Colts select QB Anthony Richardson Florida (merge)

[rockywoj]

Just now, krunk said:

I think 2 things. I think that they saw enough on film to be confident that he could be accurate with some tweaks on the short and intermediate throws.  And #2 this is primarily a Vertical offense based on the deep throws. Of which in that sense hes very accurate. 

Plus he’s just turning 21, so young with so much room to grow.  Most QBs coming into the league are older with at least a full year more experience.  The ceiling is so high.  Coaches gotta coach!

[Yoshinator]

Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Getting a RG that Richardson is familiar with would be a really good idea. Having someone  on the team that he has a relationship with can help with that transition.

Torrence has also played both LG and RG in college. RG last year with Richardson, so it would be a natural fit here with Richardson as the QB if we take him.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, Jared Cisneros said:

Torrence has also played both LG and RG in college. RG last year with Richardson, so it would be a natural fit here with Richardson as the QB if we take him.

He seems like a perfect fit for us and he and AR are friends.

[Yoshinator]

Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

He seems like a perfect fit for us and he and AR are friends.

Yep. Torrence is my top choice at 35 tonight. Hoping for the best!  

[DougDew]

40 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

For me, Ballard was on the hot seat regardless of what he did. 

 

Trading back and playing it safe only for the team to still fail would also net him an unemployment slip. 

 

Picking Will Levis and him failing would get him fired. 

 

Richardson failing could get him fired as well. 

 

I guess what I'm saying is if you know this is your last chance, why not take the big swing and gamble all the chips. If you lose, you lose and move on. But if you hit, you hit big. 

Agreed  The circumstances that Ballard is under is what drove the pick as much as AR being any sort of prospect.  When someone swings for the fences, it sometimes comes after the batter has seen the pitcher for 3 innings, and has a favorable pitch count, and its the right time to swing hard.

 

With AR having 13 starts, not having any consistent offense to have learned, and fundamentally flawed at this point; this pick looks more like a batter who knows that he has been overmatched by the competition, so he swings at the first pitch hoping to make home run contact.

 

Most of the other first round picks, and trades look like teams having a certain strategy and plan.  Ballard's pick sticks out as being purely hopeful and speculative.

[RollerColt]

17 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Reddit is one of the worst sources for football. 

Chock full of trolls. You can never get an actual answer to any questions in that place. 

[rockywoj]

I say go OG instead of CB because there are still some decent CBs available in free agency.  

[Stephen]

20 minutes ago, BlueShoe said:

Concealing and lying are 2 different things.

 

I know all about lying season and it’s not in the context that you’re using it. Respected coaches and front office folks don’t lie on the record, during lying season. They have other ways to put out false information. That’s what lying season is. 

 

Integrity is important to me. 
 

I’m not impressed with Steichen, as a person. He might be a gifted football mind. But honesty is so important. Players will follow an honest coach. They won’t follow a dishonest coach. 
 

Drafting Richardson was a good risk. His upside is tremendous. However, don’t say that accuracy is the most import trait a quarterback can have, and then draft a quarterback with a lot of accuracy issues. 
 

The lie was either said to be misleading (if so then it was not necessary), or Steichen didn’t honestly answer the question. Either way, it’s a red flag, and it should concern everyone. It certainly concerns me. 
 

I love the Colts, but I call balls and strikes. Some people on this board don’t like that. That’s not my problem. 

His deep ball accuracy is the best in the draft. He said he wants to throw to score. Would it not make sense to take the best deep ball thrower in the draft?

[RollerColt]

Just now, DougDew said:

Agreed  The circumstances that Ballard is under is what drove the pick as much as AR being any sort of prospect.  When someone swings for the fences, it sometimes comes after the batter has seen the pitcher for 3 innings, and has a favorable pitch count, and its the right time to swing hard.

 

With 13 starts and not having any consistent offense to have learned, this pick looks more like a batter who knows that he has been overmatched by the competition, so he swings at the first pitch hoping to make home run contact.

