New England @ Arizona

[2006Coltsbestever]

5 minutes ago, buffalo34 said:

So what if the Patriots go 4-0 in this stretch? Does it validate the argument that it's not so much the QB, but the coaching and the system?

They will still defend Brady to their death and Brady is Great but Peyton is better IMO. Peyton went to the SB with 4 different Coaches. If you can win it all with Kubiak playing at not even close to your best then that says it all. I still think Montana is #1 all-time but Peyton is probably #2 because he wins in any system, Brady is Top 5 though as he is very clutch and has great Football IQ .

[Jules]

2 minutes ago, buffalo34 said:

 

Heck, in 2011 I was cheering for the Colts to go 0-16 without Peyton so I could say he was literally worth every single win to that franchise.....was pretty close to that.

 

Patriots on the other hand look just fine, their next three opponents are all at home and are all weaker than Arizona, and in 2008, they lost Brady on the first game and was still in playoff contention (although in fairness, they had a very easy schedule and practically the same offense from the prior year that set records). Only missed the playoffs due to like a 4th or 5th tiebreaker.

 

I think NE might have some battles with Miami and Houston.

 

Maybe not Buffalo if they show up and play like they did today on offense.

[jvan1973]

janeane garofalo is a better qb than she is an actress

[Gramz]

8 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

Imagine if we had the hoodie the last 18 years

I might have actually liked him then.    As it stands, my fantasy fb  team name

 is  Lady Anti-belichick.  

[Jules]

OK this isn't over. But, my faith in Jimmy G is higher then Palmer.

[BloodyChamp]

What a throw. Palmer's knees and head aren't as tough as they used to be but his gnads are iron.

[Jules]

Just now, BloodyChamp said:

What a throw. Palmer's knees and head aren't as tough as they used to be but his gnads are iron.

 

Ever since the NFCCG I can't stand Palmer at times. That was a Jake Delhomme 2008 style performance for the ages.

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, Gramz said:

I might have actually liked him then.    As it stands, my fantasy team name

 is  Lady Anti-belichick.  

If Peyton had Belichick I honestly think the Colts would've shattered every record ever as in winning SB's. We would've had a Bulls type dynasty like Phil had with Jordan.

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

1 minute ago, BloodyChamp said:

What a throw. Palmer's knees and head aren't as tough as they used to be but his gnads are iron.

"But his gnads are iron"

 

That is why I love this forum 

[snkdy]

It's frustrating and impressive that NE can still perform like this without their two best players. 

[BloodyChamp]

Just now, Jules said:

 

Ever since the NFCCG I can't stand Palmer at times. That was a Jake Delhomme 2008 style performance for the ages.

 

I still say that wasn't all him but we've done that to death on here lol go Cards.

[Coltsman1788]

3 minutes ago, buffalo34 said:

 

Heck, in 2011 I was cheering for the Colts to go 0-16 without Peyton.....was pretty close to that.

 

Patriots on the other hand look just fine, their next three opponents are all at home and are all weaker than Arizona, and in 2008, they lost Brady on the first game and was still in playoff contention (although in fairness, they had a very easy schedule and practically the same offense from the prior year that set records). Only missed the playoffs due to like a 4th or 5th tiebreaker.

Sadly...the Colts are a franchise QB oriented team without much else.  Pats are a team with with a real coach who knows football and how to maximize talent.  Brady has benefited greatly from that but he will be efficiently replaced by Belichick when the time comes and they won't miss a beat.  Sucks for your division and the rest of the AFC.  

[jvan1973]

2 minutes ago, Coltsman1788 said:

Sadly...the Colts are a franchise QB oriented team without much else.  Pats are a team with with a real coach who knows football and how to maximize talent.  Brady has benefited greatly from that but he will be efficiently replaced by Belichick when the time comes and they won't miss a beat.  Sucks for your division and the rest of the AFC.  

I would bet belichick retires the same time Brady does

[2006Coltsbestever]

4 minutes ago, Coltsman1788 said:

Sadly...the Colts are a franchise QB oriented team without much else.  Pats are a team with with a real coach who knows football and how to maximize talent.  Brady has benefited greatly from that but he will be efficiently replaced by Belichick when the time comes and they won't miss a beat.  Sucks for your division and the rest of the AFC.  

Just think if we go 6-10 this season Irsay may fire our Coach and GM and if Michigan wins the National Title Harbaugh might leave Michigan = mission accomplished. Then Irsay can give Harbaugh the key to Indy to build our Defense and Coach Andrew like he did at Stanford.

