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3 minutes ago, Chrisaaron1023 said:

Still.. Houston did what they needed to do.. play lights out! They will desperately need a game in GS

GSW has to win the next 2.... or we're going 7

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1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Houston will get my attention if they win one in Golden St. Then it goes 7, I agree Mark.

..all I'm saying is: This is what Houston did to everyone all season...

.......117-91..5:00 left

 

I know that GSW played like they didn't have to win tonight...but the Rockets have just embarrassed people all season....I remember the 2 Pacers-Houston games....

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1 minute ago, oldunclemark said:

..all I'm saying is: This is what Houston did to everyone all season...

.......117-91..5:00 left

 

I know that GSW played like they didn't have to win tonight...but the Rockets have just embarrassed people all season....I remember the 2 Pacers-Houston games....

At least this makes Game 3 real interesting now.

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We now have 2 good series because lets face it if Boston wasn't up 2-0, Cavs would've won that in 6 IMO. Boston took care of HCA so that makes that series real interesting too. See if LeBron can come back from 0-2? In the Warriors/Rockets series I will be real curious to see how the Rockets come out in Game 3 after winning big tonight.

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Is there a reason for the 3-day break in both series?   All 4 teams need it but it pushes the finals back into June

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6 hours ago, oldunclemark said:

Is there a reason for the 3-day break in both series?   All 4 teams need it but it pushes the finals back into June

My thoughts exactly.

 

7 hours ago, oldunclemark said:

..all I'm saying is: This is what Houston did to everyone all season...

.......117-91..5:00 left

 

The Rockets just scored a postseason high 127 points for them.. they Def had IT going last night, Gordan and Tucker didn't miss. I don't think the Warriors will be worried quite yet.

7 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

See if LeBron can come back from 0-2?

Yupp this will be 2-2 going back to Boston
 

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13 hours ago, oldunclemark said:

  He's young, exerienced  and his offensive numbers are very good...as you say

When the Hawks made the playoffs last year...this guy averaged 20 a game over 6 games

To be accurate.... ..Schroder is a 32% 3-point shooter for his career and has been as high as 35%..that's plenty enough

..and defensive rankings are partly a product of who you play with...as you say, the worst team in the NBA.  We have good coaches......He'd be better with us.

......and this is a tough guy..we've all seen him play

 

If a quality young proven starter says he wants to play with us .because he likes our team and think we're on the rise (his words) that is most definetly a reason to get him if we can fit him into the pay scale.

 

I don't know if this is even a possibility......the Hawks wouild have to want something we have...and they have him locked up for 3 more years..

But if that somethng is our No.1 draft choice...this year and last (TJ Leaf) I'd ignore his 'flaws' and get him in a second.  He's 24

 

 

 

Hawks would absolutely trade him. There is also this hanging over his head. He is on video starting the altercation. Maybe he does time maybe he doesn't....I don't like him...I've watched him play many times. Guy is all about himself...can't shoot and doesn't play defense...try to smooth over the numbers all you want. No way no how do I want this guy. Not trying to be a contrarian but this team has good chemistry...I want the same for the guys coming in.

 

https://www.myajc.com/sports/basketball/hawks-felony-charges-recommended-dennis-schroder-battery-case/4tIeajVBWsirRRMV965huM/

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13 hours ago, oldunclemark said:

Lance and Marcus Smart play with the same attitude but they aren't the same player at all.

Lance is much better offensively and Marcus is much better defensively..and we need a big defensive guard...

WE can get other guys to shoot...

I'd at least make an offer.....it costs us no players or picks..and there's a chance Boston cant afford to keep him..again..here is a young guy who could be with us for years

I get it...and I like Smart...but he can't shoot. Who exactly is Victor suppose to throw the ball out to on his drives when he is pulling guys to the basket. You want to surround him with shooters. I know Smart is an upgrade from Lance but Lance is super cheap...super tough..and has a defined role on this team. Maybe we move on and upgrade...but I'm not sure that Smart is even a good fit to start with our team. Victor is a fine young player...but he isn't exactly a lights out shooter...Smart is not a good shooter...Sabonis is not a great shooter. Turner is ok...Young isn't a great shooter...Bogs is a good shooter. Lance isn't a good shooter. You start smart you send our best 3pt shooter to the bench in Collison. I just don't think as much as he adds defensively he brings enough shooting to help spread our floor. I love the guy. To me he is 6th man of the year type player. Perfect energy guy to come off the bench. If we get him for that role....and we pay him accordingly...ok...but we have to realize he isn't the permanent fix at pg. You won't hear me say any bad things about him...he has a perfect role in Boston...as long as he plays the same role here I'm good. I just don't want to pay 12-15 million for a back up guard when we have as close to Smart as you can get for a couple mil. Lance is still plenty young...now if he gets out of line...or we think we can't control him anymore...so be it. I think Smart wants to compete...wants to start...I don't think on this team it would be the best fit. A team full of shooters that needs a defensive specialist in the West would be guess. He would match up well against Harden, Paul, Mitchell, Thompson's of the west.