Yep. Waiting for "the right pitch" will only get you so far. 

 

This is our Adam Dunn moment. We either hit a homerun or strike out spectacularly. 

[Yoshinator]

1 minute ago, rockywoj said:

I say go OG instead of CB because there are still some decent CBs available in free agency.  

That, and it's a deep CB class, while it's a shallow interior O-Line class and the G's will be gone at 79.

Just now, RollerColt said:

Yep. Waiting for "the right pitch" will only get you so far. 

 

This is our Adam Dunn moment. We either hit a homerun or strike out spectacularly. 

Or the more modern Adam Dunn, Joey Gallo lol.

[NFLfan]

11 minutes ago, BProland85 said:

Richardson is the QB I wanted all along especially for this Steichen system where he helped make Hurts into a star. The difference is Richardson is SO much more talented than Hurts. 

 

That's great! He is very young and seems humble. You cannot reach athleticism!

[ChuggaBeer]

Dalton Kincade  for the Bills.    How does he compare to Jelani Woods    Those were the top TE's from the last 2 drafts 

[tweezy32]

4 minutes ago, Stephen said:

His deep ball accuracy is the best in the draft. He said he wants to throw to score. Would it not make sense to take the best deep ball thrower in the draft?

absolutely not, thats the easiest to defend lol

[Yoshinator]

Just now, ChuggaBeer said:

Dalton Kincade  for the Bills.    How does he compare to Jelani Woods    Those were the top TE's from the last 2 drafts 

Actually, Trey McBride was the top TE last year. He went in the 2nd.

[Stephen]

Just now, tweezy32 said:

absolutely not, thats the easiest to defend lol

Not when they are forced to play 1 on 1 due to his running ability

[ChuggaBeer]

1 minute ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Actually, Trey McBride was the top TE last year. He went in the 2nd.

 

Hmmm.  I guess you are right.   I thought for sure JW was the #1 TE. 

[NFLfan]

13 minutes ago, krunk said:

I think 2 things. I think that they saw enough on film to be confident that he could be accurate with some tweaks on the short and intermediate throws.  And #2 this is primarily a Vertical offense based on the deep throws. Of which in that sense hes very accurate. Overall its obvious to me they think what he lacks right now can be improved quite a bit in a reasonable time frame. And of course the talent was too great to pass up.

 

I think he would benefit from more WR help.

 

I wonder if the Colts would be interested in trading for Jalen Reagor. He may be a good it for Richardson. His dad played for the Colts. You can get him for a 6th or 7th round pick.

[Moosejawcolt]

56 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

What would you think of taking Michael Mayer at 35?

I like Washington.  He is a devastating blocker and can grow with Richardson 

[Yoshinator]

Just now, Moosejawcolt said:

I like Washington.  He is a devastating blocker and can grow with Richardson 

Yep. 6'8 blocking TE. Definitely could be devastating.

[Moosejawcolt]

Just now, NFLfan said:

 

I think he would benefit from more WR help.

 

I wonder if the Colts would be interested in trading for Jalen Reagor. He may be a good it for Richardson. His dad played for the Colts. You can get him for a 6th or 7th round pick.

I don't think Pittman fits this scheme. I was listening to Smith last night, who  is so honest and funny. He said based on  Richardson's skill set, the Colts need vertical receivers.

[2006Coltsbestever]

33 minutes ago, BlueShoe said:

Concealing and lying are 2 different things.

 

I know all about lying season and it’s not in the context that you’re using it. Respected coaches and front office folks don’t lie on the record, during lying season. They have other ways to put out false information. That’s what lying season is. 

 

Integrity is important to me. 
 

I’m not impressed with Steichen, as a person. He might be a gifted football mind. But honesty is so important. Players will follow an honest coach. They won’t follow a dishonest coach. 
 

