Jordan Love might be available for trade... Should we do it??

[Indeee]

Yea, let's trade all our 1st round picks for the next three years to the Packers for a guy who can't throw into a stationary NET.... 

 

From this morning Jan. 26th, 2021

 

ESPN's Rob Demovsky said Packers backup QB Tim Boyle "would be more suited" than Jordan Love to start in 2021 if Aaron Rodgers is traded or retires this offseason. 

In other words, the Packers would be in bad spot if Rodgers isn't in green and yellow next season. Demovsky said "nothing [Love] has shown, at least publicly, would suggest" he's ready to replace Rodgers a year after the Packers inexplicably drafted Love in the first round. Packers beat writers have written extensively since last summer that Love is an erratic passer who appears over his head in Green Bay's offense. "Love has struggled with accuracy -- in the drill where quarterbacks throw to a stationary target (usually a net) and to players running routes on air (without a defender)," Demovsky said. He suggested the team's best course might be to trade Love, like the Patriots did with Jimmy Garoppolo when Tom Brady was unhappy about New England drafting his successor. That Love isn't locked in as Green Bay's starter post-Rodgers is an indictment of the entire organization. 

 

Second coming of MaHomes aye @stitches ? seems like this guy couldn't hit the side of my MaHome standing two feet in front of it.... 

 

What a joke, then and now...

 

Enjoy!!

 

 

 

 

[danlhart87]

This definitely deserved a thread of its own 

[Indeee]

4 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

This definitely deserved a thread of its own 

Oh it most certainly did... 

 

 

[Defjamz26]

@stitchesI know your heart is probably pounding out of your chest hearing this lol.

[UKColt13]

Good grief

[cdgacoltsfan]

25 minutes ago, Indeee said:

Yea, let's trade all our 1st round picks for the next three years to the Packers for a guy who can't throw into a stationary NET.... 

 

From this morning Jan. 26th, 2021

 

ESPN's Rob Demovsky said Packers backup QB Tim Boyle "would be more suited" than Jordan Love to start in 2021 if Aaron Rodgers is traded or retires this offseason. 

In other words, the Packers would be in bad spot if Rodgers isn't in green and yellow next season. Demovsky said "nothing [Love] has shown, at least publicly, would suggest" he's ready to replace Rodgers a year after the Packers inexplicably drafted Love in the first round. Packers beat writers have written extensively since last summer that Love is an erratic passer who appears over his head in Green Bay's offense. "Love has struggled with accuracy -- in the drill where quarterbacks throw to a stationary target (usually a net) and to players running routes on air (without a defender)," Demovsky said. He suggested the team's best course might be to trade Love, like the Patriots did with Jimmy Garoppolo when Tom Brady was unhappy about New England drafting his successor. That Love isn't locked in as Green Bay's starter post-Rodgers is an indictment of the entire organization. 

 

Second coming of MaHomes aye @stitches ? seems like this guy couldn't hit the side of my MaHome standing two feet in front of it.... 

 

What a joke, then and now...

 

Enjoy!!

 

 

 

 

[stitches]

17 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

@stitchesI know your heart is probably pounding out of your chest hearing this lol.

 

[GoColts8818]

If the Packers are willing to give up on a first round pick that they traded up to get after one year that’s a Trent Richardson sized red flag to me.

[Orioles22]

So many Jordan Love fans on here last year. I started to really dislike the guy, due in large part to them. I thought we dodged a bullet when we traded that pick and stayed away from him.

[stitches]

All I'm going to say is... Jordan Love has shown to Green Bay media about the same amount Jacob Eason has shown to Indy media. Have no idea whatsoever how any of them can have any sort of opinion on him by watching PRECISELY ZERO snaps of him in any sort of action this year. Now, the reports were not great coming out of camp, but again... the most they've seen in camp is a couple of practices where he's probably not thrown more than 10-15 balls.

 

It's not like people didn't expect Love to need some time to get ready. Now I too have about the same level of insight on Love and his progression so I can't say much, but if they are willing to trade him, IMO that doesn't bode well for his prospects. If you trade up in the 1st for a QB and a year later you've given up on him, then there must be something that's not inspiring confidence and thus... I'd be reluctant to trade for him unless it's as a reclaimation project(i.e. 3d round pick or lower) rather than as a presumtive QB of the future. 

 

Also just for the record Rob Demovsky is a local Aaron Rodgers loyalist. 

