Getting Down to 90.......

[Scott Pennock]

Currently the roster is sitting at 102 players and that has to be down to 90 by Training Camp.

 

So 12 players will have to be released in the coming weeks.

 

Given the churning of the roster that has taken place in the last 18 months since Grigson has taken charge...........are there any holdovers from the previous regime (Brown, Reitz, Ijalana, Linkenbach) that are likely to to be cut still, or some players that the current regime (McGlynn, Hickman, McKinney) that could be cut prior to TC Starting - or after the Rookie Mini-Camp?

 

What are you thoughts?

[TKnight24]

We have 102 players??!!!! That's crazy!!!

Gonna be interesting to see who doesn't make it

[Tark The Shark]

Link still has a good opportunity because of his versatility in the interior line. The rest could probably end up being cut.

[Colts_Fan12]

Well hopefully 1 is McGlynn lol cut him I would also hope for Satele but that prolly won't happen

[SteelCityColt]

Stupid question maybe, and I apologies if it is, but how can they * a player abilities before Training camp starts. I guess I'm referring to some of the UDFAs we signed, would they really cut them before getting a handle on how they play?

 

Or can we expect them instead to shift some of the dead wood that they have a fair idea of where their ceiling lies. 

[Smurphy1]

Stupid question maybe, and I apologies if it is, but how can they * a player abilities before Training camp starts. I guess I'm referring to some of the UDFAs we signed, would they really cut them before getting a handle on how they play?

 

Or can we expect them instead to shift some of the dead wood that they have a fair idea of where their ceiling lies. 

 

OTAs

[#BringBobBack]

i hope we keep ijalana and McKinney they're solid players who if they recover could be really productive i also like nigel malone out of our UDFA to replace vaughn who is just garbage and a total joke im also not sold on shipley sjhort arms and cant get to ball to lucks hands when he snaps heis a dissapointment to me and many might disagree but i think holmes slides in at #2 center satele will be excellent if his knee recovers but vaughn mcglynn and shipley bye bye also excited about dan moore maybe get rid of one of our less exsplosive backs although i like most of our running backs

[RomanianColtsFan]

I don't see many of the players you mentioned being cut. It will be mostly the UFDAs that get a tryout and then won't be retained.

There may also be somebody from the bottom of the roster before the draft that could be cut in case more than 7 undrafted players generate a strong impression.  

[SteelCityColt]

OTAs

Ahhh right, but your limited on the number of OTAs you can have right?

[The Sack Pack]

So Technically our roster isn't at 102. We got alot of UDFA's that we just invited to the rookie minicamp here at the beginning of May. From there we only take 90 into Training camp.

[ztboiler]

So Technically our roster isn't at 102. We got alot of UDFA's that we just invited to the rookie minicamp here at the beginning of May. From there we only take 90 into Training camp.

 

I'm not 100% clear on this, but I think there is a reason that you haven't seen the Colts list of UDFA signings in a formal article yet.  The roster cap is limited to 90 already, not just the start of camp.  In year's past, we have had our UDFA's written up formally already.  Today, we have room for 13 since the draft picks aren't signed yet, maybe 14 if McNary doesn't count yet.  Not sure if the league counts the unsigned draft picks against your off-season roster limit or not.

[HarassedOffTheSite]

Currently the roster is sitting at 102 players and that has to be down to 90 by Training Camp.

 

So 12 players will have to be released in the coming weeks.

 

Given the churning of the roster that has taken place in the last 18 months since Grigson has taken charge...........are there any holdovers from the previous regime (Brown, Reitz, Ijalana, Linkenbach) that are likely to to be cut still, or some players that the current regime (McGlynn, Hickman, McKinney) that could be cut prior to TC Starting - or after the Rookie Mini-Camp?

 

What are you thoughts?

 

First off, anyone from the Polian era has to be considered a person who could get the boot (just as a general rule).

 

Secondly, stack up our positions by depth. The players that are in positions that have the most depth should have their head on a swivel.

 

Thirdly, undrafted Free Agents are always candidates for early retirement.

 

And of course Donald Brown; as "the greatest player in the history of the franchise" he is always on the bubble....or should be.

