Jarrad Davis - Florida LB

[colts2dasuperbowl]

 

Here is the link.

 

If he falls to us in the 2nd round, do we pick him?

Davis or Mckinney?

your thoughts?

 

[tweezy32]

Looks to me he is injury prone from watching the beginning of the video. Seemed like he was hurt a lot

[colts2dasuperbowl]

7 minutes ago, tweezy32 said:

Looks to me he is injury prone from watching the beginning of the video. Seemed like he was hurt a lot

 

I think he was injured in 2014 missed the last 3 games.

 

[Andrew Luck fan club]

In the 2nd hell yes.

[Boiler_Colt]

Ive liked him since last year, I dont think he'll make it to the 2nd round. I thought I saw that McShay had him as the #14 overall player on his board.

[krunk]

very good player

[Andrew Luck fan club]

2 hours ago, Boiler_Colt said:

Ive liked him since last year, I dont think he'll make it to the 2nd round. I thought I saw that McShay had him as the #14 overall player on his board.

Who would you take: Reuben, Jarrad, or Cunningham?

[JRnINDY]

Davis would be a steal in the 2nd. He might be the best ILB of the draft and would have been a first rounder last year but stayed in school.

[Boiler_Colt]

9 minutes ago, 12to13 said:

Who would you take: Reuben, Jarrad, or Cunningham?

Probably in the exact order you have them listed.

[MPStack]

2 hours ago, 12to13 said:

Who would you take: Reuben, Jarrad, or Cunningham?

Probably in the order listed, but I not that high on Cunningham. He is not a thumper like the Rueben and Davis. The Colts need more players up front that lay the smack down on people.

[Andrew Luck fan club]

7 hours ago, MPStack said:

Probably in the order listed, but I not that high on Cunningham. He is not a thumper like the Rueben and Davis. The Colts need more players up front that lay the smack down on people.

Noooo. That's the ONLY kind of ILBs we've had since Luck got here. Time to get one that knows how to COVER.

We need a shazier/kuechly type LB.

[BCoop]

17 minutes ago, 12to13 said:

Noooo. That's the ONLY kind of ILBs we've had since Luck got here. Time to get one that knows how to COVER.

We need a shazier/kuechly type LB.

 

It's not an either/or proposition. Foster and Davis are LB's that can be a force in the run game and in coverage. 

 

All we've had are slow LB's that can't cover and can only stop the run moderately well. Huge difference.

[BCoop]

9 hours ago, Boiler_Colt said:

Probably in the exact order you have them listed.

 

I'd slide McMillan in above Cunningham as well.

[Andrew Luck fan club]

3 minutes ago, BCoop said:

 

It's not an either/or proposition. Foster and Davis are LB's that can be a force in the run game and in coverage. 

 

All we've had are slow LB's that can't cover and can only stop the run moderately well. Huge difference.

I just said that all we've had are slow LBs. And we need fast onest that can cover? 

[Andrew Luck fan club]

3 minutes ago, BCoop said:

 

I'd slide McMillan in above Cunningham as well.

A thumper over a cover LB? That sounds like we're getting killed through the middle for the 4th year in a row..

[BCoop]

1 minute ago, 12to13 said:

I just said that all we've had are slow LBs. And we need fast onest that can cover? 

 

You objected to Foster/Davis by insinuating they were the same type of LB we've had the past couple years that couldn't cover. 

 

Just because they are "thumpers" in the run game doesn't mean they can't cover. Foster, Davis, and McMillan are all strong defenders in the passing game.

 

Cunningham is a long way off from being a fixture at ILB in a 3-4 defense.

[BCoop]

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[jameszeigler834]

9 hours ago, 12to13 said:

Who would you take: Reuben, Jarrad, or Cunningham?

I would take Reuben Foster.

[Andrew Luck fan club]

10 minutes ago, BCoop said:

 

You objected to Foster/Davis by insinuating they were the same type of LB we've had the past couple years that couldn't cover. 

 

Just because they are "thumpers" in the run game doesn't mean they can't cover. Foster, Davis, and McMillan are all strong defenders in the passing game.

 

Cunningham is a long way off from being a fixture at ILB in a 3-4 defense.

