Dez Bryant "Very Loyal Person"

[rockywoj]

An article about Dez Bryant and his wanting a monster contract from the Cowboys.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2266010-dez-bryant-comments-on-contract-negotiations-with-dallas-cowboys?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=nfl

 

That's all well and good, I have no problem with a top receiver wanting a comparatively fair contract, but when he says ...

 

"It's all about respect. It's all about respect," Bryant told reporters. "I am a very loyal person, but just don't test my loyalty."

 

... it sound to me as though he is NOT a very loyal person.  By inference, if the Cowboys dare "test" his loyalty by offering a contract that might ask for a bit of a home team discount, Bryant is telling them adios for daring to test his loyalty.

 

Yeah, real loyal.  <roll eyes>

[Dustin]

> give a bit of a home team discount

 

​LOL that contract is straight up insulting. He'd be making be making the same as Mike Wallace and Dwayne Bowe. And have the same amount of guaranteed money as Sammy Watkins (rookie contract).

 

Not to mention that the contract will carry him throughout basically his career, and not let him cash in on a 2nd (probably better) contract. 

 

Glad Dez told them to shove it. 

[rockywoj]

> give a bit of a home team discount

 

​LOL that contract is straight up insulting. He'd be making be making the same as Mike Wallace and Dwayne Bowe. And have the same amount of guaranteed money as Sammy Watkins (rookie contract).

 

Not to mention that the contract will carry him throughout basically his career, and not let him cash in on a 2nd (probably better) contract. 

 

Glad Dez told them to shove it. 

Like I said, real loyal.  And as for how much is so far offered, contract negotiations are a "process".  Offer, counter offer.  If I were an owner one thing I would not take kindly to is having a baffoon try to take the process to the press.  Bryant's just another spoiled "me" player and the absurd contradiction of his comments clearly reveal that.  His only loyalty is to his wallet.

[Dustin]

His only loyalty is to his wallet.

 

As it should be. 

[rockywoj]

As it should be. 

 

Even the masses advocate greed. <roll eyes>

 

Top ten receiver wanting top ten receiver money ... top ten salaries averaged = fair starting point from which to negotiate.

[Dustin]

Even the masses advocate greed. <roll eyes>

 

Yup. Take as much as you can get and then some. 

[rockywoj]

Yup. Take as much as you can get and then some. 

America!  And loyalty be damned!

[Dustin]

America!  And loyalty be damned!

 

Loyalty? I guarantee you if Dez Bryant broke his back and could never play again, the Cowboys would cut him as quickly as possible. 

 

Aint no loyalty in this game. 

[rockywoj]

Loyalty? I guarantee you if Dez Bryant broke his back and could never play again, the Cowboys would cut him as quickly as possible. 

 

Aint no loyalty in this game. 

 

Insurance / disability ... all as collectively bargained.

 

No Loyalty in the game?  I bet Reggie Wayne would disagree with you.

[Dustin]

Insurance / disability ... all as collectively bargained.

 

LOL which is nowhere near the amount he would get if the guaranteed money wasn't a joke.

 

 

No Loyalty in the game?  I bet Reggie Wayne would disagree with you.

 

And there are hundreds of other players who would disagree with you. 

 

No use leaving money on the table for some misplaced sense of loyalty, from a team that would cut you in a second. 

[rockywoj]

LOL which is nowhere near the amount he would get if the guaranteed money wasn't a joke.

 

 

 

And there are hundreds of other players who would disagree with you. 

 

No use leaving money on the table for some misplaced sense of loyalty, from a team that would cut you in a second. 

 

The disability benefits as collectively bargained are a joke?  Also consider, a player is free to take out whatever independent disability benefits they want on top of those collectively bargained.  As well, any prudent contract negotiator would have specific clauses that deal with disability.

 

Point being, though, Bryant showed himself as being a hypocrite in his claim of being a loyal person ... and you have shown that you are an advocate of being loyal to nothing more than one's wallet.  Clearly your sensibilities about loyalty differ from mine.  For me, as an example, if I were a true blue Colt, whether I make $6M per year or $8M per year wouldn't really matter to me as long as I am loyally taken care of in other respects.

