Jay Kirk Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 According to this source .See anyone interesting ? http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2015/05/15/15-nfl-veterans-who-will-be-cut-during-2015-training-camp/?utm_campaign=RantSportsFB&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral#slide_14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshinator Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Obviously Ballard for us is the first thought and he will be fighting to stay on the roster. The two names that stuck out to me are EJ Manuel and Brandon Carr. If Manuel got cut, I wouldn't mind signing him to a cheap contract and making him our 3 with a chance to be the backup. It could have multiple effects. We could have a half-decent backup for Luck when Hasselback retires, or if Luck goes down, EJ could get some inflated trade value for us if he fills in for Luck and our receivers make him look good. I think Brandon Carr is the other one. He's still a decent corner and even though he wouldn't be someone we'd sign, it's interesting the Cowboys may cut him with Claiborne as bad as he is (yes I know the drafted Byron Jones in the 1st). Hakeem and donald are former notables, no else surprises me. I think this was written really poorly as a side note. I agree with the info, but the layout was ridiculous having to double click on a slide to get the info on a player. Really bad presentation on a site I've never been on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Kirk Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 Obviously Ballard for us is the first thought and he will be fighting to stay on the roster. The two names that stuck out to me are EJ Manuel and Brandon Carr. If Manuel got cut, I wouldn't mind signing him to a cheap contract and making him our 3 with a chance to be the backup. It could have multiple effects. We could have a half-decent backup for Luck when Hasselback retires, or if Luck goes down, EJ could get some inflated trade value for us if he fills in for Luck and our receivers make him look good. I think Brandon Carr is the other one. He's still a decent corner and even though he wouldn't be someone we'd sign, it's interesting the Cowboys may cut him with Claiborne as bad as he is (yes I know the drafted Byron Jones in the 1st). Hakeem and donald are former notables, no else surprises me. I think this was written really poorly as a side note. I agree with the info, but the layout was ridiculous having to double click on a slide to get the info on a player. Really bad presentation on a site I've never been on.Im with you the 2 you mentioned are 2 that I wouldn't mind looking at. Ballard if healthy will make this team if not hes probably gone JMO . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Hmm, Hakeem Nicks and Donald Brown look interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Kirk Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 Hmm, Hakeem Nicks and Donald Brown look interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrentMc11 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 My computer is slow, so I cannot comment. I think the one' above are interesting...any others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshinator Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Let me ask you guys this, what about an even swap of hasselback for manuel? Grigson could call the Bills and see if they are considering cutting him, if they are, we give them Hasselback so they can make a playoff run this year and draft a franchise qb next year. In return, we get a solid backup qb for Luck's career and Manuel's. What would you do? It would be a decent idea IMO, assuming this is accurate and he's a cut candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Kirk Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 My computer is slow, so I cannot comment. I think the one' above are interesting...any others? Chris Chester OG Redskins , Josh Robinson CB Vikings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Kirk Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 Let me ask you guys this, what about an even swap of hasselback for manuel? Grigson could call the Bills and see if they are considering cutting him, if they are, we give them Hasselback so they can make a playoff run this year and draft a franchise qb next year. In return, we get a solid backup qb for Luck's career and Manuel's. What would you do? It would be a decent idea IMO, assuming this is accurate and he's a cut candidate.Never lol , Hasselback is to good and smart to part ways with. IMO if Luck goes down he gives you a chance to win and wont beat ourself from his mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Kirk Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 IMO Manuel would learn a ton from Has. , and I like Manuels physical ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valpo2004 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Shonn Greene might not set the world on fire but he averaged more YPC then Sankey did last year. I don't think it would be a good idea for them to release him just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Kirk Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 Shonn Greene might not set the world on fire but he averaged more YPC then Sankey did last year. I don't think it would be a good idea for them to release him just yet.Oh I agree this is a persons opinion from ESPN . We know these are speculation , but I can see some of these along with other surprises . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLfan Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Chris Chester OG Redskins , Josh Robinson CB Vikings.I would rather we (Vikings) cut Captain Munnerlyn than Robinson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valpo2004 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Let me ask you guys this, what about an even swap of hasselback for manuel? Grigson could call the Bills and see if they are considering cutting him, if they are, we give them Hasselback so they can make a playoff run this year and draft a franchise qb next year. In return, we get a solid backup qb for Luck's career and Manuel's. What would you do? It would be a decent idea IMO, assuming this is accurate and he's a cut candidate. No no no no no. Manuel has a fully guaranteed contract. I'd rather draft a QB to develop as a backup or sign an actual decent backup. I'd rather have Mike Glennon if we could get ahold of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshinator Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Never lol , Hasselback is to good and smart to part ways with. IMO if Luck goes down he gives you a chance to win and wont beat ourself from his mistakes. IMO Manuel would learn a ton from Has. , and I like Manuels physical ability.Fair enough, it's fun to throw out ideas though. It would be a bit of a downgrade short term, but we'd have a backup with some ability and experience along with youth once Hasselback left. It's a unlikely to happen scenario, in a perfect world we'd