 

 

[chad72]

Nah, they chose to hedge their wagon to Jordan Love. We should not bail them out. There was a reason why we did not move up for Jordan Love, whether it was the interview process or whether it was because they felt he wasn't first round value. If they did not feel he was first round value then, they are not going to believe he is now.

 

 

[Nesjan3]

Id be blown away if theres any truth to this. Its the same with the Hurtz traded out of philly rumors. Since when has it been established that if your drafted in the NFL you have to start immediately. Love or Hurtz are on rookie contracts not going anywhere, they will sit behind the respective starters (Wentz, Rodgers) till its time. People forget Aaron sat behind Favre for 3 seasons

[Valpo2004]

If the Pack wants to trade him away already I would say that we shouldn't give up more than a 6th round pick for him.  And that might be stretching it.  

 

 

[stitches]

1 hour ago, Indeee said:

ESPN's Rob Demovsky said Packers backup QB Tim Boyle "would be more suited" than Jordan Love to start in 2021 if Aaron Rodgers is traded or retires this offseason. 

In other words, the Packers would be in bad spot if Rodgers isn't in green and yellow next season. Demovsky said "nothing [Love] has shown, at least publicly, would suggest" he's ready to replace Rodgers a year after the Packers inexplicably drafted Love in the first round. Packers beat writers have written extensively since last summer that Love is an erratic passer who appears over his head in Green Bay's offense. "Love has struggled with accuracy -- in the drill where quarterbacks throw to a stationary target (usually a net) and to players running routes on air (without a defender)," Demovsky said. He suggested the team's best course might be to trade Love, like the Patriots did with Jimmy Garoppolo when Tom Brady was unhappy about New England drafting his successor. That Love isn't locked in as Green Bay's starter post-Rodgers is an indictment of the entire organization. 

 

Second coming of MaHomes aye @stitches ? seems like this guy couldn't hit the side of my MaHome standing two feet in front of it.... 

 

What a joke, then and now...

 

Enjoy!!

This is such nonsense and you know it is nonsense. Why should I take a Rodgers loyalist's opinion on Love over what I've seen of him and numerous others have seen of him pre-draft... and what made the Packers trade up for him. Accuracy was never a major knock on him. When kept clean he was acutally one of the most accurate QBs in college football. It was his  decisionmaking that he was dragged for. "nothing [Love] has shown, at least publicly, would suggest he's ready to replace Rodgers". Now ask yourself what has Rob Demovsky seen publicly of Jordan Love? He's seen NOTHING... or close to nothing since camp. He's seen about as much of him as Kevin Bowen and Stephen Holder and me and you have seen of Jacob Eason... NOTHING. I would bet you he's not seen more than about 20-30 throws Jordan Love has made since entering the NFL and that's in a practice setting. 

 

And since you are calling me out by name for things I've never said I would like to point out that I never said he would be the "second coming of Mahomes". When I'm throwing out comparisons I've said multiple times that I'm doing a stylistic/traits comparison and not an expectation of similar or better success(because there are so many more things than that that go into how the player's career will develop). So yes... Jordan Love plays incredibly similar style to Mahomes, but there are obviously reasons why he wasn't drafted no.1 or hell even no. 10 where Mahomes went. 

 

And one more thing - Jordan Love very well might bust. The reasons for that could be many. Either way... it won't be my first miss and it won't be my last miss. NFL GMs miss on about 50% of their early round picks and 70-90% of their mid-late round picks... I promise you I won't be better than them and I have no illusions about it. 

 

 

 

[Indeee]

59 minutes ago, stitches said:

This is such nonsense and you know it is nonsense. Why should I take a Rodgers loyalist's opinion on Love over what I've seen of him and numerous others have seen of him pre-draft... and what made the Packers trade up for him. Accuracy was never a major knock on him. When kept clean he was acutally one of the most accurate QBs in college football. It was his  decisionmaking that he was dragged for. "nothing [Love] has shown, at least publicly, would suggest he's ready to replace Rodgers". Now ask yourself what has Rob Demovsky seen publicly of Jordan Love? He's seen NOTHING... or close to nothing since camp. He's seen about as much of him as Kevin Bowen and Stephen Holder and me and you have seen of Jacob Eason... NOTHING. I would bet you he's not seen more than about 20-30 throws Jordan Love has made since entering the NFL and that's in a practice setting. 