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Houston did what they've done all season. Just went off from 3. They have played excellent defense too. People forget they are a good defensive team. Houston has tons of shooters..if they are on...its hard to beat them...but they have made Curry a non-factor last couple games. He can't get an open look. They are doing to Warriors what most teams do to Lebron. Let KD get his...and deny shooters. The difference is GS keeps moving without the ball and gets looks where as Cavs stand around and watch Lebron. This is going to be a good series. I think both teams will win on each others floors. I think it goes 7....and will come down to winning time. I think Houston can win it...I just have to see it though. They are hungry for sure. GS can't match that after 3 consecutive finals.

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Houston needed that one last night in a bad way.  Durant was the only Warrior to show up.  Tucker, Gordon and Ariza all had playoff career highs.  They were on fire from 3.  I still think Golden State wins the next 2 at home.  They got blown out against New Orleans one game on the road too.  As @2006Coltsbestevercoltsbestever said, they'll get my attention if they win one in Golden State.  The Warriors beat themselves when they lose and it's not often.  Way to many turnovers and mental lapses defensively. 

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1 hour ago, dgambill said:

Houston did what they've done all season. Just went off from 3. They have played excellent defense too. People forget they are a good defensive team. Houston has tons of shooters..if they are on...its hard to beat them...but they have made Curry a non-factor last couple games. He can't get an open look. They are doing to Warriors what most teams do to Lebron. Let KD get his...and deny shooters. The difference is GS keeps moving without the ball and gets looks where as Cavs stand around and watch Lebron. This is going to be a good series. I think both teams will win on each others floors. I think it goes 7....and will come down to winning time. I think Houston can win it...I just have to see it though. They are hungry for sure. GS can't match that after 3 consecutive finals.

Houston needs Game 3 IMO, that would put the Warriors behind the 8Ball and get them HCA back. I am not sure Houston can handle the pressure being down 2-1 against the Champs? Warriors did what they had to do, win one in Houston. Winning Game 1 was really huge because they could take last night off. Durant was really the only one that showed up for the Warriors, everyone else was sleep walking. I thought I was watching the Cavs (the way they are playing vs Boston) and not the Warriors last night.

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@oldunclemark I think if your looking for a nice young player to add to the roster this offseason look for the Pacers to go after Aaron Gordon of the Magic. He is good friends with Victor from his days in Orlando and Gordon who is just 22. Avg 17 and 8 last year and I think is ready to take that next step. Solid 3pt shooter...very good in pick and pop and cuts to the basket. Plays the 4 so we would have a nice core of Gordon/Turner at the 4 and Turner/Sabonis at the 5. Gordon can even play the 3 some because of his quickness but really excels at the 4. Put him and Victor in a screen and role situation with Turner stretching the floor would make a very very nice young core. Probably take a max salary but since he is so young that would be around 25 million. Still leave room for us to add another player...maybe even Smart as well.

 

I know Pritchard is looking at trades too....a guy I've kept my eye on is Kemba Walker. I think Charlotte is wanting to wipe the slate clean and go with a reboot and Kemba is a free agent after next year. My issue is what do you trade for him if he is a pending free agent. You can't ask for a fortune because we may not be able to re-sign him if he wants to go elsewhere. Perhaps expiring contracts in Jefferson/Collison and throw in someone like TJ Leaf or our 23rd pick?? That would give us a pretty lethal shooter/scorer at the point to pair with Victor. I know I've heard some rumors about Washington shopping Porter Jr. but I just think his contract is too massive to take on...I think it has a 15% trade kicker. So anyways those are two logical moves that we could make. I think Smart will be a guy we inquire about...just think the money will keep us from making the move on him though. Unless we can nail down a strong #2 scorer to pair with Victor, Smart shouldn't be the main focus.

