Chris Ballard Pre-Draft Presser 4/20/18

[Nadine]

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[shasta519]

On 4/20/2018 at 5:01 PM, stitches said:

This is a brutal draft. Trade up for Courtland Sutton with Josh Jackson, Isaiah Wynn, Will Hernandez, Isaiah Oliver, Josh Sweat, Maurice Hurst still on the board.... and then go James Washington, Marcel Ateman and a QB in rounds 3-6. Just brutal! So 3 WRs(one of them traded up for) and a QB... 

 

And that trade up for Sutton was with NE of all teams. It sort of feels like this a troll job to Colts fans.

[Defjamz26]

21 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

I love Vea....

 

But he's enormous and the Colts are trying to build a defense built in speed.

 

i don't think he fits what we want to do....

 

 

Vea is plenty fast for his size. I think he could be one of those 8 because of how important the trenches are to Ballard.

[Finball]

4 hours ago, TKnight24 said:

Loved Minkah at Alabama...... now scared of Minkah heading into the NFL due to the history of Alabama secondary players being busts when they enter the league 

 

Only 2 I can say worked out in recent years are Landon & HaHa 

 

 

I'm not that worried about that. Humphrey looked pretty good. Milliner was a bust but his career was ruined by injuries. Hard to say how much of that was genetic and how much for being groomed under Sabans strict and grueling regime.

 

Barron was a bust at safery but solid LB. Kirkpatrick is solid CB with couple of very good years (but couple pretty bad). Kareem Jackson has had a good career.

[NewColtsFan]

21 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

Vea is plenty fast for his size. I think he could be one of those 8 because of how important the trenches are to Ballard.

 

21 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

Vea is plenty fast for his size. I think he could be one of those 8 because of how important the trenches are to Ballard.

 

Fast for his size --- yes.   But it's not clear he's fast enough for what we want to run.

 

I think the 3-tech that us made for this defense is..   Maurice Hurst of Michigan.   I hope he lasts until our picks in the 2nd round and I hope we take him....

 

[aReggie7]

4 hours ago, TKnight24 said:

Loved Minkah at Alabama...... now scared of Minkah heading into the NFL due to the history of Alabama secondary players being busts when they enter the league 

 

Only 2 I can say worked out in recent years are Landon & HaHa 

 

I’d pass on Minkah if I was CB. I'd take Denzel & Josh Jackson before Minkah assuming he’d play corner for us. If he’d play safety I’d take Derwin

 

I should have specified that i'd put Minkah in that group assuming he would play safety.

 

I wouldn't complain about Derwin though either. Although I thought he had a big red flag, maybe around medicals, but I could be wrong on that.

 

 

[shasta519]

28 minutes ago, Finball said:

 

I'm not that worried about that. Humphrey looked pretty good. Milliner was a bust but his career was ruined by injuries. Hard to say how much of that was genetic and how much for being groomed under Sabans strict and grueling regime.

 

Barron was a bust at safery but solid LB. Kirkpatrick is solid CB with couple of very good years (but couple pretty bad). Kareem Jackson has had a good career.

 

Landon Collins as well

[aReggie7]

18 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

 

Fast for his size --- yes.   But it's not clear he's fast enough for what we want to run.

 

I think the 3-tech that us made for this defense is..   Maurice Hurst of Michigan.   I hope he lasts until our picks in the 2nd round and I hope we take him....

 

 

Good call on Hurst. He would be a perfect addition to this defense.

 

He was sent home early from the combine due to some type of heart condition. Everything I have read says that he has been cleared. This could impact him being taken in the first round.

[TKnight24]

On 4/20/2018 at 8:07 PM, coltsfeva said:

  I don’t know why, but I’m not crazy about Bucky Brooks. He just seems a little arrogant to me.

 

On 4/21/2018 at 11:07 AM, Lucky Colts Fan said:

 

You're defending the indefensible to disagree with someones' opinion... 

 

The NFL can afford to get it right.  The NFL can afford to triple-check, no quadruple-check to make sure it gets it right.  They can afford no mistakes.

 

They can afford legitimate bonafide broadcasters to be the face of the NFL Network.  But they hire cheap hacks that just want to goof around on set and former players that harass their stylist to be the face of their network. 

 

NFL Network has become ridiculous.  The only thing worth watching anymore is the Top 10 shows.  But that's just my opinion. 

