Gruden

[life long]

8 hours ago, smittywerb said:

 

its call being apart of the “Good Ol Boys”.  If you feel comfortable doing something, it means that you’ve been doing it for a while.  
 

I mean don’t get me wrong, as men, we’ve all had conversations about attractive women in our workplaces.  But sending pornographic material of them to each other in the workplace without consent from the woman? Wow.  That’s bold.  

To the bolded... my question is how did they get top less photos of the cheerleaders to begin with?

[jvan1973]

9 minutes ago, life long said:

To the bolded... my question is how did they get top less photos of the cheerleaders to begin with?

I risqué photo shoot for a calendar.   The girls were top less but in the pictures for the calendar the intimate parts were covered.   So in the videos there was footage of the girls naked.   That footage wasn't supposed to be released.   Word is Bruce Allen asked for a supercut of the unreleased footage.    He denies it,  of coarse.   I'm not sure if the actual existence of the video has been "confirmed" or not.    

[life long]

34 minutes ago, cdgacoltsfan said:

Simpson, who only butchered two people, is also still on the Bills Wall of fame. Why isn't  cancel culture all over this one ?

There a lots of people in the NFL with criminal histories. Gruden wasn't fired for a crime, he was fired over being a *. That said its common place in competitive sports for coaches and players to regularly use obscene and offensive language. The NFL is just trying to curb the reality of its business.  Gruden is just the sacrificial lamb. Heck Tyreek Hill said on record his Fiance and child should fear him after an investigation into abuse, yet nothing. Obviously many people don't know how awful people can talk when they think they are in private.

[jvan1973]

1 hour ago, cdgacoltsfan said:

Simpson, who only butchered two people, is also still on the Bills Wall of fame. Why isn't  cancel culture all over this one ?

I think OJ is guilty,   however 12 of his peers disagreed.     He faced the music and was found not guilty.     Now. He did try to rob some folks at gun point and try to get some of his memorabilia back.   He spent some time in prison for that.    

[NFLfan]

1 hour ago, cdgacoltsfan said:

Simpson, who only butchered two people, is also still on the Bills Wall of fame. Why isn't  cancel culture all over this one ?

 

The Bills are not the Buccaneers. This decision was made by the Bucs. 

 

Bring this up with the Bills. This thread is not about Simpson or who the Bills choose to honor. 

[NFLfan]

1 hour ago, life long said:

There a lots of people in the NFL with criminal histories. Gruden wasn't fired for a crime, he was fired over being a *. That said its common place in competitive sports for coaches and players to regularly use obscene and offensive language. The NFL is just trying to curb the reality of its business.  Gruden is just the sacrificial lamb. Heck Tyreek Hill said on record his Fiance and child should fear him after an investigation into abuse, yet nothing. Obviously many people don't know how awful people can talk when they think they are in private.

 

Gruden is in a position of power. So are Bruce Allen and all those with whom they exchanged these emails and pictures.

 

[smittywerb]

1 hour ago, life long said:

To the bolded... my question is how did they get top less photos of the cheerleaders to begin with?

probably was sent to someone who shared it with the boys and then from there who knows. 

[NFLfan]

@Fluke_33  I would like to listen to Keyshawn Johnson's show. Where can I access it? 

 

I'm surprised about what you reported in the other thread. Bruce Allen is awful. Someone wrote that wherever he goes he destroys teams. I wonder why he kept getting rehired. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

16 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

@Fluke_33  I would like to listen to Keyshawn Johnson's show. Where can I access it? 

 

I'm surprised about what you reported in the other thread. Bruce Allen is awful. Someone wrote that wherever he goes he destroys teams. I wonder why he kept getting rehired. 

He is on at 6am, in Mike and Mike's old spot on ESPN 2.

[Fluke_33]

7 hours ago, NFLfan said:

@Fluke_33  I would like to listen to Keyshawn Johnson's show. Where can I access it? 

 

I'm surprised about what you reported in the other thread. Bruce Allen is awful. Someone wrote that wherever he goes he destroys teams. I wonder why he kept getting rehired. 

2006colts is right.  He’s on espn radio.  It was the first hour yesterday after they talked about kyrie.  
 

at the 33 min mark here:

 

https://www.espn.com/radio/play/_/id/32398910/_/s/espn

 

 

[NFLfan]

19 minutes ago, Fluke_33 said:

2006colts is right.  He’s on espn radio.  It was the first hour yesterday after they talked about kyrie.  
 

at the 33 min mark here:

 

https://www.espn.com/radio/play/_/id/32398910/_/s/espn

 

 

7 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

He is on at 6am, in Mike and Mike's old spot on ESPN 2.

