ballard finally started to draft WR's and guess what....imo that is now the strongest position on the team.   Weird how that works.  But even so I don't think Ballard ever really wanted to do that as he is all about the lines and not game changing positions.  I just think he felt forced to do it because of the criticism he has faced.

 

When you get down to it, this team, after 8 years, is still regarded to average to moderately below average....as it has been since Ballard took over.  Not once in 8 years has this team been considered for or looked like a contender for a SB appearance. 

 

Think about that.  Not once in 8 years.   Just pure 'averageness". 

 

And it astounds me that so many Colts fans and the Colt ownership is willing to put up with that.  Name me a job where you can do  an average to below average job for 8 years and get paid $millions?

 

There isn't one.

 

How many real ELITE players are on this team?  After all of this time?  I am talking young guys who you can build upon.  Real guys.  Not 'just guys'.  

 

JT.  Maybe Nelson (even that is iffy).  Maybe Raimann.  Downs I believe is.   AR is iffy.  Has potential but iffy due to the fact he gets injured too much.  Pittman is good but not elite.  Buckner?   Very good but I would not call him elite because he is older and gets paid too much.    Who else?

 

Even Steichen has looked like a very average play caller and not what he was billed to be.  An offensive guru.  Do you get 'guru' out of him?  I don't.  The Lions and Packers for example have a way more developed and sophisticated offense. 

 

So what is it....again after 8 years....do we have to look forward to? Where is the hope that we can be truly SB contenders soon?  I don't see it.

 

Time for a change. 

Well we could be the Browns or worse yet, the JAGs… 

16 hours ago, ColtAndOrioles said:

Tell me.  Do you think this team is any closer to contending for a SB compared to 8 years ago?  And has this team contended for a SB in the past 8 years?  

 

Just a very simple yes or no.  And if no.....as we all know is the correct answer....they why do we keep spinning our wheels?

 

It is insanity. 

Yes

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6 minutes ago, csmopar said:

Well we could be the Browns or worse yet, the JAGs… 

Yep. The Browns are the worst run team in NFL history in my opinion. All of the mistakes they've done for years prior to the 2020s... And then to make the worst trade in history with Watson... 

 

There's just really no future with that franchise... at least not for a long time. 

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1 hour ago, BeanDiasucci said:

The Colts are the 10th youngest team. https://bookies.com/nfl/picks/nfl-teams-average-age

 

I don't understand the formula they use.

 

They have the Colts ave. age at 25 years, 5 months, 6 days, which is the youngest of the 32 teams. But they slot the Colts at #23 oldest team and list 9 teams after the Colts, but the they are all older than the Colts.

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1 hour ago, BeanDiasucci said:

The Colts are the 10th youngest team. https://bookies.com/nfl/picks/nfl-teams-average-age

 

Yes @richard pallo likes to stretch numbers a bit because I saw one that had the Colts listed at 14th but the gap between all the teams are minimal and yes while AR is the youngest starting qb most of our wins have come via the backups so his growing pains have not hindered the team drastically due to his injuries. It has more or less affected his development though.

 

Now starters Caleb Williams (R) and CJ Stroud (2nd yr) also sit at 22 yrs of age like AR with another youngster in starter Jayden Daniels (R) sitting a few months ahead at 23 yrs of age. Between rookies Williams and Daniels with 2nd yr qb Stroud thrown in the mix the three qbs have a combined record of 13-5 this season.  Young qbs are not the detriment they once were especially when  paired with decent revamped teams.

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1 hour ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

While true I think most colt fans are just tired of not seeing improvement each year. There doesn’t seem to be movement forward. I think that’s what most are upset about. Hopefully we will see growth from AR by the end of the season and finally feel we are ready to take the next step.

I disagree with that, there is positive movement, maybe not to your liking but there is. 

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1 hour ago, RollerColt said:

Yep. The Browns are the worst run team in NFL history in my opinion. All of the mistakes they've done for years prior to the 2020s... And then to make the worst trade in history with Watson... 

 

There's just really no future with that franchise... at least not for a long time. 

then go find another team, stop complaining all the time

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6 minutes ago, tfunky14 said:

then go find another team, stop complaining all the time

Excuse me? 

