Colts offseason discussion / Ballard Grievances (merge)

[ColtStrong2013]

2 minutes ago, Solid84 said:

I was actually thinking the media, but pick your poison. 

 

There is a lot of truth to the concept of not true. 

No one knows what the Hell is going on anymore. So much nonsense out there across the board.

[runthepost]

Jerry Jeudy, DeVante Parker, now Sneed have been almost deals according to Dustin

[Yoshinator]

4 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Do you mean Ballard or this forum?   Just asking.

Ballard and the media.

[ColtStrong2013]

1 minute ago, runthepost said:

Jerry Jeudy, DeVante Parker, now Sneed have been almost deals according to Dustin

 

Maybe he is talking about in his Madden Franchise mode. 

[VikingsFanInChennai]

2 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Here is the clip. She says she thinks closer to draft. Ballard can’t wait that long.

 

 

What does Diana say, in short? I can't play or hear the audio now...

 

How does it vindicate what Destin Adams say? Because she almost was going to send out that the trade is gonna get done soon? If so, both were wrong that the trade is not any close, and their sources weren't accurate.

 

I don't think it's realistic that trade was about to get done, and suddenly they hit a snag. And, at that exact same time just before the snag, multiple reporters got to know that trade was close?

 

That too from the Colts organization you guys generally are proud that Ballard makes sure information doesn't leak mostly? 

 

How does it all happen? Realistically, it's not possible to only know when the trade was so close but they didn't know anything about the snag. 

 

1 hour ago, RollerColt said:

Agreed. Chris has always maintained his position of waiting until after the initial feeding frenzy before going on the attack. 

 

I'm not saying I always agree with this approach, but it's just how he always plays it and will continue to play it. 

It's possible Colts could wait for Sneed situation until the draft and go ahead with other signings. Go ahead, in the sense, Ballard will take his own sweet time to get other free agents in next weeks, not days. Or whenever things work out in each  scenario.

 

I will also point out that just because, Colts didn't have to go over the cap so far and didn't restructure in the past to create more cap space, doesn't mean that Ballard will never do so, as Stephen Holder implies.

 

If a GM says, "I will never restructure players' contracts and push the can down the road on certain players, to create more cap space", either that's not a good GM or he doesn't have a great capologist in the organization.

 

Ballard hasn't done that in the past because he rarely signs many free agents, especially expensive ones, and he didn't have great players at premium positions (QB, WR, EDGE, LT) or many players at these positions getting Elite money at the same time.

 

But, that wouldn't be the case with Richardson getting second contract, by which time there could be a top edge or WR or OT also gets into second contract, and Ballard will definitely have to do some cap tricks.

 

It can be done easily now, by extension / cut / restructure, to clear space for Sneed. Unlike Stephen Holder says, Ballard can this year re-sign all the players he wants AND pay big money to Sneed as well. It's always possible.

 

The question is whether Ballard really shies away from doing so? 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

3 minutes ago, runthepost said:

Jerry Jeudy, DeVante Parker, now Sneed have been almost deals according to Dustin

Do you ever stop and think this was almost done and sneed had a change of heart.  He never said that about jeudy or Parker.

[ColtStrong2013]

Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Do you ever stop and think this was almost done and sneed had a change of heart. 

 

Do you ever stop and think that this whole thing might not even been an actual thing? Like not even at all...

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

1 minute ago, VikingsFanInChennai said:

What does Diana say, in short? I can't play or hear the audio now...

 

How does it vindicate what Destin Adams say? Because she almost was going to send out that the trade is gonna get done soon? If so, both were wrong that the trade is not any close, and their sources weren't accurate.

 

I don't think it's realistic that trade was about to get done, and suddenly they hit a snag. And, at that exact same time just before the snag, multiple reporters got to know that trade was close?

 

That too from the Colts organization you guys generally are proud that Ballard makes sure information doesn't leak mostly? 

 

How does it all happen? Realistically, it's not possible to only know when the trade was so close but they didn't know anything about the snag. 

 

It's possible Colts could wait for Sneed situation until the draft and go ahead with other signings. Go ahead, in the sense, Ballard will take his own sweet time to get other free agents in next weeks, not days. Or whenever things work out in each  scenario.

 

I will also point out that just because, Colts didn't have to go over the cap so far and didn't restructure in the past to create more cap space, doesn't mean that Ballard will never do so, as Stephen Holder implies.

 

If a GM says, "I will never restructure players' contracts and push the can down the road on certain players, to create more cap space", either that's not a good GM or he doesn't have a great capologist in the organization.

 

Ballard hasn't done that in the past because he rarely signs many free agents, especially expensive ones, and he didn't have great players at premium positions (QB, WR, EDGE, LT) or many players at these positions getting Elite money at the same time.