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10 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Houston needs Game 3 IMO, that would put the Warriors behind the 8Ball and get them HCA back. I am not sure Houston can handle the pressure being down 2-1 against the Champs? Warriors did what they had to do, win one in Houston. Winning Game 1 was really huge because they could take last night off. Durant was really the only one that showed up for the Warriors, everyone else was sleep walking. I thought I was watching the Cavs (the way they are playing vs Boston) and not the Warriors last night.

I don't know if Curry is hurt or what...he doesn't look sharp at all. If he doesn't play better then this series will get really tight. Maybe Durant who has only been to 1 finals with GS still has that hunger...probably Green too...but the rest of the guys...just don't look like they want it as bad as Houston last night.

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1 minute ago, dgambill said:

I don't know if Curry is hurt or what...he doesn't look sharp at all. If he doesn't play better then this series will get really tight. Maybe Durant who has only been to 1 finals with GS still has that hunger...probably Green too...but the rest of the guys...just don't look like they want it as bad as Houston last night.

Games 3 and 4 will show us a lot, of course that is obvious but if the Rockets come out of that 2-2 they are in business, down 3-1 it's over.

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4 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Games 3 and 4 will show us a lot, of course that is obvious but if the Rockets come out of that 2-2 they are in business, down 3-1 it's over.

Agreed...they need to get one back. I just don't think GS wants any part of a game 7 in Houston.....hungry team at home....easy to see Houston getting hot could run GS out of the GYM. You know Paul and Harden want it bad...either way the winner would run circles around the Cavs. Boston I think would be too inexperienced in the Championship.

 

If I'm GS I might just go small ball especially in the fourth. Leave the bigs on the bench and go with Durant, Green, Iggy, Curry, and Thompson...so you can switch everything. Getting those bigs on Harden and Paul will kill them in the long run.

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3 minutes ago, dgambill said:

Agreed...they need to get one back. I just don't think GS wants any part of a game 7 in Houston.....hungry team at home....easy to see Houston getting hot could run GS out of the GYM. You know Paul and Harden want it bad...either way the winner would run circles around the Cavs. Boston I think would be too inexperienced in the Championship.

Game 7 on the road is tough for anyone that is why I think we see the Warriors lay it all out in Games 3 and 4. I agree, whoever wins the West will win it all, probably in 5 over either team in the East.

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1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Game 7 on the road is tough for anyone that is why I think we see the Warriors lay it all out in Games 3 and 4. I agree, whoever wins the West will win it all, probably in 5 over either team in the East.

I just think Houston is such a great shooting team....they get so hot..I would be worried if I'm GS because they could easily steal a game in Oakland. This series isn't over by a long shot like many others said after game 1.

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News from around the league:

1) The Lakers don't consider any of their current players to be untouchable

2) KAT doesn't have a good relationship with the Wolves

3) Suns are open to discussion about the #1 overall pick

4) Memphis is open to discussion about the #4 overall pick

 

Should the Pacers jump in on any of those?  I don't think they have the ammo for the #1 or #4 picks, but maybe looking at what the young Lakers have?

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23 hours ago, 21isSuperman said:

News from around the league:

1) The Lakers don't consider any of their current players to be untouchable

2) KAT doesn't have a good relationship with the Wolves

3) Suns are open to discussion about the #1 overall pick

4) Memphis is open to discussion about the #4 overall pick

 

Should the Pacers jump in on any of those?  I don't think they have the ammo for the #1 or #4 picks, but maybe looking at what the young Lakers have?

I like Kyle Kuzma…...he's score big for us..

I dont now what the Lakers would want...vets to be a playoff team...or more youth..  Itt's doable, though

 

Karl Anthony is a dream...and  coach Thibedeou is hard on him...…...

..and Memphis and Pheonix know they need more than one player

..but you're right...we don't have the trade bait unless its Myles...

 

…..what do you think about trading Myles Turner....? 

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        I think the only players we have who should not be traded are Victor Oladipo, Domantas Sabonis and  Lance Stephenson.

 

I would include Myles except that hes played 3 years and we still don't exactly know what we've got.

Not physical enough...we say that after every season...

...Needs to improve his post moves......we've said that after the first two seasons....

 

But he's 22....he should just now be coming out of college.  I know pretty much what Sabonis is...if we start him and what he is if we bring him off the bench.  And he was good in the post-season...

 

But how good is Myles...going to be?   And how much do we play him if we dont know?