 

How about you read what I wrote first. Or re-read it. I am not now, nor ever will I be, a Browns fan. The very aspect of the city of Cleveland nauseates me.

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1 hour ago, BlackTiger said:

I wish i was enjoying it more. I am sorry for the negativity but to me this team has been dull for quite a while now and it doesnt feel like they are building towards success/playoff runs

 

I do hope it works out with Anthony though, other wise we are in for boring games and a long road to nowhere and eventually rebuilding.

I’m sorry you’re not enjoying it. While yeah, the results haven’t been fun, this is the most enjoyable season I’ve had since Lucks rookie year. Perhaps it’s the unknown I don’t know,  but I can’t help but feel taking the beating  now will equal major success in the future

14 minutes ago, tfunky14 said:

then go find another team, stop complaining all the time

I think you quoted the wrong post there boss

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6 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

Excuse me? 

 

How about you read what I wrote first. Or re-read it. I am not now, nor ever will I be, a Browns fan. The very aspect of the city of Cleveland nauseates me.

The best part about Cleveland is the Christmas Story House. That’s it. Period

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40 minutes ago, tfunky14 said:

then go find another team, stop complaining all the time

If you expect all of the commentary about your team to be positive and don't want to hear complaining, is a sports message board really the place for you? 😁 I can't imagine going to a forum designed for discussion, and telling the people there to be more or less positive—or to stop their praise or complaints about the team. Isn't the purpose of this place to share all points of view about the Colts? 

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2 hours ago, bluephantom87 said:

 

Let's actually accomplish ANY of that under Ballard and see if your assumption is correct. Me personally I'll nearly faint due to happiness!!! Being excited about barley beating an awful 1 win team while coming off a loss to a winless team just doesn't do it for me because those are the types of games that you navigate through while being injured. My optimism only goes so far after 8 yrs of futility.

Well there's always 31 other teams to root for if your so unhappy with the Colts 

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3 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

Well there's always 31 other teams to root for if your so unhappy with the Colts 

Absolutely! No unhappiness about your favorite team on a sports message board or you need to find another team! People need to agree with tfunky14 and crazycolt or get out! 😄

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1 minute ago, BeanDiasucci said:

Absolutely! No unhappiness about your favorite team on a sports message board or you need to find another team! People need to agree with tfunky14 and crazycolt or get out! 😄

I'm fine with discussion in improving the team. What needs done to get more wins, etc etc but it just ridiculous lately on here.  

Might as well go drink bleach water and call it a day. 

 

Fire the GM, fire the defensive coordinator, why did we sign this guy, why haven't the Colts made the playoffs the last 8 years in regards to this thread.   

 

Guess what everyone, the other team is trying to.....

 

Do the Colts need to get better, absolutely. I think many on here are spoiled with the 10 plus years of a winning record during the Manning years.  I got news for you, QB's like Manning only come around every so often and you have to be lucky to get them on your team. 

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18 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

What seems boring and mediocre to you is not shared by the majority of the players in the league.  Just because we are not dominant and getting 12 wins a season does mean it’s as you say. 

Until they can beat the Jaguars, I don’t want to hear they are on the right track. They aren’t and quit resigning our own to more money. Get some different players in here and get rid of the always injured ones. 

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44 minutes ago, tfunky14 said:

I'm fine with discussion in improving the team. What needs done to get more wins, etc etc but it just ridiculous lately on here.  

Might as well go drink bleach water and call it a day. 

 

Fire the GM, fire the defensive coordinator, why did we sign this guy, why haven't the Colts made the playoffs the last 8 years in regards to this thread.   

 

Guess what everyone, the other team is trying to.....

 

Do the Colts need to get better, absolutely. I think many on here are spoiled with the 10 plus years of a winning record during the Manning years.  I got news for you, QB's like Manning only come around every so often and you have to be lucky to get them on your team. 

And you're saying what, that fans should have the same level of enthusiasm and hope and interest as when PM was here, simply because we were lucky then?   Do you not see how it makes more sense for fans to NOT be as enthused as these past 8 years continue?

 

Maybe this is what the forum should really look like, and those happier days during the Luck and PM years were just phony and short lived.