 

But, that wouldn't be the case with Richardson getting second contract, by which time there could be a top edge or WR or OT also gets into second contract, and Ballard will definitely have to do some cap tricks.

 

It can be done easily now, by extension / cut / restructure, to clear space for Sneed. Unlike Stephen Holder says, Ballard can this year re-sign all the players he wants AND pay big money to Sneed as well. It's always possible.

 

The question is whether Ballard really shies away from doing so? 

She said she was ready to fire off the tweet sneed had been traded to colts or titans. Thrn something happened. It’s looking like sneed had been offered a deal to stay in KC so he had a choice to make. 

[GoColts8818]

2 minutes ago, ColtStrong2013 said:

 

Do you ever stop and think that this whole thing might not even been an actual thing? Like not even at all...

No she’s too busy carrying Destin’s water for him because he can’t be wrong despite as someone else pointed out this is now the third time he has been wrong.  I believe she needs to follow her own advice and just stop but she won’t and that’s her right.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

1 minute ago, ColtStrong2013 said:

 

Do you ever stop and think that this whole thing might not even been an actual thing? Like not even at all...

I am logging off of here. Sometimes you guys are just to weird for me. Bye.

[runthepost]

2 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Do you ever stop and think this was almost done and sneed had a change of heart.  He never said that about jeudy or Parker.

You think all the elite to mid level analysts are missing on info that some blogger named Dustin and his mysterious Twitter source ( who has deleted his account) are finding out before they do?

[ADnum1]

30 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

I have to admit I was surprised when he said no discussions.

I wasn't.

 

Its just not Ballard's style to sign big money FA's.

 

I think if there were any conversations it probably went like this.

 

Ballard:  "So Sneed what kind of money are we talking ?"

 

Sneed: "Mr Ballard, I'm looking for a 3 year 75 Million dollar deal".

 

Ballard: "Ok thanks for letting me know" 

 

Ballard hangs up.  "CLICK"

[ChuggaBeer]

I sure wish Princeton Tiger was here with his words of wisdom 

 

 

 

 

[ColtStrong2013]

Just now, PRnum1 said:

I wasn't.

 

Its just not Ballard's style to sign big money FA's.

 

I think if there were any conversations it probably went like this.

 

Ballard:  "So Sneed what kind of money are we talking ?"

 

Sneed: "Mr Ballard, I'm looking for a 3 year 75 Million dollar deal".

 

Ballard: "Ok thanks for letting me know" 

 

Ballard hangs up.  "CLICK"

 

I'm not sure he'd hang up like that. He'd probably be more inclined to be like

 

"well look. I think you are a hell of a football player. That's a little high for us, but we wish you the best...." 

Click. 

 

"...what an *..."

[ColtStrong2013]

1 minute ago, ColtStrong2013 said:

 

I'm not sure he'd hang up like that. He'd probably be more inclined to be like

 

"well look. I think you are a hell of a football player. That's a little high for us, but we wish you the best...." 

Click. 

 

"...what an *..."

 

 

[Shive]

Personally, I don't put a ton of faith in Schefter's comments. Time will tell what the actual truth is, but I find it hard to believe multiple people had the same reporting of progressing trade talks, the Colts haven't made a single move since those talks supposedly began, and suddenly Shefter (who hasn't had any reporting on this so far) says that the two teams never had a single conversation with a smug * grin on his face.

 

There's always the chance that Destin  was fed purposefully incorrect info and things weren't as far along as reported, but I don't buy what Shefter is selling. You're telling me our front office never made a single call to ask about Sneed? I don't buy it.

[ADnum1]

12 minutes ago, runthepost said:

Jerry Jeudy, DeVante Parker, now Sneed have been almost deals according to Dustin

The young man must have alot of free time on his hands making stuff up

[VikingsFanInChennai]

46 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Now Shefty says no talks went on. I have never seen even in national media so many different reports. I don’t think anyone knows what’s going on.

Where did Schefter say so?

 

I don't find any such tweets from his timeline in X? 

[ColtStrong2013]

Just now, Shive said:

There's always the chance that Destin  was fed purposefully incorrect info and things weren't as far along as reported, but I don't buy what Shefter is selling.

 

Ha.. this is absolute. 

There are a whole lot of smoke and mirrors going on in the Colts organization at any given time, you can be sure. Jim Irsay is the Master Ring Leader of the circus. I've said it between once and a million times on here. Just pay attention and you'll see how he manipulates things. Ballard is very good at it too, which is why he isn't going anywhere, in my opinion. 

[Shive]

Just now, VikingsFanInChennai said:

Where did Schefter say so?

 

I don't find any such tweets from guys timeline in X? 

