player talent on offense

[OLD FAN MAN]

imo we have enough player talent on offense to be a top 5. we could not make it work against the bills, while the pats today had no trouble scoring points against the same team. this leads me to believe our offensive coach is not good enough to take us to the playoffs. anyone agree or disagree? it all goes back to the man at the top , grigs! he is responsible for the players as well as the coaches, it all comes back to him. thoughts?

[IndySouthsider]

I think signing over the hill guys doesn't and hasn't ever worked. Draft well and develop.

[NewColtsFan]

imo we have enough player talent on offense to be a top 5. we could not make it work against the bills, while the pats today had no trouble scoring points against the same team. this leads me to believe our offensive coach is not good enough to take us to the playoffs. anyone agree or disagree? it all goes back to the man at the top , grigs! he is responsible for the players as well as the coaches, it all comes back to him. thoughts?

 

"This leads me to believe that the offensive coach at the top is not good enough to take us to the playoffs"

 

Those are YOUR words.

 

Except that the person at the top is Pep Hamilton.   And he's been the Colts OC for the last two years.   And both years we went to the playoffs and went further in the playoffs than the year before.

 

So,  your words have pretty much been proven to be wrong.

 

I don't need to offer you my opinion.    I proved my point with..........     facts.

[COLTS449]

Dude. We should be the best offense in the NFL. Not just top 5. We have a top 5 QB in Luck who's just truly entering his prime. We have Gore at RB, who is still a beast and can give us a 1,000 yard season. We have 2 really, really good, starting caliber TE's. We have 4 really good WR's, one of which is a top receiver in the league. 2 of them are young, up and coming receivers who could both be stars. We have the most talent in the league on offense.

[RockThatBlue]

imo we have enough player talent on offense to be a top 5. we could not make it work against the bills, while the pats today had no trouble scoring points against the same team. this leads me to believe our offensive coach is not good enough to take us to the playoffs. anyone agree or disagree? it all goes back to the man at the top , grigs! he is responsible for the players as well as the coaches, it all comes back to him. thoughts?

I know you're a troll but this is so dumb.

[Buck Showalter]

This thread is a real wiener...

[21isSuperman]

So....are you blaming the offensive coaches or Grigson?

[tigerkz]

Dude. We should be the best offense in the NFL. Not just top 5. We have a top 5 QB in Luck who's just truly entering his prime. We have Gore at RB, who is still a beast and can give us a 1,000 yard season. We have 2 really, really good, starting caliber TE's. We have 4 really good WR's, one of which is a top receiver in the league. 2 of them are young, up and coming receivers who could both be stars. We have the most talent in the league on offense.

And yet we have a horrible Offensive Line...  That's our glaring weakness on offense that will keep us from winning a Superbowl.

[Redbull]

The offense line was not the issue last weak lucks accuracy was better he couldn't hit anyone last week

[Bravo]

Can't do much with the weapons you have on offense at the skill posistions when the offensive line refuses to block.....

[OLD FAN MAN]

So....are you blaming the offensive coaches or Grigson?

I want others thoughts, grigs hired pep, is the boss or the employee to blame for the employees bad performance , in the real world sometimes both lose their jobs.

[jseg18]

Yes the coaches could have prepared a lot better, but it's week 1. If we played Buffalo again in week 10, the outcome would be a lot different.

[TKnight24]

imo we have enough player talent on offense to be a top 5. we could not make it work against the bills, while the pats today had no trouble scoring points against the same team. this leads me to believe our offensive coach is not good enough to take us to the playoffs. anyone agree or disagree? it all goes back to the man at the top , grigs! he is responsible for the players as well as the coaches, it all comes back to him. thoughts?

Stopped reading when you said not making the playoffs like we don't play in the worst division in the NFL

[TKnight24]

Yes the coaches could have prepared a lot better, but it's week 1. If we played Buffalo again in week 10, the outcome would be a lot different.

Eh, I doubt it. Outside of the AFC South, we're average

[COLTS449]

And yet we have a horrible Offensive Line...  That's our glaring weakness on offense that will keep us from winning a Superbowl.

 

That's a good point. But I have hope that our line will perform well enough this year to take us to the Super Bowl. Really if we put Reitz at LG our line may be OK. But could you imagine Andrew Luck with an O-Line like the Cowboys?

[SteelDragon]

New England does have the benefit of playing Buffalo and moreover, Rex Ryan, twice a season. So I would say Brady is intimately familiar with that defense.

Someone mentioned that the wind gusts were 25 mph last Sunday. That can wreak some havoc on a passing game. :/

[Gavin]

Football 101: Exploit the other teams weakness.....Which for Buffalo is 2 things...1.Coverage Linebackers and 2.A consistently good QB that can pick defenses apart from the pocket. We did not throw to our TE's nearly enough to test the Linebackers in coverage and we allowed Taylor to break run contain. The Patriots O Line gave up 1 less hit and 1 less sack on Brady then what we gave up last week.....That's with the throw away passes Brady executed in the game and going to the Patriots TE's and RB's a lot more then Luck went to Colt TE's or RB's

 

Brady threw 18 passes combined to Gronk and Chandler....Luck threw 7 to Coby and Allen combined

 

Brady also threw 11 passes total to RB's (Lewis-9, Cadet-1, Bolden-1)

 

Luck threw 4 passes to rb's (Gore-3, Varga-1)

 

Let those numbers sink in

[pgt_rob]

"This leads me to believe that the offensive coach at the top is not good enough to take us to the playoffs"

 

Those are YOUR words.

 

Except that the person at the top is Pep Hamilton.   And he's been the Colts OC for the last two years.   And both years we went to the playoffs and went further in the playoffs than the year before.

 

So,  your words have pretty much been proven to be wrong.

 

I don't need to offer you my opinion.    I proved my point with..........     facts.

 

Off topic comment here but when I read your comments I always picture you saying everything like this:

 

[Smash Mouth]

Football 101: Exploit the other teams weakness.....Which for Buffalo is 2 things...1.Coverage Linebackers and 2.A consistently good QB that can pick defenses apart from the pocket. We did not throw to our TE's nearly enough to test the Linebackers in coverage and we allowed Taylor to break run contain. The Patriots O Line gave up 1 less hit and 1 less sack on Brady then what we gave up last week.....That's with the throw away passes Brady executed in the game and going to the Patriots TE's and RB's a lot more then Luck went to Colt TE's or RB's

 

Brady threw 18 passes combined to Gronk and Chandler....Luck threw 7 to Coby and Allen combined

 

Brady also threw 11 passes total to RB's (Lewis-9, Cadet-1, Bolden-1)

 

Luck threw 4 passes to rb's (Gore-3, Varga-1)

 

Let those numbers sink in

First and foremost that's about coaching and scheme.  But having Gronk makes all that possible.  The scheme occupied those LBs and spread everything out.  Allowed the OL to control the pass rush.

 

This is why the the coaching staff needs to go.  The Patriots can innovate game-to-game, quarter-to-quater, etc.  Until we can do that we'll never get past them.

[Pacergeek]

Combination of bad personnel and coaching. Luck starts out slowly nearly every single game. We need someone to coach him up. Luck doesn't get going until the second half of most games.