NewColtsFan Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 So I’m watching at my usual sports bar. The play happens. Tennessee returns the interception for what is called a touchdown. Celebration for the Titans. I use the break to go to the rest room. I come back and the Tenn TD has been taken away and it’s still Titans ball. I check the ESPN play-by-play link and it’s worthless. No explanation for why the TD was called off. So will anyone and everyone please explain to me what I missed and what I couldn’t get a good explanation for. And please keep it to the play and not the call by Steichen. That’s another topic that I’m happy to debate but I just want to focus on the context that has escaped me. Many, many thanks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holeymoley99 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 On a 2 pt conver. D can return it for a possible 2 points which is what happened. No idea why td was flashed on screen unless graphics person didnt know the rules 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 minute ago, NewColtsFan said: So I’m watching at my usual sports bar. The play happens. Tennessee returns the interception for what is called a touchdown. Celebration for the Titans. I use the break to go to the rest room. I come back and the Tenn TD has been taken away and it’s still Titans ball. I check the ESPN play-by-play link and it’s worthless. No explanation for why the TD was called off. So will anyone and everyone please explain to me what I missed and what I couldn’t get a good explanation for. And please keep it to the play and not the call by Steichen. That’s another topic that I’m happy to debate but I just want to focus on the context that has escaped me. Many, many thanks! You can’t score a TD on a returned extra point attempt. It’s by rule, a 2 point score for the defense 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate! Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 You don’t get a TD for taking it to the house for a two point conversion. Nobody can get a TD jn the play after scoring a touchdown. At most can score two points by making it to an end zone OR can get one point by successfully kicking it between the uprights 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w87r Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said: So I’m watching at my usual sports bar. The play happens. Tennessee returns the interception for what is called a touchdown. Celebration for the Titans. I use the break to go to the rest room. I come back and the Tenn TD has been taken away and it’s still Titans ball. I check the ESPN play-by-play link and it’s worthless. No explanation for why the TD was called off. So will anyone and everyone please explain to me what I missed and what I couldn’t get a good explanation for. And please keep it to the play and not the call by Steichen. That’s another topic that I’m happy to debate but I just want to focus on the context that has escaped me. Many, many thanks! It's just a 2pt conversion, not a TD. Then they get the ball back because they were about to after our TD. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 We went for 2 after going up 22-17 but got picked off. Titans returned it 100 yards, but it only counts for 2 points when that happens. What confused everyone was, it showed Titans up 23-22 afterword on the scoreboard like they scored a TD. That was an error. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLfan Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, w87r said: It's just a 2pt conversion, not a TD. Then they get the ball back because they were about to after our TD. On Red Zone, I believe Scott Hanson mistakenly called it a TD. That got me confused too. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restinpeacesweetchloe Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: We went for 2 after going up 22-17 but got picked off. Titans returned it 100 yards, but it only counts for 2 points when that happens. What confused everyone was, it showed Titans up 23-22 afterword on the scoreboard like they scored a TD. That was an error. Oh gosh. thought I was seeing things. Glad it really did say that and I wasn’t losing my mind. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w87r Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, NFLfan said: On Red Zone, I believe Scott Hanson mistakenly called it a TD. That got me confused too. I was to busy going To pay attention to what was being said or posted on the score graphic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, NFLfan said: On Red Zone, I believe Scott Hanson mistakenly called it a TD. That got me confused too. Nah it was just Vrabel trying to steal one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLfan Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, csmopar said: Nah it was just Vrabel trying to steal one Are you intimating that he has Belichick-ian practices? Seriously, Hanson was just repeating what he saw on the screen -- they showed that the Titans had scored a TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid84 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Not trying to hi-jack the thread here, but I have a follow up question. Say Team A wanted to kick an extra point. It hits the upright and gets caught by Team B in end zone without going out of bounds. Can it be returned for a TD? Or will that be just one point? Can it even be returned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 15 minutes ago, Solid84 said: Not trying to hi-jack the thread here, but I have a follow up question. Say Team A wanted to kick an extra point. It hits the upright and gets caught by Team B in end zone without going out of bounds. Can it be returned for a TD? Or will that be just one point? Can it even be returned? No. Same rule, any returned ball into the opposite end zone from an extra point attempt can only count as two points. Basically it’s like a safety 15 minutes ago, Solid84 said: Not trying to hi-jack the thread here, but I have a follow up question. Say Team A wanted to kick an extra point. It hits the upright and gets caught by Team B in end zone without going out of bounds. Can it be returned for a TD? Or will that be just one point? Can it even be returned? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerColt Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 As far as reasoning, we were trying to make it a 7 point game so they’d be forced to score a TD to tie us. It just so happens that it all worked out and we tied anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, NewColtsFan said: So I’m watching at my usual sports bar. The play happens. Tennessee returns the interception for what is called a touchdown. Celebration for the Titans. I use the break to go to the rest room. I come back and the Tenn TD has been taken away and it’s still Titans ball. I check the ESPN play-by-play link and it’s worthless. No explanation for why the TD was called off. So will anyone and everyone please explain to me what I missed and what I couldn’t get a good explanation for. And please keep it to the play and not the call by Steichen. That’s another topic that I’m happy to debate but I just want to focus on the context that has escaped me. Many, many thanks! How would it be a td on an extra point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB-ColtsFan Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 48 minutes ago, csmopar said: No. Same rule, any returned ball into the opposite end zone from an extra point attempt can only count as two points. Basically it’s like a safety Wait...if it was an extra point it would only count as one point, so wouldn't the return only be one point? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhawk Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Just now, MB-ColtsFan said: Wait...if it was an extra point it would only count as one point, so wouldn't the return only be one point? Yes unless they changed the rules lately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restinpeacesweetchloe Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 minute ago, MB-ColtsFan said: Wait...if it was an extra point it would only count as one point, so wouldn't the return only be one point? No it’s a td if it’s a blocked extra point returned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid84 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhawk Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said: No it’s a td if it’s a blocked extra point returned. No. A blocked FG would count as a TD. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Just now, hoosierhawk said: No. A blocked FG would count as a TD. Blocked fg yes, blocked extra point no 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB-ColtsFan Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 I just looked it up. According to Google, a blocked extra point returned for the defense is 2 points. I stand corrected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhawk Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Just now, MB-ColtsFan said: I just looked it up. According to Google, a blocked extra point returned for the defense is 2 points. I stand corrected. Guess I do also. Used to be 1 when I played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, MB-ColtsFan said: Wait...if it was an extra point it would only count as one point, so wouldn't the return only be one point? 8 minutes ago, hoosierhawk said: Yes unless they changed the rules lately. Nope… it’s basically considered a safety, even though it’s not called one. Google it 2 minutes ago, hoosierhawk said: Guess I do also. Used to be 1 when I played. It’s been worth 2 points FOREVER. At least a decade now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 13 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said: No it’s a td if it’s a blocked extra point returned. Wrong…. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhawk Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 18 minutes ago, csmopar said: Nope… it’s basically considered a safety, even though it’s not called one. Google it It’s been worth 2 points FOREVER. At least a decade now September 18 of 2016 I just read. NO blocked the first that counted for 2 pts against Carolina. According to that article prior to that when the team that blocked the Xtra pt recovered it was a dead ball. Actually think it was 2015 when rule was changed and NO was the 1st team to score 2 pts in Dec. of 2016 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, hoosierhawk said: September 18 of 2016 I just read. NO blocked the first that counted for 2 pts against Carolina. According to that article prior to that when the team that blocked the Xtra pt recovered it was a dead ball. Seems like it’s been longer. I seem to remember a playoff game being the catalyst for that discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 32 minutes ago, hoosierhawk said: Guess I do also. Used to be 1 when I played. You played in the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 Came home and crashed. Woke up to read all the responses. Many thanks to all who responded. Appreciate the good 411. Makes sense. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said: No it’s a td if it’s a blocked extra point returned. No, 2 points. Not a TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said: Came home and crashed. Woke up to read all the responses. Many thanks to all who responded. Appreciate the good 411. Makes sense. Yeah when that play happened, the scoreboard showed 23-22 Titans. I was about to freak out! . I was like did they change the rule, that is only 2 points. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indyfan4life Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Yeah I was really confused when it flashed touchdown across the screen. I started yelling at my computer “that’s not a damn touchdown!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerColt Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 14 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said: Came home and crashed. Woke up to read all the responses. Many thanks to all who responded. Appreciate the good 411. Makes sense. Hope you’re feeling well and enjoying less days of pain, my friend! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Indyfan4life said: Yeah I was really confused when it flashed touchdown across the screen. I started yelling at my computer “that’s not a damn touchdown!” I did the same thing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 Anyone have a recommendation for which thread to post a discussion about the quality of the call Steichen made on the 2-point conversion? Maybe there’s already a thread handling that? Recommendations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 3 hours ago, jvan1973 said: How would it be a td on an extra point? All I knew is that the broadcast called it a touchdown. I left for a few minutes and when I returned the TD was gone and I couldn’t find any kind of explanation anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 5 hours ago, NewColtsFan said: So I’m watching at my usual sports bar. The play happens. Tennessee returns the interception for what is called a touchdown. Celebration for the Titans. I use the break to go to the rest room. I come back and the Tenn TD has been taken away and it’s still Titans ball. I check the ESPN play-by-play link and it’s worthless. No explanation for why the TD was called off. So will anyone and everyone please explain to me what I missed and what I couldn’t get a good explanation for. And please keep it to the play and not the call by Steichen. That’s another topic that I’m happy to debate but I just want to focus on the context that has escaped me. Many, many thanks! You get two points for it not a touchdown. Kickoff like normal for the Colts after any score. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said: No it’s a td if it’s a blocked extra point returned. You can only get two points for any kind of return on a blocked point rather it’s a blocked kick, fumble, or INT. It’s considered a two point conversion for your team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerColt Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said: You can only get two points for any kind of return on a blocked point rather it’s a blocked kick, fumble, or INT. It’s considered a two point conversion for your team. Yep. I think it’s fair to guarantee it’s two points since it’s a heck of a feat to even do it. Mad props to the Titans special team unit on that play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 2 hours ago, NewColtsFan said: Anyone have a recommendation for which thread to post a discussion about the quality of the call Steichen made on the 2-point conversion? Maybe there’s already a thread handling that? Recommendations? Do we honestly need to second guess every single play call that ends badly for us? besides, it was actually the right call, the ball just was tipped. Not really a play call issue as much as a good play by the d 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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