 

Easy for me to say not being in pro sports where ALL amounts paid to the athletes are outrageously excessive?   Well, in my actual life I have worked for the same company going on 26 years.  I could have easily earned more than double what I have made here if I chose to be loyal only to my wallet.  I am loyal and I have been treated well in every respect, even if from a comparative standpoint I could have done better for my wallet by moving around every 3 years to the highest bidder.

 

Bottom line, for me, "loyalty" actually means something and I completely loath the free agent mentality of modern sports.  In my business life, anybody who is not a company man I view as just a replaceable cog.  People that are loyal to the company, I treat like gold!  Loyalty means something.

[Dustin]

The disability benefits as collectively bargained are a joke?  Also consider, a player is free to take out whatever independent disability benefits they want on top of those collectively bargained.  As well, any prudent contract negotiator would have specific clauses that deal with disability.

 

 

Yes, and they can also sign a contract to the highest bidder.

 

 

For me, as an example, if I were a true blue Colt, whether I make $6M per year or $8M per year wouldn't really matter to me as long as I am loyally taken care of in other respects.

 

And that's fine. I won't question YOUR motives. But I'd personally rather accumulate enough wealth to keep my family taken care of for generations.

 

If a player takes a 5 year deal worth $6M APY vs $8M APY that's $10M being left on the table.

 

 

 

Easy for me to say not being in pro sports where ALL amounts paid to the athletes are outrageously excessive?   Well, in my actual life I have worked for the same company going on 26 years.  I could have easily earned more than double what I have made here if I chose to be loyal only to my wallet.  I am loyal and I have been treated well in every respect, even if from a comparative standpoint I could have done better for my wallet by moving around every 3 years to the highest bidder.

 

And? If somebody came to my job and offered me double what I make, you can be assured I'd quit that day.

 

 

Bottom line, for me, "loyalty" actually means something and I completely loath the free agent mentality of modern sports.  In my business life, anybody who is not a company man I view as just a replaceable cog.  People that are loyal to the company, I treat like gold!  Loyalty means something.

 

People who are loyal to their NFL franchises are screwed over more oft than not. 

[SteelCityColt]

Is this any worse than the noise Dallas are putting out about Bryant's behaviour trying to paint him as someone who can't be trusted with a big contract? This is just all part of the negotiation propaganda by both sides. 

 

Unfortunately for the Cowboys, Mike Wallace has set the market and if you're telling me Bryant should take less than him...

[21isSuperman]

Bryant deserves way more than what they supposedly offered.  That's pretty insulting, if you ask me.  This guy is one of the top 5 receivers in the game and while there were some character concerns, he's been a really good leader for the team and he's stayed out of trouble the last few years.  Pay the man like he deserves to be paid.

 

With that said, I always find it funny when players say "it's not about the money".....really?  I'm not judging the players for going after as much money as they can, but don't say it's not about the money.  The whole thing about this is the amount of money offered is disrespectful, so it is about the money.

 

If you ask me, the Cowboys need to pay this man the money he deserves.  If they don't, someone else will.  And losing Bryant would not only greatly upset the fanbase, but would really hurt your offense

[Superman]

Bottom line, for me, "loyalty" actually means something and I completely loath the free agent mentality of modern sports.  In my business life, anybody who is not a company man I view as just a replaceable cog.  People that are loyal to the company, I treat like gold!  Loyalty means something.

 

Being loyal to a company isn't smart, IMO, especially when your earning potential is at its highest for just a few years. A corporate professional earns more in his 50s than he does in his 20s. NFL players have to take a different approach to their earnings. They can't stick around for 26 years, hoping that the company does right by them as they continue to work their way up the ladder.

 

And for a player like Dez Bryant, he knows the market supports more compensation than he's being offered by the Cowboys. There's no reason for him to just accept what they're offering him out of some misplaced sense of loyalty. That doesn't mean he has to take everything he can possibly get, but he also shouldn't sell himself short. 

[oldunclemark]

An article about Dez Bryant and his wanting a monster contract from the Cowboys.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2266010-dez-bryant-comments-on-contract-negotiations-with-dallas-cowboys?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=nfl

 

That's all well and good, I have no problem with a top receiver wanting a comparatively fair contract, but when he says ...

