Who starts next to Hankins in the 4-3 ?

[SolidGold]

2 minutes ago, J@son said:

 

oh well hell, screw Suh, let's get Aaron Donald.  Might as well go ahead and get Bobby Wagner from Seattle.  I'm thinking we grab Von Miller to solve the pass rush.  We need some help at WR so I'm thinking Deandre Hopkins.  

 

Wow I didn't realize how easy it was to construct an all-pro team just by speaking possibilities into existence.  Next 10 SBs are ours baby!

 

[Matabix]

Btw in case anybody wants to know, Anderson's 3 cone and 40 yd shuttle was alot better than Chubbs. That tells me Anderson gets off the ball better.

[Scott Pennock]

13 hours ago, Matabix said:

Too tall?

That's there leverage so the OTs can't get there hands on them. Try another arguement. Plus look at Anderson's stats at Stanford 10+ sacks his last 2 years. He's been playing out of position and doing a good job.

When they kick inside to the UT position they are going against a guard now, not a tackle of the same height and length. I like Anderson, just don't think he's a good fit compared to others on the roster.

 

So we'll call it a draw and see how it plays out...

[Scott Pennock]

14 hours ago, J@son said:

 

You do realize that both hunt and Anderson have played both DT spots in 4 man fronts when the colts went into sub packages, right? And they both did rather well. Anderson is far more of a 1 gap penetrator... Thats why the colts switched to more of a 1 gap 34 system after drafting Anderson and parry. And yes there are some differences between 1 gapping as a 34 end and 1 gapping as a 43 UT... But they're close enough that I personally have no doubt Anderson could be an effective UT... Better than anyone we had under Dungy or Caldwell with the one possible exception of macfarland. 

 

I moamstly agree about hunt. He could probably be a good backup interior pass rusher for sub packages but I'd rather find someone with more versatility and let hunt go. 

I just personally think that there are better options than Anderson and Hunt on the roster right now for those positions.

 

We'll call it a draw for now and see how it play's out!

[IndyScribe]

Woods? Or maybe Stewart if he really breaks out (before FA, obviously)

[Jason_]

2 hours ago, Scott Pennock said:

I just personally think that there are better options than Anderson and Hunt on the roster right now for those positions.

 

We'll call it a draw for now and see how it play's out!

 

I disagree in regards to Anderson. I think he might prove to be the best UT of our group. Agree on hunt though

[Scott Pennock]

41 minutes ago, J@son said:

 

I disagree in regards to Anderson. I think he might prove to be the best UT of our group. Agree on hunt though

Then as I said.....we call it a draw and let it play itself out. 

[1959Colts]

22 hours ago, Scott Pennock said:

I think our interior will be Hankins, Stewart, Johnson and Ridgeway as our 4 DT/UT's.....

 

Anderson and Hunt don't fit and they may find a way to trade Woods and the other two to a 3-4 team....

I think Anderson and Hunt fit right in at DE

 

[Scott Pennock]

Here is Henry Anderson's draft profile for further review (which seems pretty accurate): http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/henry-anderson?id=2552272

 

 

Just for the record AGAIN.....I like him as a player but I don't think he's a fit as a 4-3 end or UT......

[Jason_]

34 minutes ago, Scott Pennock said:

Then as I said.....we call it a draw and let it play itself out. 

 

oh I agree...my last post was a bit unclear..wasn't trying to further the debate, just add a final bit of clarification on my thoughts.  But yes, unless he gets cut or traded we'll see next year where he makes is mark in the new defense...if anywhere.

[Rally5]

On 3/7/2018 at 6:22 AM, Peterk2011 said:

Well, according to how Ballard and Eberflus have spoken about the front so far ("we have some good elements", "it will be a multiple front", "it will be agressive", etc.) it might be an indication that they might implement something similar what Seattle did a few years ago (and what the Jaguars did last year) with their unbalanced front and LEO. Actually, the Colts already have the personnel in house for that.

 

It's a 4-3 under, with some 3-4 elements (like Seattle's famous "elephant set") with three big linemen, with a big (3-4 type) end at the strong side and a "LEO" (a smaller, "tweener") guy at the weak side. This formation overloads the strong side and "underloads" the weak side against the run. The idea is, that the 2 big guys on the strong side will stop the run (with the help of the SLB), so the other 2 linebackers (plus the safety) can focus on stopping the run on the weak side. They will have one gap responsibilities, assigned pre-snap, so they won't need to wait to decide which gap to hold/attack, they can attack their gaps immedietally.

 

Such a front could look something like this in Indy: Hankins (4? tech, 2 gaps) as "elephant" DE, Woods (0 tech, 2 gaps) as NT/DT, Ridgeway/Anderson (3 tech, 1 gap) as DT, and Sheard as LEO. Simon could play at SLB, behind / alongside with Hankins, prodiving the pass rush.The other 2 linebackers and Geathers all guard the weak side, so they help Anderson & Sheard to hold the run, who are smaller (so need help in that), but have pass rushing abilities so they both can go after the quarterback on passing downs, rushing not only from the edge but from the inside too. (Seattle did a similar thing with Red Bryant being the elephant DE, replaced by Irvin/Avril in passing downs. Hankins could play somilar role as Red Bryant did on early downs and move inside in passing downs.)

 

Of course it's a "multiple front", so it varies. All in all, I don't expect Hankins to play only as "classic" 4-3 DT, I expect him (and others) to play "all over" depending on downs and distances.

Spot on!

[Indy1996]

40 minutes ago, Scott Pennock said:

Here is Henry Anderson's draft profile for further review (which seems pretty accurate): http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/henry-anderson?id=2552272

 

 

Just for the record AGAIN.....I like him as a player but I don't think he's a fit as a 4-3 end or UT......

All he had better then Chubb is 3 cone and 20 yard shuffle chubb runs faster and jumps higher and is more athletic 

[TheRustonRifle#7]

It depends on the fronts they are running?  In 1st and 2nd, I could see Woods (NT) and Hankins (UT)....on 3rd and obvious passing downs...I could see Hankins moving to (NT), and my hope is Ridgeway finds his way and could be used in these sets.

 

 

[colts89]

I really like Anderson. I don't know how he is going to project in the 43, but I'm pretty sure at Stanford he played in a variety of positions on the D-Line. If he stays healthy, I like to see a combination of Anderson and Hankins on the line IMO

[Grind Hard]

SUH me!!!

[Dark Superman]

Poe and Hank together would be interesting.

[a06cc]

19 minutes ago, King! said:

Poe and Hank together would be interesting.

Something concerns me about his back.

30 minutes ago, Grind Hard said:

SUH me!!!

Reports are him not getting along with other players. Don’t know if they’ll sign him.

 

Finally the two of these guys have issues. If Ballard brings one of them in I hope things work out. 

[Jackie Daytona]

Who starts next to Hank?  a DE and a DT