His comments were made on Pat McAfee's show

[JediXMan]

24 minutes ago, Solid84 said:

What a clownshow…

Can we fast forward to the draft already. 😂 

[GoColts8818]

7 minutes ago, VikingsFanInChennai said:

Where did Schefter say so?

 

I don't find any such tweets from his timeline in X? 

Pat McAfee show which has been posted in the thread 

[ADnum1]

Isn't it liars month anyways ?

 

Are Colts fans believing every lie they hear ?

[NewColtsFan]

32 minutes ago, Solid84 said:

What a clownshow…

From the outside.   Yes it looks that way from the outside.   But I’m sure it’s very different from the inside.  There’s a plan, and a series of backup plans.  

[tweezy32]

I hope no one actually believes that there was no conversations about sneed lol.. like no way all these reports were out and everyone and there mother talked about there was definitely talks, now Shefter wants to finally come out and say there was no conversation? Not buying it. 

[NewColtsFan]

23 minutes ago, PRnum1 said:

I wasn't.

 

Its just not Ballard's style to sign big money FA's.

 

I think if there were any conversations it probably went like this.

 

Ballard:  "So Sneed what kind of money are we talking ?"

 

Sneed: "Mr Ballard, I'm looking for a 3 year 75 Million dollar deal".

 

Ballard: "Ok thanks for letting me know" 

 

Ballard hangs up.  "CLICK"

For what it’s worth….   Ballard doesn’t have these conversations.   The Colts cap specialist Mike Bluem talks directly to the players agent.   Ballard and the player are typically kept out until there’s a deal. 

[jvan1973]

55 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

He didn’t lie and he had sources and that was corroborated.

Russini was probably his source

[GoColts8818]

13 minutes ago, PRnum1 said:

Isn't it liars month anyways ?

 

Are Colts fans believing every lie they hear ?

Some are.  Others are screaming being skeptical but it’s not going over well because it’s not news that some want to hear.

[BlackTiger]

So uh what other free agents are we looking at?

 

Too soon for this?

[tweezy32]

 

[GoColts8818]

2 minutes ago, tweezy32 said:

 

Even if that was true, which it’s not he broke several free agents staying with the Colts last week, Holder who is connected reported the samething.  This is wannabe twitter insiders having each others back.  Again who do you trust Schefter or someone on twitter?  This place would be a lot better off if we stopped treating the latter like they are legit reporters.  They aren’t.

[tweezy32]

Another reason why I know we have had talks is because why haven’t we signed anyone then at CB or even safety? We are at a need at these positions but haven’t gotten anyone? Just weird to me we wouldn’t have signed anyone else if we weren’t actually in talks with sneed.

[DougDew]

6 minutes ago, BlackTiger said:

So uh what other free agents are we looking at?

 

Too soon for this?

No.  Should have been discussed about 25 pages ago.

[GoColts8818]

1 minute ago, tweezy32 said:

Another reason why I know we have had talks is because why haven’t we signed anyone then at CB or even safety? We are at a need at these positions but haven’t gotten anyone? Just weird to me we wouldn’t have signed anyone else if we weren’t actually in talks with sneed.

It’s week two of free agency not the start of training camp.  Give it time.  
 

Also, I know people don’t want to hear this but I don’t think Ballard feels the corner room is as bad as some think.  They have three young corners they like plus Kenny.  Yes safety needs work but that could also be addressed in the draft.

 

Also, maybe they did kick the tires on Sneed and decided yep nope.  It will take a little time to recalibrate from that and adjust their focus.

[NewColtsFan]

1 hour ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

If Sneed was just using the colts that is just wrong.

 

In the immortal words of The Godfather….

 

“It’s not personal, it’s business.”

[tweezy32]

Just now, GoColts8818 said:

It’s week two of free agency not the start of training camp.  Give it time.

Yes week 2 and all the CB that we should have went after are gone.

[GoColts8818]

3 minutes ago, tweezy32 said:

Yes week 2 and all the CB that we should have went after are gone.

In your opinion.  You aren’t the general manager.  Ballard might have a different opinion than you.  Who knows maybe he has one he loves he’s targeting at 15 in the draft.  There are going to be a lot of good ones there.  
 

Also, the corner market really just started moving over the weekend.

[jskinnz]

44 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

I am logging off of here. Sometimes you guys are just to weird for me. Bye.

Something about a pot and kettle feels appropriate here. 

[GoColts8818]

13 minutes ago, BlackTiger said:

So uh what other free agents are we looking at?

 

Too soon for this?

We as in fans?  I assume the same safeties we’ve been mentioning.  Some corners as well.  People haven’t really focused on that because of all the Sneed stuff.

 

As for the Colts?  No idea.

[Dobbinblitz]

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