I love this Fake Andrew Luck account. This one &a the Captain Luck one are great 

 

 

 

Like I said man, this is my issue with these folks. Casual fan gets their info from these analysts. Who really believes Colin Kapernick is better than Andrew Luck? 

[Deadpool]

On 4/20/2018 at 9:22 AM, Four2itus said:

Yet, he said 2 QB's and we still get a player at 6. Many here seem to think if only two are taken...there is not a player worth taking at 6.; 

there is players worth taking at 6, but it is probably worth it more to move back and get more picks. BUT i still believe if Nelson is still there at 6, we take him. 

[crazycolt1]

34 minutes ago, Deadpool said:

there is players worth taking at 6, but it is probably worth it more to move back and get more picks. BUT i still believe if Nelson is still there at 6, we take him. 

IMO, More picks is not better than getting an impact player early in the draft. If Barkley or Chubb is there you have to take him.

Nelson would be a great pick but as deep as draft is in offensive linemen maybe taking Edmunds or Smith is there go ahead a take one of them. This fans opinions of who might be drafted to early is pure nonsense when you are talking about Edmunds or Smith.

[richard pallo]

1 hour ago, TKnight24 said:

 

I love this Fake Andrew Luck account. This one &a the Captain Luck one are great 

 

 

 

Like I said man, this is my issue with these folks. Casual fan gets their info from these analysts. Who really believes Colin Kapernick is better than Andrew Luck? 

Maybe that's why he no longer works as a scout.  He had to many misses. 

[Defjamz26]

1 hour ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

 

Fast for his size --- yes.   But it's not clear he's fast enough for what we want to run.

 

I think the 3-tech that us made for this defense is..   Maurice Hurst of Michigan.   I hope he lasts until our picks in the 2nd round and I hope we take him....

 

Yes I have my eyes on Hurst as well. I’ve heard the knock is that he only fits 4-3 upfield teams. Just so happens that’s exactly what we’re looking for. After him I like B.J. Hill.

[NewColtsFan]

1 hour ago, ar7 said:

 

Good call on Hurst. He would be a perfect addition to this defense.

 

He was sent home early from the combine due to some type of heart condition. Everything I have read says that he has been cleared. This could impact him being taken in the first round.

 

Thanks...   there are a number of issues that are very encouraging for Hurst...

 

He's been cleared by two different medical teams...   AND the NFL also runs a late medical re-check in Mid-April...   about two weeks ago to update any player with health issues.....    and.....

 

Hurst was NOT asked back to attend and be re-checked.    So the NFL docs have looked at the latest medical reports and signed off on them.   

 

That's a great sign for Hurst.

 

But he's still viewed as under-sized and won't be a fit for most defenses...    but I think he fits the Colts to perfection...

 

I'm hoping....

 

[NewColtsFan]

16 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

Maybe that's why he no longer works as a scout.  He had to many misses. 

Every scout has missed....   it's the nature of the job...

 

But Buckley likely makes 2-3 times more doing what he's doing now for doing probably half the work.   Same with Jeremiah.   TV pays far more than scouting.

 

[richard pallo]

9 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

Every scout has missed....   it's the nature of the job...

 

But Buckley likely makes 2-3 times more doing what he's doing now for doing probably half the work.   Same with Jeremiah.   TV pays far more than scouting.

 

They both probably realized they weren't GM material and got out in time to make a career switch.  They probably make a decent living but GM's make the big money.  I'm sure they are happy.  

[NewColtsFan]

2 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

They both probably realized they weren't GM material and got out in time to make a career switch.  They probably make a decent living but GM's make the big money.  I'm sure they are happy.  

 

There are hundreds and hundreds of scouts....    but, obviously, just 32 GM jobs.

 

Both Jeremiah and Brooks get to live in sunny So Cal...  there's no travel unless they want to...   there are no fans screaming for them to be fired...  

 

For them, life is good!

 

[southwest1]

On April 20, 2018 at 8:00 AM, TKnight24 said:

Here’s the full video courtesy of YouTube  

 

 

Watching this clip in it's entirety really makes me appreciate Ballard's professionalism. I get some level of comic banter with the birthday jingle & making the rounds on TV as the draft approaches & all, but that has to get old quick--The frat house wackiness & reporters grilling you at every turn for some kernel of click bait headline material online. 

 

Chris wasn't phased at all & he gave them nest to nothing. The man's got skills what can I say. 

 

Thanks TK for finding the whole interview for context. You man! 