 

"It's all about respect. It's all about respect," Bryant told reporters. "I am a very loyal person, but just don't test my loyalty."

 

... it sound to me as though he is NOT a very loyal person.  By inference, if the Cowboys dare "test" his loyalty by offering a contract that might ask for a bit of a home team discount, Bryant is telling them adios for daring to test his loyalty.

 

Yeah, real loyal.  <roll eyes>

He's trouble..Dallas got good years out of him..Let him walk...

a $12,000,000 wide receiver has to be all plus and no minus....

Dez is not

[BOTT]

Like I said, real loyal.  And as for how much is so far offered, contract negotiations are a "process".  Offer, counter offer.  If I were an owner one thing I would not take kindly to is having a baffoon try to take the process to the press.  Bryant's just another spoiled "me" player and the absurd contradiction of his comments clearly reveal that.  His only loyalty is to his wallet.

He took it to the press? Reports recently came out about how many times cops have been called to Bryant's house.....just coincidence I suppose??

Loyalty?? How come that's always a one way street when it comes to professional athletes?

[rockywoj]

Being loyal to a company isn't smart, IMO, especially when your earning potential is at its highest for just a few years. A corporate professional earns more in his 50s than he does in his 20s. NFL players have to take a different approach to their earnings. They can't stick around for 26 years, hoping that the company does right by them as they continue to work their way up the ladder.

 

And for a player like Dez Bryant, he knows the market supports more compensation than he's being offered by the Cowboys. There's no reason for him to just accept what they're offering him out of some misplaced sense of loyalty. That doesn't mean he has to take everything he can possibly get, but he also shouldn't sell himself short. 

 

Well, the bolded text would preclude you from ever working for my companies.   ;)

 

As for sports stars, yeah, they ought to be paid fairly.  Top five receiver, top five pay would be in order.  8, 9, or 10 million, or whatever closely approximates top 5 receiver money though, when you have already made millions upon millions.  If the family is not already looked after, then he's a dufus.  To bleed for every last million, that's not loyalty.

 

At the heart of this post, though, is not so much the money in question, but the hypocrisy of his comments.  Like I said, for right or wrong, he claims to be loyal, by implication to the cowboys, but he reveals that he is not loyal, except to his wallet.  So contrary to what he says, his comments speak to his lack of loyalty, which is ironic because he's the one throwing his "loyalty" out there.

 

I tend to agree with old uncle mark.  A guy like that with his trouble past, I would be anxiously looking to replace.  Anybody want to make a good offer for a top 5 receiver in his prime?  I'd be willing to deal Bryant away if the price is right.

[rockywoj]

He took it to the press? Reports recently came out about how many times cops have been called to Bryant's house.....just coincidence I suppose??

Loyalty?? How come that's always a one way street when it comes to professional athletes?

 

The press publicizing all of his off field issues, perhaps?  All the more reason to question this guy's ethics and loyalty.

[BOTT]

The press publicizing all of his off field issues, perhaps?  All the more reason to question this guy's ethics and loyalty.

Weird, the same thing happened to Desean Jackson last yr.....

[sweetsurrender]

Pro players are the ones that fought for FAs back in the day so they could go out and earn fair market value. It is always interesting to me that they then turn that on the orgs they play for and talk about loyalty? How exactly are the Cowboys disrespecting Bryant? If he can earn more money elsewhere more power to him. The Cowboys have a number for what he is worth and if he can get more than that is the power he has as a FA. I just don't why players want it both ways - a monster contract from their current employer who is not under any obligation to give it to them and then cry on the way out.

[wesd2890]

Ungrateful s.o.b.. people are patheticly greedy.. he wont play for nothing less than 17mil.. and that ladies and gentlemen is why he will never be on a winning team.. worried about money

[wesd2890]

Insurance / disability ... all as collectively bargained.

No Loyalty in the game? I bet Reggie Wayne would disagree with you.

I bet Peyton manning wouldnt disagree lol

[pacolts56]

Just give the guy his Top 5 WR deal with the appropriate guaranteed $$$$....he's proven his Top 5 skills....and write conduct clauses into it that forfeits all or part of those guarantees if he screws up off the field.

 

Or is being held to account for off-field thuggery no longer allowed by the union/league agreement?