 

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3 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

        I think the only players we have who should not be traded are Victor Oladipo, Domantas Sabonis and  Lance Stephenson.

 

I would include Myles except that hes played 3 years and we still don't exactly know what we've got.

Not physical enough...we say that after every season...

...Needs to improve his post moves......we've said that after the first two seasons....

 

But he's 22....he should just now be coming out of college.  I know pretty much what Sabonis is...if we start him and what he is if we bring him off the bench.  And he was good in the post-season...

 

But how good is Myles...going to be?   And how much do we play him if we dont know?

 

I would have to add Bojan Bogdanovic to that no trade list hands down.

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33 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

I like Kyle Kuzma…...he's score big for us..

I dont now what the Lakers would want...vets to be a playoff team...or more youth..  Itt's doable, though

 

Karl Anthony is a dream...and  coach Thibedeou is hard on him...…...

..and Memphis and Pheonix know they need more than one player

..but you're right...we don't have the trade bait unless its Myles...

 

…..what do you think about trading Myles Turner....? 

I'm not against trading Myles, but we'd need to get a really good return.  He's only 22 years old and has tons of potential.  If he can hit the weight room really hard over the offseason and work on his rebounding, he'd be a monster.  I love his character and he has tons of potential with his physical size, but the rebounding is something that gets me.  A career 6.5 rebounds per game for a guy nearly 7 feet tall playing nearly 28 mins a game isn't very good.

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GAME 3:   Who is Guerschon Yabusele…..??

 

..and why is he in the game for the Celtics

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9 minutes ago, 21isSuperman said:

I'm not against trading Myles, but we'd need to get a really good return.  He's only 22 years old and has tons of potential.  If he can hit the weight room really hard over the offseason and work on his rebounding, he'd be a monster.  I love his character and he has tons of potential with his physical size, but the rebounding is something that gets me.  A career 6.5 rebounds per game for a guy nearly 7 feet tall playing nearly 28 mins a game isn't very good.

Agreed..he's got good spirit. His teammates seem to love him.

But he cant be a top center with rebound numbers like that////

...and in a year..he will want to be paid like a top center

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GAME 3: Cleveland 61, Boston 41....,.at the half..

Boston seems intimidated

 

...why do teams play so much better at home than on the road?

These are grown men (some of them)….Why does it matter so much?

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7 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

GAME 3: Cleveland 61, Boston 41....,.at the half..

Boston seems intimidated

 

...why do teams play so much better at home than on the road?

These are grown men (some of them)….Why does it matter so much?

Home court advantage. The players get more fired up at home with their home town crowd.

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3 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

Home court advantage. The players get more fired up at home with their home town crowd.

really?    You cant get fired up on the road......Championships aren't enough for you...you need cheers??

I dont get it....Cavs aren't that great tonight...Boston just isn't close to the same team they were Tuesday

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1 minute ago, oldunclemark said:

really?    You cant get fired up on the road......Championships aren't enough for you...you need cheers??

I dont get it....Cavs aren't that great tonight...Boston just isn't close to the same team they were Tuesday

All teams have up and down games. The playoffs are no exception.

It's not just a point of cheers. It the energy that the home fans bring. It is real, you know this. I don't understand why you even question it when you already know the answer. :scratch:

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1 hour ago, 21isSuperman said:

 A career 6.5 rebounds per game for a guy nearly 7 feet tall playing nearly 28 mins a game isn't very good.

thats putting it nicely, hes bad at it for a 7 footer

 

lance is a better rebounder than him 

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7 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

All teams have up and down games. The playoffs are no exception.

It's not just a point of cheers. It the energy that the home fans bring. It is real, you know this. I don't understand why you even question it when you already know the answer. :scratch:

You don't know either,  do you?:thinking:

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i wouldnt need an all star for turner, hes never been one himself

 

id consider a young pg or wing with potential.  i like turner but hes not the center we need. we get killed on the boards by the cavs 

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20 minutes ago, aaron11 said:

i wouldnt need an all star for turner, hes never been one himself

 

id consider a young pg or wing with potential.  i like turner but hes not the center we need. we get killed on the boards by the cavs 

...and the upcoming contract negotiations are forcing our hand on making a decision.

I agree..we have to consider what we can get for him

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GAME 3: Cleveland 116, Boston 86,...

…..a limited effort from Boston..(to be kind) .and I don't know why...…...embarassing

 

Good to see old George Hill play well for the Cavs

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5 hours ago, oldunclemark said:

GAME 3: Cleveland 116, Boston 86,...