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35 minutes ago, tfunky14 said:

I think many on here are spoiled with the 10 plus years of a winning record during the Manning years.

I see this a lot and while that is one way to look at it I dont really agree with it.  The season with Matt Ryan was just down right boring to watch.  Last year was marginally more entertaining imo

 

You can call it spoiled but the way I see it is the league just isnt fun if you go years and years without a franchise QB.  I was around before Peyton too and in about 13 years the team only had a couple of good seasons before finding a real franchise QB

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6 hours ago, chad72 said:


Yep, OL picks and WR picks are coming along great. But D, Ballard should be looking towards free agency more because by the time delayed gratification comes, he can’t keep all his draft picks. Okereke is someone I’d like to have back.
 

His defensive draft picks have been very spotty, and so have his choices for D scheme and coaches. 
 

Every other team has won the division at least TWICE in Ballard’s 8 years. Like Parcells used to say “you are what your record says”. No dancing around that. 

 

It’s an incredible fact that every other team has won the division TWICE. I don’t understand how Ballard has the record he does, yet he acts like he invented the forward pass. 

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5 minutes ago, BlackTiger said:

I see this a lot and while that is one way to look at it I dont really agree with it.  The season with Matt Ryan was just down right boring to watch.  Last year was marginally more entertaining imo

 

You can call it spoiled but the way I see it is the league just isnt fun if you go years and years without a franchise QB.  I was around before Peyton too and in about 13 years the team only had a couple of good seasons before finding a real franchise QB

I agree, Bert Jones, Jeff George, Jim Harbaugh, Mike Pagel to name a few

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47 minutes ago, tfunky14 said:

I'm fine with discussion in improving the team. What needs done to get more wins, etc etc but it just ridiculous lately on here.  

Might as well go drink bleach water and call it a day. 

 

Fire the GM, fire the defensive coordinator, why did we sign this guy, why haven't the Colts made the playoffs the last 8 years in regards to this thread.   

 

Guess what everyone, the other team is trying to.....

 

Do the Colts need to get better, absolutely. I think many on here are spoiled with the 10 plus years of a winning record during the Manning years.  I got news for you, QB's like Manning only come around every so often and you have to be lucky to get them on your team. 

OMG! It's like drinking bleach water. So terrible and so dramatic. Why are you so impacted by what others post? Why is it so upsetting to have opinions, smart or stupid, that you disagree with? If this causes you such despair, why not just skip past a thread titled, "IMO this team is in much worse shape than what is being spun by management or believed by fans....."?

 

I greatly enjoyed the Manning years. I also greatly enjoyed the Pagel years, the Schlitcher years, the Hogeboom years, the Trudeau years, the Chandler years, the George years, the Harbaugh years, the Luck years, the Brissett years, the Rivers year, the Wentz year, the Ryan year, the Minshew year, and the fleeting glimpses of Anthony Richardson. I guarantee that I complained, praised, and made dumb comments about every Colts year. 

 

I used to have season tickets and sat near a guy named Charlie, a lawyer, who would criticize all game, every game, every season. He was a great guy and his constant pessimism cracked me up. It's just how he is. As long as people are following the forum rules, why can't we just let them be them and not try to make them be us?  

 

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, BeanDiasucci said:

OMG! It's like drinking bleach water. So terrible and so dramatic. Why are you so impacted by what others post? Why is it so upsetting to have opinions, smart or stupid, that you disagree with? If this causes you such despair, why not just skip past a thread titled, "IMO this team is in much worse shape than what is being spun by management or believed by fans....."?

 

I greatly enjoyed the Manning years. I also greatly enjoyed the Pagel years, the Schlitcher years, the Hogeboom years, the Trudeau years, the Chandler years, the George years, the Harbaugh years, the Luck years, the Brissett years, the Rivers year, the Wentz year, the Ryan year, the Minshew year, and the fleeting glimpses of Anthony Richardson. I guarantee that I complained, praised, and made dumb comments about every Colts year. 

 

I used to have season tickets and sat near a guy named Charlie, a lawyer, who would criticize all game, every game, every season. He was a great guy and his constant pessimism cracked me up. It's just how he is. As long as people are following the forum rules, why can't we just let them be them and not try to make them be us?  