[Dustin]

Just give the guy his Top 5 WR deal with the appropriate guaranteed $$$$....he's proven his Top 5 skills....and write conduct clauses into it that forfeits all or part of those guarantees if he screws up off the field.

 

The problem is that no player in their right mind would sign that contract. 

[Synthetic]

Ungrateful s.o.b.. people are patheticly greedy.. he wont play for nothing less than 17mil.. and that ladies and gentlemen is why he will never be on a winning team.. worried about money

 

Pathetically greedy? No, that's capitalism.

 

Once these guys short careers are over, we know they normally go broke and do nothing afterwards.

 

If you're going to say he's greedy, they're all greedy. I don't see why these guys need to be paid millions upon millions to play a silly game to entertain us. All that money on the high school (and college) level could easily go towards academics and not wasted on sporting events.

[jvan1973]

Pathetically greedy? No, that's capitalism.

Once these guys short careers are over, we know they normally go broke and do nothing afterwards.

If you're going to say he's greedy, they're all greedy. I don't see why these guys need to be paid millions upon millions to play a silly game to entertain us. All that money on the high school (and college) level could easily go towards academics and not wasted on sporting events.

You should move to a country with a socialist economy. Getting what you can while you can is what smart people do

And most of them do not end up broke, some of them do

[Colts_Fan12]

I really really really hope Dez leaves Dallas! I hate that team but like Dez alot hate when players i really like end up with the Cowboys, Patriots, and Steelers could even throw the saints on there too but it's not as bad as the other 3 *

[Colts_Fan12]

He's trouble..Dallas got good years out of him..Let him walk...

a $12,000,000 wide receiver has to be all plus and no minus....

Dez is not

Are you kidding me??

[jvan1973]

He's trouble..Dallas got good years out of him..Let him walk...

a $12,000,000 wide receiver has to be all plus and no minus....

Dez is not

What are his minuses?

[Colts_Fan12]

What are his minuses?

Being stuck with tony romo and Jerry jones

[Superman]

Well, the bolded text would preclude you from ever working for my companies.   ;)

 

As for sports stars, yeah, they ought to be paid fairly.  Top five receiver, top five pay would be in order.  8, 9, or 10 million, or whatever closely approximates top 5 receiver money though, when you have already made millions upon millions.  If the family is not already looked after, then he's a dufus.  To bleed for every last million, that's not loyalty.

 

At the heart of this post, though, is not so much the money in question, but the hypocrisy of his comments.  Like I said, for right or wrong, he claims to be loyal, by implication to the cowboys, but he reveals that he is not loyal, except to his wallet.  So contrary to what he says, his comments speak to his lack of loyalty, which is ironic because he's the one throwing his "loyalty" out there.

 

I tend to agree with old uncle mark.  A guy like that with his trouble past, I would be anxiously looking to replace.  Anybody want to make a good offer for a top 5 receiver in his prime?  I'd be willing to deal Bryant away if the price is right.

 

I don't think players necessarily need to bleed the team for every last million. But I do think they should endeavor to be paid according to what their market is. A hometown discount is okay, to an extent, but the team doesn't get to say "hey, it would be better for the company if you take 30% less than what other players of your caliber are making." 

 

And I disagree that his comments imply that he's only loyal to his wallet. Loyalty is a two-way street. Like Dustin said, the team is only "loyal" to him for as long as he's productive for them. He's saying that he wants to be a Cowboy, but he also wants to be paid what he thinks he's worth. Those two objectives have to meet, or at least come close to meeting. He has a short window of opportunity to maximize his earning potential, which is the primary reason he does what he does.

 

As for Dez Bryant's value, specifically, no question he has some red flags. But we all know that he'd have a very strong market if he were to hit free agency. The Cowboys actually have an opportunity to get a little bit of a discount right now. If they don't want to pay him like a top notch receiver, then let him walk, or try to trade him. But that's not loyalty either, is it?

[Nobody]

Insurance / disability ... all as collectively bargained.

No Loyalty in the game? I bet Reggie Wayne would disagree with you.

Okay, say Dez starts sucking. Like really bad. Know what would happen? They'd trade him for peanuts and he'd be cut. Loyalty is nice but you can't hate a player for turning down a bad contract.