[BOTT]

The Link is forever a Colt

[Luckynumber12]

Ijalana hasnt had a fair chance he was hurt alot id say give him another shot as for mcglynn id cut him he was horrible last year  Brown he has been a bust idk id give him this year but if not just let him walk  Mckinney is a good DT i wouldnt let him walk

[Luckynumber12]

1 UDFA i can see making the roster and provided good depth for us is Braxton Swamson  CB San Jose State  i was watching NFL AM and Eric Davis "ED "  says this guy is the whole package   great Hands  Ball hawk  good against the run can play man to man  thats got Chuck Pagano's CB written all over it !

[Scott Pennock]

We have 102 players??!!!! That's crazy!!!

Gonna be interesting to see who doesn't make it

Yessir.......by my count we have 102, and here they are:

 

# Name Position Height Weight Age Experience College 62 Shipley, A.Q. C 6'1 309 26 1 Penn State 64 Satele, Samson C  6'3 299 28 6 Hawaii   Holmes, Khaled C/G 6'3 302 23 R USC 75 McGlynn, Mike C/G 6'4 327 28 5 Pittsburgh 20 Butler, Darius CB 5'10 185 27 4 Connecticut   Chapman, Allen CB 5'11 184 21 R Kansas State 23 Davis, Vontae CB 5'11 205 24 4 Illinois 27 Gordy, Josh CB 5'11 195 26 2 Central Michigan 30 Green, Marshay CB 5'10 175 27 2 Mississippi   Malone, Nigel CB 5'10 185 22 R Kansas State   Price, Sheldon CB 6'2 180 22 R UCLA   Swanson, Daxton CB 5'10 186   R Sam Houston State 28 Toler, Greg CB 6'0 192 28 5 St. Paul's (VA) 32 Vaughn, Cassius CB 5'11 195 25 3 Mississippi 21 Williams, Teddy CB 6'1 201 24 1 Texas-San Antonio   Bright, Jordan DL 6'7 295 23 R Indiana State 61 Chapman, Josh DL 6'0 316 23 1 Alabama 97 Franklin, Aubrayo DL 6'1 315 32 11 Tennessee 67 Guy, Lawrence DL 6'4 300 23 2 Arizona State 65 Heard, Kellen DL 6'6 339 27 2 Memphis   Hughes, Montori DL 6'4 330 22 R Tennessee-Martin 99 Jean Francois, Ricky DL 6'3 295 26 5 LSU 91 Mathews, Ricardo DL 6'3 310 25 3 Cincinnati 96 McKinney, Brandon DL 6'2 345 29 7 Michigan State 95 Moala, Fili DL 6'4 310 27 4 USC 94 Nevis, Drake DL 6'1 310 23 2 LSU 90 Redding, Cory DL 6'4 315 32 10 Texas 68 Tevaseu, Martin DL 6'2 325 25 2 Nevada-Las Vegas 39 Havili, Stanley FB 6'0 245 25 2 USC 29 Hughes, Robert FB 5'11 235 23 1 Notre Dame   Moore, Dan FB 5'11 240 23 R Montana 41 Bethea, Antoine FS 5'11 196 28 7 Howard   Boyett, John FS 5'10 204 23 R Oregon   Driskill, Nick FS 5'8 197 22 R Mount Union 26 Howell, Delano FS 5'11 201 23 1 Stanford 35 Lefeged, Joe FS 6'0 205 24 2 Rutgers 51 Angerer, Pat ILB 6'0 236 26 3 Iowa 53 Conner, Kavell ILB 6'0 243 26 3 Clemson 50 Freeman, Jerrell ILB 6'0 234 26 1 Mary Hardin-Baylor 54 Harvey, Mario ILB 6'0 264 25 1 Marshall 59 Loiseau, Shawn ILB 6'0 239 23 1 Merrimack 56 Lutrus, Scott ILB 6'3 247 24 1 Connecticut   Prime, C.O. ILB 5'11 255   R Wagner   Sheppard, Kelvin ILB 6'2 