Drafting Richardson was a good risk. His upside is tremendous. However, don’t say that accuracy is the most import trait a quarterback can have, and then draft a quarterback with a lot of accuracy issues. 
 

The lie was either said to be misleading (if so then it was not necessary), or Steichen didn’t honestly answer the question. Either way, it’s a red flag, and it should concern everyone. It certainly concerns me. 
 

I love the Colts, but I call balls and strikes. Some people on this board don’t like that. That’s not my problem. 

You are way looking into this way too much. All coaches lie and some even cheat (Belichick), we made the right draft pick so why not be happy. Some in here are never happy but that is not my problem. 

[stitches]

1 minute ago, Moosejawcolt said:

I like Washington.  He is a devastating blocker and can grow with Richardson 

If he grows 20-25 lbs more he might even be OT for Richardson  

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

With Taylor and Richardson it’s going to create so much more open field for WR and TE. I envision Woods wide open in the middle of the field.

[BlueShoe]

30 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

That's true.

 

Did he really say that?  Maybe he meant that in a particular context.

He said that, almost word for word. 

[BlueShoe]

27 minutes ago, BlackTiger said:

Hes young and they think he can get better.  Andrew Luck and Joe burrow threw under 60% their first year starting in college too.

 

Luck also lead the Colts to winning records and made the pro bowl throwing under 60% a couple years.  

 

% is important but they didnt say its absolutely everything.  AR had a weak supporting cast and coaching too

Completion percentage only somewhat tells the story. Some schemes promote a higher completion rate than others. His accuracy to put the football in the correct place, is the issue. 

[Moosejawcolt]

8 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Yep. 6'8 blocking TE. Definitely could be devastating.

I would go for him, a wr and guard

[BlueShoe]

21 minutes ago, Stephen said:

His deep ball accuracy is the best in the draft. He said he wants to throw to score. Would it not make sense to take the best deep ball thrower in the draft?

I disagree on his deep ball being accurate. Especially the most accurate in the draft class. 

[BlueShoe]

10 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

You are way looking into this way too much. All coaches lie and some even cheat (Belichick), we made the right draft pick so why not be happy. Some in here are never happy but that is not my problem. 

Find me one time Belichick has ever lied to the press. Good luck. 
 

He often evades questions. He can be very condescending. A lot of the press do not like him as a person. But he doesn’t lie to them. 

[ChuggaBeer]

4 minutes ago, BlueShoe said:

He said that, almost word for word. 

I think you are reading way too much into this.    I would say that SS was NOT lying when he talked about what he wanted in a QB   And he DOES want accuracy.  The thing with AR15 is he sees something that outweighs that accuracy and believes he can fix that accuracy.   

 

Besides What did you want him to say?   He wasn't going to come right out and say he wanted AR15   so another team had a chance to try to get ahead of us?

 

I think it was brilliant 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Hmmm, I might have to change my avatar during 2023! @stitches

 

[2006Coltsbestever]

9 minutes ago, BlueShoe said:

Find me one time Belichick has ever lied to the press. Good luck. 
 

He often evades questions. He can be very condescending. A lot of the press do not like him as a person. But he doesn’t lie to them. 

AR vs #7 Utah = 17-24, 71%, 0 TD's/0 INT's, 168 Yards, 106 Rush yards and 3 TD's. Florida won.

 

AR vs Tennessee = 24-44, 55%, 2 TD's/1 INT's, 453 yards, 62 Rush Yards and 1 TD. Florida lost but went toe to toe at Tennessee only losing 38-33 and Tennessee at one time was rated #1. AR threw for 453 yards against them.

 

Regarding your question, who cares if Shane lied, all coaches do it. I am not going to sit here and give you list everytime a coach has lied, it would be a list of 1000's of examples.  . You act like Shane is the only coach that lies, you are naive if you think that? 

 

Against great competition, AR was very good and his accuracy was good. 

[stitches]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Irrelevant said:

Hmmm, I might have to change my avatar during 2023! @stitches

 

I might wait for him to get in Colts uniform and for us to have some nice pics of him in it before I change my avatar. 