…..a limited effort from Boston..(to be kind) .and I don't know why...…...embarassing

 

Good to see old George Hill play well for the Cavs

Game was predictable, Cavs got embarrassed 2 games in a row and their season was on the line tonight. Did you think a team with LeBron James on it would get embarrassed 3 games in a row? I had the Cavs winning this by at least 10 going in. Game 4 will be tight, Boston may even win that IMO. I see that as 50/50.

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On ‎5‎/‎18‎/‎2018 at 8:15 PM, 21isSuperman said:

News from around the league:

1) The Lakers don't consider any of their current players to be untouchable

2) KAT doesn't have a good relationship with the Wolves

3) Suns are open to discussion about the #1 overall pick

4) Memphis is open to discussion about the #4 overall pick

 

Should the Pacers jump in on any of those?  I don't think they have the ammo for the #1 or #4 picks, but maybe looking at what the young Lakers have?

It would take a lot to get Kuzma and Ingram from the Lakers. Magic loves both of those players, I don't see LA parting ways with either of those guys. KAT is unhappy, that may be a possibility but we would have to give 2 or 3 players to get him IMO. The #4 pick is intriguing because we may not have to give up Turner or Bogdanovic to get that. Guys I would love to keep are Turner, Bogdanovic, Sabonis, and Lance of course with Dipo. Anyone else we could use for trade bait to maybe get that 4th (but maybe Sabonis). Suns would want Turner and something else for that #1.

 

-Would you guys trade Sabonis and our 23rd pick for the #4? Memphis has Gasol but he's getting older (33) and with Gasol and Sabonis they would have 2 headed monster in the middle + our 23rd. I love Sabonis but they would want something of value for the #4. Sabonis is young and could eventually replace Gasol is how Memphis would benefit from this and we would be getting the #4 pick.

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1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

It would take a lot to get Kuzma and Ingram from the Lakers. Magic loves both of those players, I don't see LA parting ways with either of those guys. KAT is unhappy, that may be a possibility but we would have to give 2 or 3 players to get him IMO. The #4 pick is intriguing because we may not have to give up Turner or Bogdanovic to get that. Guys I would love to keep are Turner, Bogdanovic, Sabonis, and Lance of course with Dipo. Anyone else we could use for trade bait to maybe get that 4th (but maybe Sabonis). Suns would want Turner and something else for that #1.

 

-Would you guys trade Sabonis and our 23rd pick for the #4? Memphis has Gasol but he's getting older (33) and with Gasol and Sabonis they would have 2 headed monster in the middle + our 23rd. I love Sabonis but they would want something of value for the #4. Sabonis is young and could eventually replace Gasol is how Memphis would benefit from this and we would be getting the #4 pick.

As much as I love Sabonis, I'd do that trade easily.  Sabonis + 23rd for the 4th overall pick would be a dream come true.

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2 hours ago, 21isSuperman said:

As much as I love Sabonis, I'd do that trade easily.  Sabonis + 23rd for the 4th overall pick would be a dream come true.

Memphis may want more than that but Sabonis proved this past season he is no joke. Would you trade Sabonis, TJ Leaf, our 23rd and 50th pick for the #4? I just spiced up the pot for Memphis.

 

-Here's another one, would you trade Sabonis, G Robinson, and our 23rd and 50th pick for the #4? Robinson was an Above Average player a couple of years ago and is getting healthy again, he may be decent tradebait? Just got the pot super spicy!

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1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Memphis may want more than that but Sabonis proved this past season he is no joke. Would you trade Sabonis, TJ Leaf, our 23rd and 50th pick for the #4? I just spiced up the pot for Memphis.

 

-Here's another one, would you trade Sabonis, G Robinson, and our 23rd and 50th pick for the #4? Robinson was an Above Average player a couple of years ago and is getting healthy again, he may be decent tradebait? Just got the pot super spicy!

Not sure if I'd trade Sabonis and Robinson since they're both young and have both shown promise.  I'd certainly do the first one though, with Leaf, Sabonis, and our 23rd pick for the #4.

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2 hours ago, 21isSuperman said:

Not sure if I'd trade Sabonis and Robinson since they're both young and have both shown promise.  I'd certainly do the first one though, with Leaf, Sabonis, and our 23rd pick for the #4.

Yeah the Robinson one is pretty tough to decide on. You just never know what other teams may want?

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