 

 

 

 

I enjoyed them years to.  Maybe I need to get off this stupid forum then.  My bad.  

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5 minutes ago, tfunky14 said:

I enjoyed them years to.  Maybe I need to get off this stupid forum then.  My bad.  

Nah, sorry. I was being a little dramatic myself. I'm hoping others will let people have their say, yet I was too harsh about what you were saying. I'm sorry for that. 

 

Glad you enjoyed the good and the bad. I really miss watching some of the bad old Colts with buddies and then watching the Colts finally become a winner. I hope we live to witness another resurgence. 

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3 hours ago, Creekside said:

 

I don't understand the formula they use.

 

They have the Colts ave. age at 25 years, 5 months, 6 days, which is the youngest of the 32 teams. But they slot the Colts at #23 oldest team and list 9 teams after the Colts, but the they are all older than the Colts.

Colts have the youngest average age of all 32 teams.  That makes them the youngest team I would say.

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5 hours ago, Yoshinator said:

It didn't age well, but unfortunately, the Texans took their spot and are the real deal now by drafted Stroud and being aggressive in FA, and the Colts are remaining stagnant by not making moves and hoping AR hits. It's the same thing as the last few years where a band-aid QB leads us to mediocrity. Unfortunately, now it's because our possible franchise QB is injury-prone.

The way I see it they were aggressive in FA but after six games I don’t think you could say they were successful.  Long way to go.  The Titans wee aggressive too with Ridley and Sneed.  FA doesn’t guarantee you anything.  Stroud looks like he could be a good player but we all thought that about Lawrence too.  The jury is still out for Stroud just like it’s still out for AR.

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4 hours ago, chad72 said:


Let’s first win the division, then we can talk. Its hard enough to win a SB after winning the division, so “what good does it do just to win the division” is a short sighted comment.

 

 I get it, you’re frustrated with this grievance thread and the Houston praise but we have to take off the blue colored glasses and admit the key to winning in the playoffs starts with winning the division MOST of the time.

 

Yes, with the right breaks, Houston might be able to sneak a win vs Chiefs or Baltimore but just not both in a row. Weird things can happen in football. Besides, Houston falling short versus those 2 doesn’t help the Colts sitting out of the playoffs feel better about themselves either. 
 

The next stretch of games after the Dolphins game will be put up or shut up time for the talent assembled on the Colts team.

But for me, its not even about winning the SB.....in any one year where there might be a break.

 

Its about having a perennial contender.  Sure, sometimes that looks like Division winner, sometimes you get a WC when the AFC is strong.   But I want a team where the conversation from offseason to January is chalked full of reasonable scenarios to expect a AFCCG appearance every year.  That is what KC, BAL, BUF, 49ers, usually DAL, and maybe a couple of others have.

 

Being the team that is perennially good enough to only fight for the third mathematical WC in an AFC that's full of 9-8 teams is a yawner of a team, IMO.  To some, that seems to mean that I'm a bad fan.

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19 hours ago, AKB said:

you ask for honesty. here is my opinion of the roster without considering past seasons. just strictly looking at this roster. 

 

QB - A project, 2nd year QB, who missed his entire rookie season. And who is again injured, basically in his rookie season 2.0 We likely either see one of two the ings. He starts protecting himself, or he's out of the league faster than Luck.

 

Flacco - is the QB we would've probably gone with if we couldn't get a young, rookie. Why do I say this? Becuase he did it for half a decade. 

 

RB - I wouldn't take a single back over Taylor outside of McCaffery. When you consider his recent injuries and unavailability as of late, there could be an argument for other backs like Kenneth Walker, or Barkley. With that being said, a healthy Taylor is a top-tier weapon. 

 

Offensive Line - despite the injuries to our starting center and RG, who by the way happened to be a7th  rounder steal, we still have a top 10, and arguably top 5 line (most rankings have the colts line rated as top 5), I want to see more out of Tucker, I have my worries about him long term. But even with that being said, We have very promising depth Between Bortolini, Gonclaves, and Freeland. I have never been more confident in our line, and this is certainly our best group since Castonazo retired. Berni is rated as the 3rd best TACKLE, not just LT, but tackle right now. The story is on X if you want to confirm. Then he followed it up and grabbed a swing tackle in freeland also in the third round. I am very confident in this offensive line. 