244 25 3 LSU 57 Simmons, Monte ILB 6'3 226 24 1 Kent State   Josifovski, Michael K 6'2 190 22 R Marian   McManus, Brandon K 6'3 201 21 R Temple 4 Vinatieri, Adam K 6'0 206 40 17 South Dakota State 45 Overton, Matt LS 6'1 254 27 1 Western Washington 79 Anderson, Justin OG 6'5 342 24 1 Georgia   Dworaczyk, Josh OG 6'6 300 23 R LSU 73 Griffin, Robert OG 6'6 330 23 1 Baylor 71 Ijalana, Ben OG 6'4 337 23 2 Villanova   Johnson-Webb, Jamaal OG 6'5 313 23 R Alabama A&M 76 Reitz, Joe OG 6'7 322 27 2 Western Michigan 66 Thomas, Donald OG 6'4 305 27 6 Connecticut   Thornton, Hugh OG 6'3 320 21 R Illinois 55 Hickman, Justin OLB 6'2 258 27 1 UCLA 49 Killeen, Jake OLB 6'4 240 27 R Charleston Southern 98 Mathis, Robert OLB 6'2 245 32 10 Alabama A&M   McNary, Josh OLB 6'0 250 25 R Army 52 Sidbury, Lawrence OLB 6'3 261 27 5 Richmond 58 Spears, Quinton OLB 6'4 234 24 2 Prairie View A&M 93 Walden, Erik OLB 6'2 250 27 6 Middle Tennessee State   Werner, Bjoern OLB 6'3 266 22 R Florida State 74 Castonzo, Anthony OT 6'7 315 24 2 Boston College 78 Cherilus, Gosder OT 6'7 325 28 6 Boston College   Cleary, Emmett OT 6'7 315 23 R Boston College 72 Linkenbach, Jeff OT 6'6 323 25 3 Cincinnati 60 Sowell, Bradley OT 6'7 320 23 1 Mississippi 63 Ziemba, Lee OT 6'6 320 23 2 Auburn 1 McAfee, Pat P 6'1 220 25 4 West Virginia 5 Harnish, Chandler QB 6'2 220 24 1 Northern Illinois 8 Hasselbeck, Matt QB 6'4 225 37 15 Boston College 12 Luck, Andrew QB 6'4 234 23 1 Stanford 40 Alexander, Alvester RB 5'11 204 22 1 Wyoming 33 Ballard, Vick RB 5'10 217 22 1 Mississippi State 31 Brown, Donald RB 5'10 210 25 4 Connecticut 34 Carter, Delone RB 5'9 238 25 2 Syracuse 42 Meggett, Davin RB 5'8 215 22 1 Maryland   O'Bryant, Denodus RB 5'9 194   R Lindenwood   Williams, Kerwynn RB 5'8 195 21 R Utah State 36 Asante, Larry SS 6'0 210 25 2 Nebraska 38 Brown, Sergio SS 6'2 210 24 3 Notre Dame 30 Landry, LaRon SS 6'0 220 28 7 LSU 83 Allen, Dwayne TE 6'3 255 23 1 Clemson   Cunningham, Jerome TE 6'4 245   R Southern Connecticut St.   Cunningham, Justice TE 6'3 258 22 R South Carolina 80 Fleener, Coby TE 6'3 252 24 1 Stanford 46 Jones, Dominique TE 6'3 255 25 1 Shepherd 85 Saunders, Weslye TE 6'5 270 24 2 South Carolina 15 Brazill, LaVon WR 5'11 191 24 1 Ohio 81 Heyward-Bey, Darrius WR 6'2 216 26 5 Maryland 13 Hilton, T.Y. WR 5'9 183 23 1 Florida International 84 Kelley, Jeremy WR 6'6 225 24 R Maine 10 Palmer, Nathan WR 5'11 195 23 1 Northern Illinois   Patterson, Jamal-Rashad WR 6'2 209   R Stanford   Rumble, Rodrick WR 6'2 209   R Idaho State 16 Sambrano, Jabin WR 5'11 175 23 1 Montana   Simpson, Lanear WR 5'11 201 22 R Baylor 87 Wayne, Reggie WR 6'0 198 34 12 Miami (Fla.) 17 Whalen, Griff WR 5'11 185 23 1 Stanford

[Scott Pennock]

Sorry, my list above looked much cleaner when I pasted it.........