 

Thank you. I have been listening for about an hour but they have not discussed it today. 

 

Thank you for the link, @Fluke_33. I will listen.

 

Btw, where is Greeny? Is he still with ESPN? I used to enjoy listening to Mike and Mike with Greeny and Golic. Neither seem to be on the radio anymore.

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

 

Thank you. I have been listening for about an hour but they have not discussed it today. 

 

Thank you for the link, @Fluke_33. I will listen.

 

Btw, where is Greeny? Is he still with ESPN? I used to enjoy listening to Mike and Mike with Greeny and Golic. Neither seem to be on the radio anymore.

Yes, he is still on ESPN. Golic isn't.

[Fluke_33]

2 hours ago, NFLfan said:

 

 

Thank you. I have been listening for about an hour but they have not discussed it today. 

 

Thank you for the link, @Fluke_33. I will listen.

 

Btw, where is Greeny? Is he still with ESPN? I used to enjoy listening to Mike and Mike with Greeny and Golic. Neither seem to be on the radio anymore.

Mike and Mike broke up unfortunately.  I was just looking into the reasons why because i agree they were so good toghether.  Greenberg said they still text but the staff on the show said their relationship was strained towards the end.

 

Greenberg is on still.  I like him but its not the same without golic.

[NFLfan]

2 hours ago, Fluke_33 said:

Mike and Mike broke up unfortunately.  I was just looking into the reasons why because i agree they were so good toghether.  Greenberg said they still text but the staff on the show said their relationship was strained towards the end.

 

Greenberg is on still.  I like him but its not the same without golic.

 

Thank you. I knew they broke up but I wondered if they each were still on ESPN. I have not seen either in a while. The Mike & Mike Show became "Golic & Wingo". I'm not sure why Golic and Trey Wingo are not together anymore but I liked them. I liked Golic Jr. too.

 

Re Mike and Mike split: I had heard/read that Golic Sr. was upset because Greeny did not tell him that he was looking to leave the Mike & Mike show and do something on TV, which would be on at the same time as the Mike & Mike Show. Golic is a team guy and always said players should not air or leak team-related stuff. He never talked on the air about being upset with Greeny. It was other people from ESPN that said that their relationship was strained.

 

I wished they had stayed together. I probably would still be listening to sports talk radio. I have not listened to sports talk radio for over 3 years. There is this one sports talk show host in NY that I always enjoy. He is a former radio host for a Rock and Roll radio station, WNEW. He is a very good writer too. His name is Richard Neer. He wrote the book "The Rise and Fall of Rock Radio". Maybe tomorrow morning I will listen to Richard, (that is if he still has a show). He will probably talk about this incident. 

 

[Fluke_33]

2 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

The Rise and Fall of Rock Radio

I'm going to look into that.  Lately I've been getting books on tape though an app from the library but if they don't have it i'll get a physical copy.   I am going on vacation in 3 weeks so i'll need something to read

[CoachLite]

On 10/11/2021 at 7:48 PM, Nadine said:

it is mind boggling

 

 

Does that make Gruden an equal opportunity slanderer?

 

[DougDew]

Gruden isn't being punished for his actions, apparently, but for his Thoughts as well.  Pretty scary.   The problem with cancel culture is that it takes some pretty righteous people to appoint themselves mind readers and interpreters of other's thoughts, then apply punitive actions.  They are in a position to punish, so they appoint themselves ideology judge.  My god how scary is that.

 

Gruden seems to be a very impolite person.  I was taught at about age 10 that you do not mock people for their appearances, or willfully covet their body parts.  To talk smack about someone's body features, or share photos of people who represent the NFL is akin to having no calibration as to what is humorous, and what is hurtful.  A big mouth like that tries to talk cool with the boys...is at least an annoying person to start with.  Seems like it makes for (good?) 8th grade humor, but not for a leadership position in a professional organization.  Gruden probably liked Don Rickles as a comedian.  (He was funny at times, but overall I got uneasy and shocked more than laughed, and that was as a know nothing teenager in the 1970s when I didn't have a bunch of righteous people telling me how I should think.  I left that type of education to my parents and Pastor.)

 

[King Colt]

It has not been so long that the NFL was forced to interview and hire minority people and how many years has it been since the Redskins became the Football Team? Gruden was a jerk but he was not alone he just got caught and now getting caught can mean just a rumor. Cancel culture has destroyed many careers.

[jvan1973]

15 minutes ago, King Colt said:

It has not been so long that the NFL was forced to interview and hire minority people and how many years has it been since the Redskins became the Football Team? Gruden was a jerk but he was not alone he just got caught and now getting caught can mean just a rumor. Cancel culture has destroyed many careers.