[NFLfan]

18 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:

I don't think Pittman fits this scheme. I was listening to Smith last night, who  is so honest and funny. He said based on  Richardson's skill set, the Colts need vertical receivers.

 

That is what I think.

 

I recall when the Vikes had Teddy -- the total opposite of Richardson -- we traded for a vertical receiver (Mike Wallace) and I could not understand why. He needed possession receivers and we should have kept Greg Jennings

 

Richardson would do well with a Mike Wallace type. Richardson reminds me a bit of Daunte Culpepper but much more athletically gifted than Pep. Richardson to a Randy Moss type would shatter TD records.

[BlueShoe]

7 minutes ago, ChuggaBeer said:

I think you are reading way too much into this.    I would say that SS was NOT lying when he talked about what he wanted in a QB   And he DOES want accuracy.  The thing with AR15 is he sees something that outweighs that accuracy and believes he can fix that accuracy.   

 

Besides What did you want him to say?   He wasn't going to come right out and say he wanted AR15   so another team had a chance to try to get ahead of us?

 

I think it was brilliant 

The was absolutely no reason for him to lie about it. It’s helped him zero. 
 

I never expect any GM to tell us who they are taking. That’s absurd. 
 

However, being honest is a very important trait. 

[NFLfan]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Irrelevant said:

Hmmm, I might have to change my avatar during 2023! @stitches

 

 

You did not join us during the draft. Were you pleased with the selection?

[Mr. Irrelevant]

3 minutes ago, stitches said:

I might wait for him to get in Colts uniform and for us to have some nice pics of him in it before I change my avatar. 

Yep... If you see my current avatar, my comment was also more about me starting to let go of the past and embrace the future! 

[Dingus McGirt]

2 minutes ago, BlueShoe said:

The was absolutely no reason for him to lie about it. It’s helped him zero. 
 

I never expect any GM to tell us who they are taking. That’s absurd. 
 

However, being honest is a very important trait. 

He lied?  Saying accuracy is important, then taking a young QB who needs work on his accuracy, doesn't mean he lied.  Accusing a person of being a liar is pretty strong stuff.  Would you call him one to his face?

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Just now, NFLfan said:

 

You did not join us during the draft. Were you pleased with the selection?

Elevated and relieved!

 

Believe or not, I actually woke up in the middle of the night (here) like a few minutes after the pick was in, kinda crazy. You can see my comments on the first page of this thread! 

[csmopar]

1 hour ago, krunk said:

Do we play Carolina this year?

No idea. But I feel like the media crucified the Colts to include Irsay and Ballard for us firing Reich. They put the blame on the roster and the owner when anyone that actually paid attention could see that Reich has been over his head in play calling for YEARS now. When you have a Guard have to remind the HC to run the ball or not to be one dimensional, that’s on the coach.

 

personnel usage in game, on the HC. 
 

This all really showed up after Nick bolted for the Eagles. I think Nick covered Reichs mistakes and short comings for the most part, which is not bad, that’s what a team does, but once that tandem was broken, the Reich system fell apart even more. Lack of game planning, execution etc.

 

Reich is a nice guy and i hate to see him fail in Carolina, but when he does, it will be clear to anyone that he was the problem all along here in Indy 

[stitches]

Just now, Mr. Irrelevant said:

Yep... If you see my current avatar, my comment was also more about me starting to let go of the past and embrace the future! 

Yeah, Luck was amazing, but it's time for us to move on.

 

Did you snooze your alarm last night? Or did you just decide to take a goodnight sleep instead of torture yourself waking up in middle of the night? 

For a while it was a true torture I tell you. I didn't think I would mind it that much if we took Levis but just before the draft started all the betting sportsbooks posted insane odds for Levis to go no. 4(-2000) and I was in despair.  I guess at least I now know for sure what my feelings would have been if it was going to be Levis...