Colts Training Camp 8/16/2018

[SaturdayAllDay]

23 minutes ago, DougDew said:

They weren't "welcomed back" to hang around on the sidelines.  They were hired as part of the team.  If Manning was hired in that capacity, I would think he would be at TC too.  

 

I certainly wouldn't think PM could just show up during a game and walk along the sideline because he's PM.  TCs sort of the same thing, just less intense and visible.

They absolutely invite former "alumni" players to come hang out and watch camp/ practice. These guys werent there coaching. 

 

https://www.colts.com/news/colts-alumni-catch-up-and-look-back-at-colts-training-camp

[MB-ColtsFan]

18 hours ago, Shive said:

That was his big issues coming into the draft. Hand usage, counters, and just a general lack of a pass rushing arsenal. Luckily these things are extremely coachable. It may take a bit, but I think as soon as it clicks, he'll be really good.

Back on topic...

Well, he's got a great player to learn from.  If Mathis is half as good at coaching as he was a player, our edge guys will be very good.  Just need some game experience at this level.  I am hopeful.

 

[Gramz]

1 minute ago, MB-ColtsFan said:

Back on topic...

Well, he's got a great player to learn from.  If Mathis is half as good at coaching as he was a player, our edge guys will be very good.  Just need some game experience at this level.  I am hopeful.

 

Me too.   I am pretty optimistic right now!

[DougDew]

25 minutes ago, SaturdayAllDay said:

They absolutely invite former "alumni" players to come hang out and watch camp/ practice. These guys werent there coaching. 

 

https://www.colts.com/news/colts-alumni-catch-up-and-look-back-at-colts-training-camp

Fine.   There aren't many who would cast a big shadow, so nobody cares about them.

 

I doubt GB would want Farve hanging around TC a few years after he left, considering what they drafted Rodgers to be (notwithstanding the fact that Farve seems like a perpetual grudge holder).   

 

The reason PM is in Denver's TC and not here seems obvious to me, but I guess I'm in my own world.

 

But Irsay might bring PM to practice next month.  I wouldn't do it.

[csmopar]

6 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Fine.   There aren't many who would cast a big shadow, so nobody cares about them.

 

I doubt GB would want Farve hanging around TC a few years after he left, considering what they drafted Rodgers to be (notwithstanding the fact that Farve seems like a perpetual grudge holder).   

 

The reason PM is in Denver's TC and not here seems obvious to me, but I guess I'm in my own world.

learning how to be a team exec from Elway? 

[jvan1973]

12 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Fine.   There aren't many who would cast a big shadow, so nobody cares about them.

 

I doubt GB would want Farve hanging around TC a few years after he left, considering what they drafted Rodgers to be (notwithstanding the fact that Farve seems like a perpetual grudge holder).   

 

The reason PM is in Denver's TC and not here seems obvious to me, but I guess I'm in my own world.

 

But Irsay might bring PM to practice next month.  I wouldn't do it.

Peyton went to Raiders camp as well.   Not a big deal

[DougDew]

1 minute ago, csmopar said:

learning how to be a team exec from Elway? 

Sure.  PM considers himself  a Bronco more than he does a Colt, at the present time, doesn't he?   

 

And if PM learns to be an exec from Elway, whatever role he has with the Broncos now wouldn't prevent him from taking over the Colts some day.

 

10 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

 Not a big deal

The best thought of the thread.  Geez.

[Gramz]

10 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Sure.  PM considers himself  a Bronco more than he does a Colt, at the present time, doesn't he?   

 

 

I believe he "considers himself" a retired, future NFL HOF recipient, with endless possibilities.  

[csmopar]

13 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Sure.  PM considers himself  a Bronco more than he does a Colt, at the present time, doesn't he?   

 

And if PM learns to be an exec from Elway, whatever role he has with the Broncos now wouldn't prevent him from taking over the Colts some day.

 

The best thought of the thread.  Geez.

I can't speak for Peyton so I don't know which he considers himself. 

 

That said, we might be falling down the rabbit hole a bit much.

[DougDew]

2 minutes ago, csmopar said:

I can't speak for Peyton so I don't know which he considers himself. 

 

That said, we might be falling down the rabbit hole a bit much.

I don't either, for sure.  Its probably the Broncos until enough time passes.

 

Other than the ceremony his first game back, and maybe the statue dedication recognizing his time here as a player, has PM done anything affiliated with the Colts organization during the active season since he left?

[csmopar]

Just now, DougDew said:

I don't either, for sure.  Its probably the Broncos until enough time passes.

 

Other than the ceremony his first game back, and maybe the statue dedication recognizing his time here as a player, has PM done anything affiliated with the Colts organization during the active season since he left?

hes been back a couple times for some various charity stuff. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

I seriously doubt he considers himself more of a Bronco than he does a Colt. Even in his retirement speech, Peyton said he would always be a Colt. He also has a statue here which he will never have in Denver. So I am sure his heart is here in Indy anyway, he just happens to live in Colorado so it's convenient for him to attend a teams Camp that he finished his career with and won a SB with. I don't think it's a big deal, if he chose to visit our Camp I don't see why it would be a big deal either? He was loved here and is well respected so IMO I don't think he would be a distraction. Some people think he has a grudge against Irsay because Irsay let him go back in 2011. I think that is nonsense but that is my opinion.

[Rackeen305]

23 hours ago, lollygagger8 said:

Simon > Basham 

So far, You are absolutely correct. All things considered, Simon has been in the league much longer than Basham. It would be great for Basham to move to the next level this year as a premiere pass rusher now that he's back to his natural position of DE. 

[Rackeen305]

Just a random thought? Whatever happen to Arthur Jones? hmmmm.

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, Rackeen305 said:

Just a random thought? Whatever happen to Arthur Jones? hmmmm.

Retired this offseason.

[NewColtsFan]

3 hours ago, DougDew said:

A nondramatic brain. 

 

Ok smart aleck, then you speculate as to why he's at Denver and not here.

 

Because he's an unprofessional putz who hates Irsay for cutting him?...what's the term....dissed him?  Because he, like many in your world, hold perpetual grudges because they still haven't evolved beyond the tribal mindset?

 

He's a Bronco.  He retired a Bronco.  We have Luck and a new GM which generates excitement.  Denver has nobody.  Its obvious.  Either he doesn't want to be here (at this time), or the Colts want to move on.

 

If Manning were here, hanging around, would that invite a comparison between Luck and Manning?  Would Luck be in his shadow, even for a day?  

 

Nobody cares that Case Keenum is in PMs shadow because he was simply hired to play QB, not to be the face of the franchise.  Denver has none, so they trot out Manning.

 

 

 

And you think I'M being dramatic?

 

Look at the nonsense you just wrote.     Drama is your middle name.

 

Goodness gracious.......

 

[Rackeen305]

3 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Retired this offseason.

Good call. Thanks.

[Shive]

23 hours ago, csmopar said:

learning how to be a team exec from Elway? 

Not necessarily the guy I would be learning from... He seemed like some Front Office guru initially, but I think he just managed to bring in the right mix of veterans to compliment the talent that was already on the roster when they were so good. As soon as PM retired and they lost a few key players to FA, he hasn't been able to restock the talent, ESPECIALLY at QB.