Wow,  you continue to be wrong .   You think Romanowski was a good guy,  now Gruden.   

[rock8591]

All I'll say is when I grew up, I've had K-6 teachers inflicted corporal punishment and have said things far worse than what Gruden did.

 

Bob Knight himself would be a mild mannered man in my mind.

[Four2itus]

I will not comment on whether or not JG should have lost his job.

 

What I will comment on, is that the messages that he sent to someone, and if they found them offensive, didn't say or do anything, and left that line of communication open for him to send them again? That person also shares some of the guilt. 

 

When someone sends anything inappropriate to me or just off color to what I want to see in my email, I give them one warning, and then I block them. My own brother still can't email me because I don't want to see his political crap. 

[King Colt]

5 hours ago, jvan1973 said:

Wow,  you continue to be wrong .   You think Romanowski was a good guy,  now Gruden.   

Wow! you really cannot understand a single sentence. You guess that Romanowski (not Romo) has CTE you need to get your self check out.

[jvan1973]

4 hours ago, King Colt said:

Wow! you really cannot understand a single sentence. You guess that Romanowski (not Romo) has CTE you need to get your self check out.

https://www.google.com/search?q=bill+romanowski+nickname&sxsrf=AOaemvK85iS66m-3iNwfMxKyw2Ozn472yw%3A1635507060386&ei=dNt7YbvvFo-FtQaQsZ3QBg&oq=bill+romanowskinic&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAEYADIHCCMQsAIQJzIFCAAQhgMyBwghEAoQoAE6BAgAEEc6BAgAEA06BAguEA1QmBJY1hdgtiBoAHABeACAAYMBiAHZApIBAzAuM5gBAKABAcgBCMABAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp

[King Colt]

10 hours ago, jvan1973 said:

https://www.google.com/search?q=bill+romanowski+nickname&sxsrf=AOaemvK85iS66m-3iNwfMxKyw2Ozn472yw%3A1635507060386&ei=dNt7YbvvFo-FtQaQsZ3QBg&oq=bill+romanowskinic&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAEYADIHCCMQsAIQJzIFCAAQhgMyBwghEAoQoAE6BAgAEEc6BAgAEA06BAguEA1QmBJY1hdgtiBoAHABeACAAYMBiAHZApIBAzAuM5gBAKABAcgBCMABAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp

Zero: The point is calling Romanowski "Romo' when  know a famous former QB and current popular broadcaster's name is Romo is just plain stupid. Unitas was "Johnny U" not be be confused with anyone else. I see you have backed off on me saying Gruden is a good guy when I wrote he "is a jerk."

[jvan1973]

1 hour ago, King Colt said:

Zero: The point is calling Romanowski "Romo' when  know a famous former QB and current popular broadcaster's name is Romo is just plain stupid. Unitas was "Johnny U" not be be confused with anyone else. I see you have backed off on me saying Gruden is a good guy when I wrote he "is a jerk."

I have decided to ignore your posts going forward, like most here already do.   There isn't one poster i respect here that agrees with you about anything.   You are basically considered a joke by most.   I'll leave you with the fact that Romo himself thinks he has CTE.  Enjoy

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2016/02/05/former-lb-bill-romanowski-most-nfl-players-likely-have-cte/79904662/

 

 

[NFLfan]

4 hours ago, King Colt said:

Zero: The point is calling Romanowski "Romo' when  know a famous former QB and current popular broadcaster's name is Romo is just plain stupid

 

3 hours ago, jvan1973 said:

I have decided to ignore your posts going forward, like most here already do.   There isn't one poster i respect here that agrees with you about anything.   You are basically considered a joke by most.   I'll leave you with the fact that Romo himself thinks he has CTE.  Enjoy

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2016/02/05/former-lb-bill-romanowski-most-nfl-players-likely-have-cte/79904662/

 

 

 

Romanowski played before Tony Romo and he called himself Romo. Even his book is titled Romo.

 

 

[King Colt]

On 10/29/2021 at 6:03 PM, jvan1973 said:

I have decided to ignore your posts going forward, like most here already do.   There isn't one poster i respect here that agrees with you about anything.   You are basically considered a joke by most.   I'll leave you with the fact that Romo himself thinks he has CTE.  Enjoy

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2016/02/05/former-lb-bill-romanowski-most-nfl-players-likely-have-cte/79904662/

 

 

Written by a fool of fools Don't let the door hit you in your brain.......

On 10/29/2021 at 9:59 PM, NFLfan said:

 

 

Romanowski played before Tony Romo and he called himself Romo. Even his book is titled Romo.

 

 

"He" did. not some loser on a website