2017-2018 Indiana Pacers and Everything NBA Thread

[oldunclemark 2,434]

2 minutes ago, Luck is Good said:

That’s why Sabonis plays PF. Because that’s what he is

LIG..I don't  think so..I think he's a '5'..and Myles is a big '4' on offense and '5' on defense

[oldunclemark 2,434]

But I dont know how Sabonis doenst play 30 minutes a night the way he;s going now and Myles also has to play 30 minutes a night

[ar7 275]

I haven't been able to watch a lot of the Pacers so far but it has been fun to watch from what I have seen. I wasn't upset like some about trading PG for Victor and Sabonis but I still didn't imagine both to play this well. Hopefully they can keep it up.

[RockThatBlue 1,345]

1 minute ago, ar7 said:

I haven't been able to watch a lot of the Pacers so far but it has been fun to watch from what I have see. I wasn't upset like some about trading PG for Victor and Sabonis but I still didn't imagine both to play this well. Hopefully they can keep it up.

I wasn't expecting it either. I figured Oladipo would be better than Ellis, but not this much better.

[Luck is Good 1,071]

Just now, ar7 said:

I haven't been able to watch a lot of the Pacers so far but it has been fun to watch from what I have see. I wasn't upset like some about trading PG for Victor and Sabonis but I still didn't imagine both to play this well. Hopefully they can keep it up.

The reason I hated the trade was because the Pacers didn’t get a first round pick as well. But I would be lying if I said I loved the acquisitions in the first place. They have completely blown my expectations out of the water

[oldunclemark 2,434]

44 minutes ago, RockThatBlue said:

I wasn't expecting it either. I figured Oladipo would be better than Ellis, but not this much better.

I thought Oladipo would blossom here..I really did.

But I am shocked at Sabonis....I thought he had potential...

He's averaging a double double and shooting almost 70% from the floor. Nobody does that.

 

..and he's been in foul trouble in more than one game...we stole him

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[RockThatBlue 1,345]

Anyone know how Teague is playing in Minnesota, compared to Collision?

[crazycolt1 7,556]

1 hour ago, Luck is Good said:

The reason I hated the trade was because the Pacers didn’t get a first round pick as well. But I would be lying if I said I loved the acquisitions in the first place. They have completely blown my expectations out of the water

I was neutral on the trade but was happy to see George out of here. He was not a leader and didn't make the players around him better like leaders do.

[RockThatBlue 1,345]

Early in the year but the Pacers look better than the Cavs do.

[Jules 1,861]

Congrats on the big win today guys.

 

Not even going to get into the Cavs tonight. 

[akcolt 447]

10 hours ago, oldunclemark said:

I thought Oladipo would blossom here..I really did.

But I am shocked at Sabonis....I thought he had potential...

He's averaging a double double and shooting almost 70% from the floor. Nobody does that.

 

..and he's been in foul trouble in more than one game...we stole him

This is what I thought too I think you and I might have been the most optimistic about the trade. Vic is comfortable and the year with OKC helped. He saw the work a guy like Westbrook puts in. They have similar skills Vic is like a Westy lite. He went from college to savior of the Magic. That year at OKC was the first time he wasn't expected to be the man. I really think that helped him.   

 

I knew Sabonis was going to surprise a lot of people. OKC made him a stretch his game is around the paint. He can hit the 3 pretty sure he drop one vs the Spurs but not his strength. He was a monster at Gonzaga. I knew he'd play well being back around the paint and his game is perfect for the pick and roll. Who could've expected him to play this well this quickly?  The trade is looking pretty good. We did get lottery picks back a #2  and a #11. 

 

I am ready for Myles to return and see how Nate handles the line up. You hate to see one of your best players miss time but there's a silver lining. We got a good look at Sabonis and let's not forget TJ. He's been a pleasant surprise after his summer league and preseason play. I wasn't sure we'd get much from him.

 

When I saw @Minn @OKC and SA on the schedule I'm not going to lie I was trying to figure how we could get one and avoid a big hole before Myles returned. 2-1 is great and we hung around with OKC. We were playing the second of a back and back. I really like this team. We get Myles back Bog's shots starting to fall. We just need Lance to pick it up. That's the reason I think we see Sabonis back with the second unit. 

[akcolt 447]

12 hours ago, RockThatBlue said:

PG would've probably missed that shot. 

It's almost a guarantee PG would've missed he had 15 go ahead shots in the final 20 seconds in his career here and missed all 15. 

[Chrisaaron1023 1,931]

aye! Ya'll took down the Spurs nice!

[Luck is Good 1,071]

11 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

I was neutral on the trade but was happy to see George out of here. He was not a leader and didn't make the players around him better like leaders do.