get both and Manuel would take over as the backup next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshinator Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 No no no no no. Manuel has a fully guaranteed contract. I'd rather draft a QB to develop as a backup or sign an actual decent backup. I'd rather have Mike Glennon if we could get ahold of him. You don't think Manuel is a decent backup? I thought I was low on him thinking he was the worst starter in the league lol. I agree Glennon would be solid, but I don't see him being cut even with Winston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I'll take 1 Fred Jackson please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollygagger8 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Yeesh.....that's a lot of former Colts on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Kirk Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 Yeesh.....that's a lot of former Colts on there. Thought the same lolly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffensivelyPC Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I don't see the Bills cutting Manuel at all. He's still got, I think, 2 years left on his deal. He's at least good enough to be a backup. If they were to cut him, they'd have to pay out his entire salary anyway. So really, the only way they would cut him is if he really is not better than the 53rd person on the team and I don't think anyone can say that would be the case. They might trade him, but that's completely different than cutting him. In fact, I would say that most the guys on that list who are still on their rookie deals and drafted in the top two or three rounds won't be cut for that same reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Kirk Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 I don't see the Bills cutting Manuel at all. He's still got, I think, 2 years left on his deal. He's at least good enough to be a backup. If they were to cut him, they'd have to pay out his entire salary anyway. So really, the only way they would cut him is if he really is not better than the 53rd person on the team and I don't think anyone can say that would be the case. They might trade him, but that's completely different than cutting him. In fact, I would say that most the guys on that list who are still on their rookie deals and drafted in the top two or three rounds won't be cut for that same reason.I don't disagree at all , this was not my ideas at all , just wanted to know what people thought. Besides that frankly Im bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffensivelyPC Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I don't disagree at all , this was not my ideas at all , just wanted to know what people thought. Besides that frankly Im bored. Oh, I wasn't taking this as your opinion. Just my 2 cents on the article. Was still interesting to say the least. I think there were more ex-Colts players on there than any other team. At least it felt that way, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horseshoeblue22 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I think this is a "should be" list, not "will be". Pure speculation. Saying guys like TRich and Nicks will be cut, and it already decided is hard to believe. These guys have barely even had time to practice with their new teams yet.I wouldnt trade Hasselbeck for Manuel. If Manuel is cut, I wouldnt mind putting in a claim or even offering a 7th for him. But for now, Matt is our best option for emergency QB and Manuel would only be useful once Matt retires.Hasselbeck is probably the best backup in the league, at least the most accomplished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwing BBZ Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Let me ask you guys this, what about an even swap of hasselback for manuel? Grigson could call the Bills and see if they are considering cutting him, if they are, we give them Hasselback so they can make a playoff run this year and draft a franchise qb next year. In return, we get a solid backup qb for Luck's career and Manuel's. What would you do? It would be a decent idea IMO, assuming this is accurate and he's a cut candidate. ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshinator Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 !You do realize Matt Hasselback is 39 and retiring next year most likely right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynjin Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Tebow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valpo2004 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 You don't think Manuel is a decent backup? I thought I was low on him thinking he was the worst starter in the league lol. I agree Glennon would be solid, but I don't see him being cut even with Winston. Probably won't but considering they have Winston the Bucs might just take like a 4th rounder on him if they are all in on Winston being the future. Honestly I think Glennon is an underrated quarterback. Obviously he's not setting the world on fire or anything, but If you make a list of the top 32 QB's in the league I would say he's probably on there. If not then he's not far behind. Guy had a decent passer rating, completion % and a positive TD/INT ratio. Only a few backup QB's out there can claim that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsColtsFan1 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Donald Brown should come back, all though we have quite a few running backs. I don't think he was great for us but I thought he was very good and stayed healthy for the most part. I personally liked him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0lts088 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 There is no way Kendall hunter is cut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Kirk Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 I think this is a "should be" list, not "will be". Pure speculation. Saying guys like TRich and Nicks will be cut, and it already decided is hard to believe. These guys have barely even had time to practice with their new teams yet.I wouldnt trade Hasselbeck for Manuel. If Manuel is cut, I wouldnt mind putting in a claim or even offering a 7th for him. But for now, Matt is our best option for emergency QB and Manuel would only be useful once Matt retires.Hasselbeck is probably the best backup in the league, at least the most accomplished.Not to mention a very good mentor and teammate , a true pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horseshoeblue22 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Not to mention a very good mentor and teammate , a true pro.Very true. Luck himself has credited alot of his development to Matt's tutelege. Hes also been mentioned by Fleener and a few other players as a guy who they can bounce ideas off of, and they really benefit from his vast amount of experience. He also has experience in a SB, which could prove invaluable this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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