[pacolts56]

I must say....this loyalty angle is a little puzzling.

 

After all, Robert Kraft showed loyalty to Aaron Hernandez....and will wind up getting bent over and reamed to the tune of $10M plus for his "loyalty". With the union's help...by the way.

 

I'm no Jerry Jones fan but he didn't get filthy stinking rich by being stupid....and Bryant, according to the local police records researched and reported by Ian Rappaport, has rung up enough red flags to hurt his own cause and render the "loyalty card" a secondary issue at best.

 

Jerry is, without question, using the off-field issue in a rather unpleasant manner to his advantage....but can you honestly blame him?

 

I bet Robert Kraft wishes he had with Hernandez, because they knew enough about that hoodlum even before they drafted him. Kraft...by all accounts a good guy...gave him the benefit of the doubt. Twice.

 

Jerry Jones shouldn't with Bryant, not at THAT price and without stipulations protecting the team.

 

Sorry....if it walks like a thug and talks like a thug....

[southwest1]

Just give the guy his Top 5 WR deal with the appropriate guaranteed $$$$....he's proven his Top 5 skills....and write conduct clauses into it that forfeits all or part of those guarantees if he screws up off the field.

 

Or is being held to account for off-field thuggery no longer allowed by the union/league agreement?

Exactly PAC56, as much as I dislike Dallas as a franchise generally, Dez has proven his worth & you're paying him for production on the field not minor infractions off of it. 

 

How come owners demand a home town discount without balancing a players worth against the money they generate by winning football games? Take away Bryant, Romo, Whitten, & Murray Jerry & the Cowboys are pathetic again. You pay the dudes that put fans in the seats & make your stadium relevant. 

[Dustin]

I must say....this loyalty angle is a little puzzling.

 

After all, Robert Kraft showed loyalty to Aaron Hernandez....and will wind up getting bent over and reamed to the tune of $10M plus for his "loyalty". With the union's help...by the way.

 

I'm no Jerry Jones fan but he didn't get filthy stinking rich by being stupid....and Bryant, according to the local police records researched and reported by Ian Rappaport, has rung up enough red flags to hurt his own cause and render the "loyalty card" a secondary issue at best.

 

Jerry is, without question, using the off-field issue in a rather unpleasant manner to his advantage....but can you honestly blame him?

 

I bet Robert Kraft wishes he had with Hernandez, because they knew enough about that hoodlum even before they drafted him. Kraft...by all accounts a good guy...gave him the benefit of the doubt. Twice.

 

Jerry Jones shouldn't with Bryant, not at THAT price and without stipulations protecting the team.

 

Sorry....if it walks like a thug and talks like a thug....

 

That was all proven to be B.S.

[Superman]

That was all proven to be B.S.

 

Trumped up, definitely. Some of it was real, though.

[southwest1]

Bryant deserves way more than what they supposedly offered.  That's pretty insulting, if you ask me.  This guy is one of the top 5 receivers in the game and while there were some character concerns, he's been a really good leader for the team and he's stayed out of trouble the last few years.  Pay the man like he deserves to be paid.

 

With that said, I always find it funny when players say "it's not about the money".....really?  I'm not judging the players for going after as much money as they can, but don't say it's not about the money.  The whole thing about this is the amount of money offered is disrespectful, so it is about the money.

 

If you ask me, the Cowboys need to pay this man the money he deserves.  If they don't, someone else will.  And losing Bryant would not only greatly upset the fanbase, but would really hurt your offense

Beautiful post 21st. My favorite part of what you wrote is highlighted in red. No poor guy ever says I have nothing to my name & I'm dirt broke, but my life is so fulfilled & symbolically rich beyond belief. 

[pacolts56]

That was all proven to be B.S.

Proven?

 

Sorry, we've seen enough cover-ups and things brushed under the rug over these past years to where I wouldn't blame Jones for protecting the Top 5 salary that Bryant does indeed deserve, and should get, with some team-friendly stipulations.

 

If that bothers Bryant...then I'd consider that ANOTHER red flag and let him go.

[oldunclemark]

This guy is a felony waiting to happen...

....Dallas should ship him to the Raiders for the No.1 choice