True and Victor seems like a leader. He already loves this state so I’m completely onboard with him

[crazycolt1 7,556]

2 hours ago, akcolt said:

This is what I thought too I think you and I might have been the most optimistic about the trade. Vic is comfortable and the year with OKC helped. He saw the work a guy like Westbrook puts in. They have similar skills Vic is like a Westy lite. He went from college to savior of the Magic. That year at OKC was the first time he wasn't expected to be the man. I really think that helped him.   

 

I knew Sabonis was going to surprise a lot of people. OKC made him a stretch his game is around the paint. He can hit the 3 pretty sure he drop one vs the Spurs but not his strength. He was a monster at Gonzaga. I knew he'd play well being back around the paint and his game is perfect for the pick and roll. Who could've expected him to play this well this quickly?  The trade is looking pretty good. We did get lottery picks back a #2  and a #11. 

 

I am ready for Myles to return and see how Nate handles the line up. You hate to see one of your best players miss time but there's a silver lining. We got a good look at Sabonis and let's not forget TJ. He's been a pleasant surprise after his summer league and preseason play. I wasn't sure we'd get much from him.

 

When I saw @Minn @OKC and SA on the schedule I'm not going to lie I was trying to figure how we could get one and avoid a big hole before Myles returned. 2-1 is great and we hung around with OKC. We were playing the second of a back and back. I really like this team. We get Myles back Bog's shots starting to fall. We just need Lance to pick it up. That's the reason I think we see Sabonis back with the second unit. 

All good points but we also can't overlook Robinson returning. He will bring another dimension to this team.

[akcolt 447]

2 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

All good points but we also can't overlook Robinson returning. He will bring another dimension to this team.

I will be glad to get GR3 back. It was really unfortunate we lost him for so long. We are looking at the All -Star break before he returns. That's the only problem I had with the roster. I felt like we should find a wing that could contribute more than Wilkins. He's 37 never been a good 3pt shooter. I just don't see what he brings.

 

I'd like to see Joe Young get some run. He would fit right in with this up tempo style. If we let him be what he is instead trying to turn him into a PG. The kid is a scorer and would thrive in an up and down game. We might get a look at some point. 

[crazycolt1 7,556]

2 hours ago, akcolt said:

I will be glad to get GR3 back. It was really unfortunate we lost him for so long. We are looking at the All -Star break before he returns. That's the only problem I had with the roster. I felt like we should find a wing that could contribute more than Wilkins. He's 37 never been a good 3pt shooter. I just don't see what he brings.

 

I'd like to see Joe Young get some run. He would fit right in with this up tempo style. If we let him be what he is instead trying to turn him into a PG. The kid is a scorer and would thrive in an up and down game. We might get a look at some point. 

I am pretty sure we will. There is bound to be an injury or a time when the coaches will want to see more of him and what he can do.

[Luck is Good 1,071]

5 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

All good points but we also can't overlook Robinson returning. He will bring another dimension to this team.

This can’t be overstated

[BullsColtsFan1 191]

19 hours ago, RockThatBlue said:

Anyone know how Teague is playing in Minnesota, compared to Collision?

Collison is outplaying him so far.  14PPG 8APG compared to 12PPG 7APG. 

[RockThatBlue 1,345]

8 hours ago, Chrisaaron1023 said:

aye! Ya'll took down the Spurs nice!

It certainly helped that Leonard didn't play, but a win against the Spurs is always big. 

[RockThatBlue 1,345]

38 minutes ago, BullsColtsFan1 said:

Collison is outplaying him so far.  14PPG 8APG compared to 12PPG 7APG. 

Nice!

[Luck is Good 1,071]

1 minute ago, RockThatBlue said:

It certainly helped that Leonard didn't play, but a win against the Spurs is always big. 

Yep. They win with their backups a majority of the time anyway

[RockThatBlue 1,345]

10 minutes ago, Luck is Good said:

Yep. They win with their backups a majority of the time anyway

Yup, I've said it before but they are the patriots of the NBA. Without the cheating of course. Lol

[2006Coltsbestever 22,312]

Yeah eventhough Leonard didn't play, still a great win. We didn't have Turner.

[Luck is Good 1,071]

53 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Yeah eventhough Leonard didn't play, still a great win. We didn't have Turner.

While I understand your logic, Kawhi is a way bigger loss than Myles

[2006Coltsbestever 22,312]

Just now, Luck is Good said:

While I understand your logic, Kawhi is a way bigger loss than Myles

Oh no doubt but the Spurs are still a good team without Leonard. We are still unproven with this unit and Turner is our best player.

[Luck is Good 1,071]

24 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Oh no doubt but the Spurs are still a good team without Leonard. We are still unproven with this unit and Turner is our best player.

Might have to rethink that best player sentence. VO is taking over the reigns of that title

[Chrisaaron1023 1,931]

1 hour ago, RockThatBlue said:

Yup, I've said it before but they are the patriots of the NBA. Without the cheating of course. Lol

lol yupp and I hate them too hahaha

[Jules 1,861]

Holy crap, the Celtics have been on FIRE so far in this game vs. the Spurs. 4th quarter so lets see if they can hold on but they are crazy.