 

WR - probably our best group since Regg, hilton, and crief. not much explanation here. Pittman is a DOG. undeniable enforcer at WR1, we have our slot assassin, and our WR2 deep threat is leading our team in yards. We have our W 1- 3. AD I don't like him personally, due to his reluctance to catch certain balls, and his taking plays off mentality. I do believe this is something that reggie will eventually get to stop. If I had to pick a WR for the next 6 years, I'm taking all 3 of our other WRs over him. With that being said, we are talking about WR4 here. What a luxury. And don't forget dulin, who is capable in a pinch, and is a ST ace gunner. 

 

TE - I think the room is crowded with averageness. I think Mallory and Ogletree are the future there, but Cox did just have a good game. I would like to see a reduction in quantity and an improvement of quality at this position. I think Mallory is at least good enough to be a serviceable TE2, with a ceiling to develop into an average TE1, I think Ogletree will replace Cox. 

 

Defense

 

Corner is trash. next.

 

Dline - I said it before the season started, we desperately need a young promising DT. Both Grove and Buck are on the other side of their football careers, and as soon as one of them goes down it looks ugly. worst rushing defense essentially. I like 95, but he just isn't big enough in certain run scenarios. We had a plethora of ends and quickly dwindled after losing lewis and Ebukam. I think going into the season, it was the most loaded we've been at the position. I think we need another 3rd-5rh rounder at the position, but I am also okay with him finding FA budget talent since we primarily have our guys between dayo, PAYE, and Latu. 

 

Linebacker - I am actually pretty negative on this position overall. I think that a lot of the stat stuffing games that Z or Speed have is really due to our abysmal run defense. I think they both lack turnover ability, and I want to upgrade this position with an impact player. No doubt about it. Carlies shows promise. I'd rather see him on some downs compared to speed. Although EJ brings energy, he often doesn't quite wrap up when running downhill. 

 

Safety - we need true free safety, but Blackmon has been good. Cross proved everyone wrong, and we have our SS for the future. 

 

 

THIS !

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13 hours ago, bluephantom87 said:

 

Ahhh... NCF it's been awhile since we've locked horns on the legendary Chris Ballard and nothing has changed. Thanks for the backhand compliment but no hate just want the team to get back to contention. Your love for Ballard the gm is almost eerie especially if you consider his bare minimum results that haven't even produced an above .500 record overall.

 

This hasn't been a short term process either but one that's lasted nearly 8 long years of futility and to be honest the Colts aren't any closer to being anything of significance since Ballard accepted the job but I guess if the goal is to get excited that we rebounded from the loss against a winless Jag team only to beat a one win Titan team in a dog fight of a game then I'll pass. One thing I will promise you Chris (oops) I mean NCF is that I have no problem in giving credit based on a rising trajectory of contention for the team instead of simply praising when it's not earned or deserved and that's MY take so stick with yours.


 

I want to see a team that when it gets a legit QB takes them over the top. This team would need to be completely carried by an elite QB to contend. That’s not a good team. 

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4 hours ago, chad72 said:


Let’s first win the division, then we can talk. Its hard enough to win a SB after winning the division, so “what good does it do just to win the division” is a short sighted comment.

 

 I get it, you’re frustrated with this grievance thread and the Houston praise but we have to take off the blue colored glasses and admit the key to winning in the playoffs starts with winning the division MOST of the time.

 

Yes, with the right breaks, Houston might be able to sneak a win vs Chiefs or Baltimore but just not both in a row. Weird things can happen in football. Besides, Houston falling short versus those 2 doesn’t help the Colts sitting out of the playoffs feel better about themselves either. 
 

The next stretch of games after the Dolphins game will be put up or shut up time for the talent assembled on the Colts team.

That's fair enough.

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4 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

While true I think most colt fans are just tired of not seeing improvement each year. There doesn’t seem to be movement forward. I think that’s what most are upset about. Hopefully we will see growth from AR by the end of the season and finally feel we are ready to take the next step.

I think being 3-3 is pretty good so far considering all the injuries we have had. 

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