[Dark Superman]

If Ballard takes Smith or Ward at 6 I'm done.

[NewColtsFan]

48 minutes ago, DarkSuperman said:

If Ballard takes Smith or Ward at 6 I'm done.

 

Don't be surprised if you're done...

 

Smith is a likely target.   I wouldn't sweat Ward...

 

I'm not guaranteeing anything ...   but Smith is as likely as anyone...    and we may not be able to trade back and still get him...   

 

For what it's worth...  most everyone mocks us with Smith, even at the 6th spot...  and no one says he's not worthy of the 6th spot..   no one says too early...

 

If it turns out to be Smith, there's no reason to be done...

 

[Deadpool]

On 4/22/2018 at 2:38 PM, crazycolt1 said:

IMO, More picks is not better than getting an impact player early in the draft. If Barkley or Chubb is there you have to take him.

Nelson would be a great pick but as deep as draft is in offensive linemen maybe taking Edmunds or Smith is there go ahead a take one of them. This fans opinions of who might be drafted to early is pure nonsense when you are talking about Edmunds or Smith.

Well by your opinion of how deep in offensive lineman there are this year, same could be said for edge rushers and running backs. Even Ballard was quoted in saying he likes this years class of edge rushers and he feels he can get one in the 2nd round. Same goes with Running Backs. So trade back, get more picks that may or may not include picks in next years draft. You could trade back to 11 or 12 and get Smith and or possibly Edmunds while also getting extra picks. 

[crazycolt1]

2 hours ago, Deadpool said:

Well by your opinion of how deep in offensive lineman there are this year, same could be said for edge rushers and running backs. Even Ballard was quoted in saying he likes this years class of edge rushers and he feels he can get one in the 2nd round. Same goes with Running Backs. So trade back, get more picks that may or may not include picks in next years draft. You could trade back to 11 or 12 and get Smith and or possibly Edmunds while also getting extra picks. 

But no matter how deep this draft is at any position there are only so many impact players and those fall in the top 10 picks.

[Four2itus]

19 hours ago, DarkSuperman said:

If Ballard takes Smith or Ward at 6 I'm done.

I have seen dozens of statements like this over the years. You would be the first to actually stay true to your promise if you were truly "done". For your sake, I hope that pick doesn't happen. 

[Deadpool]

On 4/22/2018 at 2:38 PM, crazycolt1 said:

IMO, More picks is not better than getting an impact player early in the draft. If Barkley or Chubb is there you have to take him.

Nelson would be a great pick but as deep as draft is in offensive linemen maybe taking Edmunds or Smith is there go ahead a take one of them. This fans opinions of who might be drafted to early is pure nonsense when you are talking about Edmunds or Smith.

 

11 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

But no matter how deep this draft is at any position there are only so many impact players and those fall in the top 10 picks.

 

Then you just contradicted yourself. Because as you stated Nelson would be a great pick but as deep as the draft is on offensive linemen, maybe taking Edmunds or smith is there go ahead and take one of them. Now you're saying no matter how deep this draft is at any position there are only so many impact players that fall in the top 10. Nelson is projected top 5 pick, who could have a very big impact on that offensive line and team, not to mention keeping Luck off his back 90% of the game and worst of all keeping him from getting injured. 

[LJpalmbeacher2]

On 4/22/2018 at 1:58 PM, Defjamz26 said:

Vea is plenty fast for his size. I think he could be one of those 8 because of how important the trenches are to Ballard.

Yes.... Vea is a Beast.

[krunk]

I was saying no on Vita Vea at first because I thought he was more like Danny Shelton or Hankins.  However when you put on the film he moves really well and collapses the pocket.

[crazycolt1]

2 hours ago, Deadpool said:

 

 

Then you just contradicted yourself. Because as you stated Nelson would be a great pick but as deep as the draft is on offensive linemen, maybe taking Edmunds or smith is there go ahead and take one of them. Now you're saying no matter how deep this draft is at any position there are only so many impact players that fall in the top 10. Nelson is projected top 5 pick, who could have a very big impact on that offensive line and team, not to mention keeping Luck off his back 90% of the game and worst of all keeping him from getting injured. 

The impact of having a pass rush or great linebacker play would be more because those players are not as common as an offensive guard.

Basic football 101.

[Deadpool]

5 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

The impact of having a pass rush or great linebacker play would be more because those players are not as common as an offensive guard.

Basic football 101.

guess we will have to agree to disagree