Ohh no brotha. I'm saying all we've had are "thumpers" and I want foster/Davis! I either wrote my post in a weird way or you read it wrong. I like Cunningham more than mcmillan just because he seems to be better at coverage(we already have morrison)

[Andrew Luck fan club]

8 minutes ago, jameszeigler834 said:

I would take Reuben Foster.

I would be ecstatic if the Colts take him in the 1st. Honestly there's going to be a couple really good defenders available in the 1st.. it's exciting.

[WarGhost21]

9 hours ago, 12to13 said:

Who would you take: Reuben, Jarrad, or Cunningham?

I'm going to stray from the pack and say Rueben, Cunningham, Jarrad. Cunningham may not be the "Thumper" the other two are, but he led the SEC in tackles this season, so it's not like he is a liability there. The reason I'm so high on Cunningham is that from the tape I've seen the best comparison for his coverage ability in today's NFL is Luke Keuchly. He's a special defender against the pass. Thumpers come about every year in the draft, so we could easily grab one later in the draft or in next years draft. That coverage ability is something else though.

[BCoop]

Just now, 12to13 said:

Ohh no brotha. I'm saying all we've had are "thumpers" and I want foster/Davis! I either wrote my post in a weird way or you read it wrong. I like Cunningham more than mcmillan just because he seems to be better at coverage(we already have morrison)

 

I gotcha. That's my mistake then. I read your first post wrong.

 

In that case, I do agree that Cunningham would be better than McMillan from a coverage perspective day 1. I'm not sold on his ability to stop the run at this point though. He has some issues with his tackling form and angles he takes to the ball.

 

I'm hoping none of this matters and Foster falls to 15. He's been 3rd on my board behind Garrett/Allen for a while now.

[Andrew Luck fan club]

Just now, WarGhost21 said:

I'm going to stray from the pack and say Rueben, Cunningham, Jarrad. Cunningham may not be the "Thumper" the other two are, but he led the SEC in tackles this season, so it's not like he is a liability there. The reason I'm so high on Cunningham is that from the tape I've seen the best comparison for his coverage ability in today's NFL is Luke Keuchly. He's a special defender against the pass. Thumpers come about every year in the draft, so we could easily grab one later in the draft or in next years draft. That coverage ability is something else though.

I agree sir. But I would be happy with any of them! I think they can all be playmakers, and it's definitely a position of need. Dq's gotta go.

[Andrew Luck fan club]

1 minute ago, BCoop said:

 

I gotcha. That's my mistake then. I read your first post wrong.

 

In that case, I do agree that Cunningham would be better than McMillan from a coverage perspective day 1. I'm not sold on his ability to stop the run at this point though. He has some issues with his tackling form and angles he takes to the ball.

 

I'm hoping none of this matters and Foster falls to 15. He's been 3rd on my board behind Garrett/Allen for a while now.

No problem man. We definitely agree.

[SP_21]

1 hour ago, BCoop said:

 

I gotcha. That's my mistake then. I read your first post wrong.

 

In that case, I do agree that Cunningham would be better than McMillan from a coverage perspective day 1. I'm not sold on his ability to stop the run at this point though. He has some issues with his tackling form and angles he takes to the ball.

 

I'm hoping none of this matters and Foster falls to 15. He's been 3rd on my board behind Garrett/Allen for a while now.

Cunningham is a run stopper. That's what he's best at...

 

Not sure why people think he's an awesome coverage linebacker. He's athletic enough to become one but definitely isn't right now. 

[Defjamz26]

I like Davis as well but if it comes down to it in the second round, I'd take McMillian. He's just as good but he's also 2 inches taller and might match up better against TE. I've seen Davis' tape and he's pretty good in coverage, but I just prefer McMillian because he's a little bigger and gives you more versatility. Plus I think he'll test slighty better than Davis. McMillian looks like 4.6-4.7 guy whereas Davis looks like a 4.75-4.80 guy.