 

And since you are calling me out by name for things I've never said I would like to point out that I never said he would be the "second coming of Mahomes". When I'm throwing out comparisons I've said multiple times that I'm doing a stylistic/traits comparison and not an expectation of similar or better success(because there are so many more things than that that go into how the player's career will develop). So yes... Jordan Love plays incredibly similar style to Mahomes, but there are obviously reasons why he wasn't drafted no.1 or hell even no. 10 where Mahomes went. 

 

And one more thing - Jordan Love very well might bust. The reasons for that could be many. Either way... it won't be my first miss and it won't be my last miss. NFL GMs miss on about 50% of their early round picks and 70-90% of their mid-late round picks... I promise you I won't be better than them and I have no illusions about it. 

 

 

 

It doesn't just mention Demvosky, it mentions Packers beat writers as in Plural and their observations over time. Clearly you cannot read or assess an item article properly so why would anyone think you could assess a player as well. You're whole "Demovsky hates Love cause Demovsky loves Rodgers" defense is bunk when ALL packers beat writers have been stating this guy ain't all that.... Your failing to acknowledge that is what is nonsense.... I am not claiming to know anything other than what my eyes tell me and what the PRO's outa GB are telling me, oh and the "PRO" talent evaluators on here... Which one of these three doesn't fit in this circumstance? When a major outlet as roto posts it, I don't believe it can be viewed as nonsense

 

 

[DaColts85]

14 minutes ago, Indeee said:

It doesn't just mention Demvosky, it mentions Packers beat writers as in Plural and their observations over time. Clearly you cannot read or assess an item article properly so why would anyone think you could assess a player as well. You're whole "Demovsky hates Love cause Demovsky loves Rodgers" defense is bunk when ALL packers beat writers have been stating this guy ain't all that.... Your failing to acknowledge that is what is nonsense.... I am not claiming to know anything other than what my eyes tell me and what the PRO's outa GB are telling me, oh and the "PRO" talent evaluators on here... Which one of these three doesn't fit in this circumstance? When a major outlet as roto posts it, I don't believe it can be viewed as nonsense

 

 

My only question would be the NFL this year based on COVID protocol allotted 30 minutes to local media at the beginning of practice. Which means they saw stretching. With this you could merely have guys referring to camp that was what 6 months ago? Just curious of what they would be talking about in all honesty. 
 

For the record I was not a Love fan but this just seems like @stitches said a local writer and or two writers that are a Rodgers fan putting out a piece to make sure and back their guy. Dog the competition. Here in Indy you have Doyle who is known as this type of writer in regards to local sports players and coaches. 

[stitches]

28 minutes ago, Indeee said:

It doesn't just mention Demvosky, it mentions Packers beat writers as in Plural and their observations over time. Clearly you cannot read or assess an item article properly so why would anyone think you could assess a player as well. You're whole "Demovsky hates Love cause Demovsky loves Rodgers" defense is bunk when ALL packers beat writers have been stating this guy ain't all that.... Your failing to acknowledge that is what is nonsense.... I am not claiming to know anything other than what my eyes tell me and what the PRO's outa GB are telling me, oh and the "PRO" talent evaluators on here... Which one of these three doesn't fit in this circumstance? When a major outlet as roto posts it, I don't believe it can be viewed as nonsense

The only PROs in GB are the ones that traded up for Love. So they believed in his talent enough to give up extra compensation and move up in the 1st to get him. They are also the only ones that have actually watched him throughout the year. Acting like Demovsky is not a Rodgers loyalist who's hated this pick from the very start is disingenuous. Shasta posted the full history of the reports about Love's struggles in camp in the other thread, you can check it out if you want.

 

And again I will keep telling you the same - Demovsky and ALL of GB reporters have seen about as much of Love since training camp as me and you have seen from Eason(I personally have seen ZERO). Now you can act as if reports of a training camp practice struggle in COVID-disrupted off-season of a rookie QB who was supposed to be raw is some sort of big deal that means they are ready to trade him or that they no longer believe in him, but unless there is an actual report about that rather than pure conjecture based ENTIRELY on those couple of practices in training camp and NOTHING SINCE, I will be reluctant to believe anything coming out of Demovsky. 

 

For whatever it's worth, IF GB indeed is willing to give him up 1 year after they took him, then IMO there is something wrong with him and his approach/attitude/ability to grasp concepts, etc (or the evaluation was just bad and he's not good and showing no promise). So I WILL believe that information and I will take it much more seriously than Demovsky's petty narrative push. If GB want to give up on Love a year after they traded up for him, then I would be much less interested in him, which is kind of the paradox here. 

[Shive]

 

No more productive conversation to be had here.