 

And Kyrie's defense is improving with the Celtics.

 

And in the meantime on the Cavs forums, they spend half their time watching and analyzing Kyrie on the Celtics. 

 

 

[Jules 1,861]

Not to take away the Pacers highlights from beating the Spurs, but the Celtics tonight just pummeled the stuffing out of them.

 

I should never had doubted the Celtics when Hayward got hurt, just imagine how good they could be with him.

 

But Brad Stevens always finds a way. He is that good. He is making Kyrie a better player already this early in the year and Cavs fans have been noticing how much more engaged Kyrie seems on both ends.

 

I love me some Brad Stevens. 

[2006Coltsbestever 22,312]

2 minutes ago, Jules said:

Not to take away the Pacers highlights from beating the Spurs, but the Celtics tonight just pummeled the stuffing out of them.

 

I should never had doubted the Celtics when Hayward got hurt, just imagine how good they could be with him.

 

But Brad Stevens always finds a way. He is that good. He is making Kyrie a better player already this early in the year and Cavs fans have been noticing how much more engaged Kyrie seems on both ends.

 

I love me some Brad Stevens. 

You scared me for a minute, I thought you meant C's beat Indy . I didn't think Indy played tonight. C's beat Spurs, I just now looked it up.

[Jules 1,861]

6 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

You scared me for a minute, I thought you meant C's beat Indy . I didn't think Indy played tonight. C's beat Spurs, I just now looked it up.

 

 

 

No the Spurs. Yeah the Spurs have been through a rough patch lately now.

 

I know the Celtics will lose again but I am starting to wonder now if they are better defensively without Isaiah? Kyrie was always ragged about his defense and he does get lazy there at times, but he seems to be developing better then IT did as an all around player under Stevens early on.

 

IT could score like a crazy person don't get me wrong, but defensively he was BAD. And if he returns to the Cavs, he won't help them there on defense either.

 

But I hate to ever rag on IT since he is so darn short and he always tried so hard.

[Jules 1,861]

Do you think the Pacers defense is better this year? 

 

I used to think Paul George could get lazy at times.

[oldunclemark 2,434]

Just now, Jules said:

Do you think the Pacers defense is better this year? 

 

I used to think Paul George could get lazy at times.

No..but the offense is much better

[oldunclemark 2,434]

I;m seeing where Sabonis is sick...we may see Big Al and the debut of our 2nd round draft choice Tuesday night

[2006Coltsbestever 22,312]

3 minutes ago, Jules said:

Do you think the Pacers defense is better this year? 

 

I used to think Paul George could get lazy at times.

PG was actually a Good Defensive player but he did take nights off. What is a matter with Cleveland? I know it's early and LeBron generally coasts during the Regular Season but they don't look good so far.

[Jules 1,861]

7 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

PG was actually a Good Defensive player but he did take nights off. What is a matter with Cleveland? I know it's early and LeBron generally coasts during the Regular Season but they don't look good so far.

 

Not sure. On the Cavs forums they are wondering if it works out like usual later on but they think the same old lazy style of play and the bad coaching and relying just on Lebron is showing up again.

 

I am sure they win again soon but losing to the Knicks is just like..........bad. Very very bad.

 

 

I saw this one post from a Cavs fan though:

 

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Always knew the biggest problem with Kyrie was the coaching here.

He's never in his career had anyone close to the coach as Stevens. I don't think Stevens is going to re-invent him.

He's never going to be a true point guard, and will never be a great defender. But I think he can work out some of the kinks in Kyrie though.

I think we can get dispel this notion he can't be on a winning team without LB.

Always thought the record when LB sits was misleading. One, the entire team is built to play off him. Two, Ty Lue is that bad of coach, and coaches his entire team to play off LeBron, because he himself doesn't know another way.

Or if he does, he's just has failed to get it across.

In Boston, none of that. Stevens has an actual system that's not surrounded by one guy.

 

[2006Coltsbestever 22,312]

3 minutes ago, Jules said:

 

Not sure. On the Cavs forums they are wondering if it works out like usual later on but they think the same old lazy style of play and the bad coaching and relying just on Lebron is showing up again.

 

I am sure they win again soon but losing to the Knicks is just like..........bad. Very very bad.

 

 

I saw this one post from a Cavs fan though:

 

 

Yeah Brad is awesome! I CONCUR

[Jules 1,861]

2 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Yeah Brad is awesome! I CONCUR

 

Kyrie is playing defense now.

 

http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2017/10/kyrie_irvings_defense_key_for.html

 

 

[2006Coltsbestever 22,312]

1 minute ago, Jules said:

 

Kyrie is playing defense now.

 

http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2017/10/kyrie_irvings_defense_key_for.html

 

 

Losing Hayward stinks, if they had him I think they win the East. I still cant bet against LeBron as of now