[SP_21]

53 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

I like Davis as well but if it comes down to it in the second round, I'd take McMillian. He's just as good but he's also 2 inches taller and might match up better against TE. I've seen Davis' tape and he's pretty good in coverage, but I just prefer McMillian because he's a little bigger and gives you more versatility. Plus I think he'll test slighty better than Davis. McMillian looks like 4.6-4.7 guy whereas Davis looks like a 4.75-4.80 guy.

McMillian is surprisingly athletic for a guy that's like 250 pounds. He was all over the field VS Clemson. I had almost written him off but his play, determination, and heart that game forced me to take a look at him. 

[Defjamz26]

2 minutes ago, SP_21 said:

McMillian is surprisingly athletic for a guy that's like 250 pounds. He was all over the field VS Clemson. I had almost written him off but his play, determination, and heart that game forced me to take a look at him. 

Watch him against Penn State. A few times he's 1 on 1 with Saquan Barkley (who is the best RB for the 2018 class IMO) in coverage and he holds up nicely, including knocking down a pass going to Barkley in the end zone. He's really underrated.

[colts2dasuperbowl]

1 hour ago, SP_21 said:

McMillian is surprisingly athletic for a guy that's like 250 pounds. He was all over the field VS Clemson. I had almost written him off but his play, determination, and heart that game forced me to take a look at him. 

He looks good but I just see him more of a 3rd round guy. I gotta admit that I'm little bias over Ohio State players. For some reason they all look bit slow in my eyes. 

[MasterCrief]

I've been seeing Davis mocked towards the tail end of the 1st lately, so I'm not confident that he'll be there for us to take in the second. If he is there, though, he's the exact type of player we need at ILB. Good against the run, but more importantly he's a great athlete and very good in coverage, which is something that we just don't have right now.

[Andrew Luck fan club]

Everything I've read points to Cunningham being better in coverage over McMillan.  And McMillan possibly falling to the 3rd or 4th. Davis will indefinitely go in the 1st or 2nd.

[Archer]

If we can't get Reuben Foster in the 1st (which I don't think we can), I have us trading down into the twenties to select Davis.  Absolutely elite leadership qualities, and on the field he's a slightly less athletic Foster.  I hope he's starting next to Edwin next year...

[krunk]

16 hours ago, Archer said:

If we can't get Reuben Foster in the 1st (which I don't think we can), I have us trading down into the twenties to select Davis.  Absolutely elite leadership qualities, and on the field he's a slightly less athletic Foster.  I hope he's starting next to Edwin next year...

That ain't too bad either.  Jarrad and picking up some additional picks.

[Andrew Luck fan club]

Watching tape and this guy is just amazing.

[NewColtsFan]

On 1/9/2017 at 8:36 PM, Majin Vegeta said:

Who would you take: Reuben, Jarrad, or Cunningham?

 

Foster.

 

[Andrew Luck fan club]

15 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

Foster.

 

Kind of a dumb question lol. Foster will most likely be gone by #15 though, unfortunately. 

[NewColtsFan]

18 minutes ago, Majin Vegeta said:

Kind of a dumb question lol. Foster will most likely be gone by #15 though, unfortunately. 

 

Not a dumb question at all.....

 

I don't think it's a lock that he's gone,  but I'd phrase it more likely than not that he's taken.

 

Some think he's a top-5 player....     many thinks he's a top-10 player....    and most everyone thinks he's a top-15.      So, I think it's highly likely that he's taken before we get the chance....  

 

 

[dgambill]

14 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

Not a dumb question at all.....

 

I don't think it's a lock that he's gone,  but I'd phrase it more likely than not that he's taken.

 

Some think he's a top-5 player....     many thinks he's a top-10 player....    and most everyone thinks he's a top-15.      So, I think it's highly likely that he's taken before we get the chance....  

 

 

I don't see Foster getting by Cincinnati at 9...unless something pops up between now and draft day but if he does he still has to get by the Saints who also have needs at LB. I believe the highest he might go would be Tennessee at 5 (although they may look at cb or wr those needs could be met later in rd 1 and 2) but the lowest should be us at 15. Hard to say how things play out but that kid is a side line to side line tackling machine that can also step up into the hole and lay a lick on someone. I would be thrilled to watch someone like him running all over the field making plays. We really have never had that kind of LB in about 20 years.