[jvan1973]

1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Just think if we go 6-10 this season Irsay may fire our Coach and GM and if Michigan wins the National Title Harbaugh might leave Michigan = mission accomplished. Then Irsay can give Harbaugh the key to Indy to build our Defense and Coach Andrew like he did at Stanford.

That isn't happening.  

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, jvan1973 said:

That isn't happening.  

I know  I love Harbaugh though. I still hope we can go 10-6 like I predicted. We need to beat Denver now though, no room for error after losing today.

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT! Why don't the Pats just die already 

[Coltsman1788]

6 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Just think if we go 6-10 this season Irsay may fire our Coach and GM and if Michigan wins the National Title Harbaugh might leave Michigan = mission accomplished. Then Irsay can give Harbaugh the key to Indy to build our Defense and Coach Andrew like he did at Stanford.

That would be good for a few years until Harbaugh wears out his welcome as he is so apt to do where ever he goes.  Still light years better than Pagano though.

[BloodyChamp]

Run the ball some AZ jeeze. 

[Coltsman1788]

7 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

That isn't happening.  

Yeah...he lost me at the Michigan winning the national championship this year part.  lol

[2006Coltsbestever]

Harbaugh for Coach and Peyton for GM. Free Agents would be beating down our doors to play here.

[Coltsman1788]

19 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

I would bet belichick retires the same time Brady does

He isn't that old is he?  Father Time could deliver Brady a K.O. blow and Bill would still have many good years of coaching left in him if he is so inclined.   Heck...it would be the perfect opportunity for him to further cement his legacy as a guru and mastermind behind the Patriots success.

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

For a second there the Pats channeled their inner Colts in the form of tackling there. 

[Coltsman1788]

5 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Harbaugh for Coach and Peyton for GM. Free Agents would be beating down our doors to play here.

No thanks on the Peyton as GM part.  He has no experience.  We don't need another Griggson situation.  Bring Peyton on as a QB coach and we can talk.  He knows a lot about QBing in the NFL and would be invaluable in the film room.

[buffalo34]

God, they're still referencing the Super Bowl with Malcolm Butler? I think we get it after the 5,000th reference.

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

Lol funny to see Collins fall flat on his face 

[aaron11]

1 minute ago, buffalo34 said:

God, they're still referencing the Super Bowl with Malcolm Butler? I think we get it after the 5,000th reference.

we will probably never hear the end of that as long as he is still playing

 

 

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, Coltsman1788 said:

No thanks on the Peyton as GM part.  He has no experience.  We don't need another Griggson situation.  Bring Peyton on as a QB coach and we can talk.  He knows a lot about QBing in the NFL and would be invaluable in the film room.

I get what you are saying but Peyton would never be a QB Coach unless I am way off base for saying so? I just cant picture that. I think Peyton would be awesome at it though.

[aaron11]

1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I get what you are saying but Peyton would never be a QB Coach unless I am way off base for saying so? I just cant picture that. I think Peyton would be awesome at it though.

i dont see it either.  Qb coach is not a prestigious job

 

he would probably rather retire or analyze

[buffalo34]

So when does this defense start playing like a top defensive unit, and not giving up 3rd and 15s to teams with a backup QB and top TE?

[BloodyChamp]

It was the call on defense, not necessarily the effort. Blount had 1 man to beat by design and he beat him. Between this and the lack of running the ball I say this is more of a badly called game by the Cardinals than it is something great by the Patriots.

[Jules]

11 minutes ago, buffalo34 said:

So when does this defense start playing like a top defensive unit, and not giving up 3rd and 15s to teams with a backup QB and top TE?

 

They are getting a lot of pressure on Jimmy G at times, big time. The Pats playcalling has been superb at times IMO with mixing things up.

[buffalo34]

Run for one yard ad then chuck up a pass with little chance of being caught.

Why are we settling for a 50 yard FG?

[buffalo34]

Comeon Cardinals, STOP IT WITH THIS STUPID PLAYCALLING

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

Lol and this is how you out coach yourself to lose a football game on the last series. Sad 

[buffalo34]

Time for a wide right miss.

[BloodyChamp]

This is the worst game a Bruce Arians coached team has ever called!!!! Ever!!!!!!!! Even if they win!

[Jules]

 

 

Figures

 

 

[jvan1973]

Unreal

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

1 minute ago, buffalo34 said:

Time for a wide right miss.

Close enough