[Scott Pennock]

I'm not 100% clear on this, but I think there is a reason that you haven't seen the Colts list of UDFA signings in a formal article yet.  The roster cap is limited to 90 already, not just the start of camp.  In year's past, we have had our UDFA's written up formally already.  Today, we have room for 13 since the draft picks aren't signed yet, maybe 14 if McNary doesn't count yet.  Not sure if the league counts the unsigned draft picks against your off-season roster limit or not.

You may be onto something there...........we have 102 currently with 7 draft picks and 1 Reserve/Military so that means there are 94 left.  After the Mini Camp there will have to be decisions made as to whether they will cut someone currently on the roster, after they see the UDFA and First Year veterans in the complex to get down to the 90. 

 

It's pretty safe to say that McNary and the 7 draft picks will be a part of that 90 so that leaves 20 players not named McNary, Werner, Thornton, Holmes, Hughes, Williams, Boyett and Justice Cunningham that will have to be let go.  We only 'signed' 18 UDFA, so I think it's a fair guess that there are a few guys feeling the heat right now to not even make it to TC!??!

[ztboiler]

You may be onto something there...........we have 102 currently with 7 draft picks and 1 Reserve/Military so that means there are 94 left.  After the Mini Camp there will have to be decisions made as to whether they will cut someone currently on the roster, after they see the UDFA and First Year veterans in the complex to get down to the 90. 

 

It's pretty safe to say that McNary and the 7 draft picks will be a part of that 90 so that leaves 20 players not named McNary, Werner, Thornton, Holmes, Hughes, Williams, Boyett and Justice Cunningham that will have to be let go.  We only 'signed' 18 UDFA, so I think it's a fair guess that there are a few guys feeling the heat right now to not even make it to TC!??!

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000164809/article/undrafted-rookie-free-agents-for-all-32-nfl-teams

 

This article is probably the right way of looking at our UDFA's.  Any UDFAs not on this list is a longer shot to ever get a contract, and 1 of the kickers get's removed when McNary goes live.  Of course, we added and subtracted UDFA's multiple times between the draft and training camp last year.  So, some of that will go on.  Plus, a few of the UDFA's not on this list probably have an understanding that they will get to stay with a contract once we trim others here and there.

[HarassedOffTheSite]

Ijalana hasnt had a fair chance he was hurt alot id say give him another shot as for mcglynn id cut him he was horrible last year  Brown he has been a bust idk id give him this year but if not just let him walk  Mckinney is a good DT i wouldnt let him walk

 

I dunno. I'm thinking McKinney'll be fortunate to survive the first round of cuts. We're stacked with talent at the position and let's be honest, he was brought in as a stop-gap (literally & figuratively). I'm not sure he makes the final 53. We'll see.

[HtownColt]

You have to like July when actual training camp opens to get down to 90 I believe

[Smonroe]

So Technically our roster isn't at 102. We got alot of UDFA's that we just invited to the rookie minicamp here at the beginning of May. From there we only take 90 into Training camp.

Right, I really doubt any of our signed players will be cut before the OTAs or minis. 12 of those UDFAs won't be invited back.

[Luck_Is_Skilled]

I wish we were on Hard Knocks.

[coltsfan1983]

I only count 90 on Colts.com list

[Warhorse]

I dunno. I'm thinking McKinney'll be fortunate to survive the first round of cuts. We're stacked with talent at the position and let's be honest, he was brought in as a stop-gap (literally & figuratively). I'm not sure he makes the final 53. We'll see.

Mckinney is a cab ride to get around, but his problem is he can stack and shed.....but he is limited to a 3-4 foot radius to lunge. Not the kind of lateral movement we need, especially when we play a Shanahan type run game.

[The Sack Pack]

Right, I really doubt any of our signed players will be cut before the OTAs or minis. 12 of those UDFAs won't be invited back.

This is what I was trying to convey, I guess I wasnt articulate enough to express it though. .