BlueCollarColts Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Our first rounder from last year, and with Mathis being gone for the first 4 games, we need you to step up! You were a dominant pass-rusher in college, and we need to see it this next season! You showed flashes towards the end of last season, lets continue it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimusprimetime Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I would not call him dominate, but he was pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share Posted May 16, 2014 I would not call him dominate, but he was pretty good.He had 13 sacks his last season in college, thats a lot for a college player. For example, thats just as productive as Clowney was in his best season in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestQBever Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 so our starters are now Werner-Jones-Chapman-redding-Walden. Well.... Werner is the only one who's decent at generating pass rush. Looks like we'll need mr president to break our earlier than we expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestQBever Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 and looking at who we play the first 4 weeks, without mathis we'll probably go 2-2. possibly 3-1. With mathis I would have guaranteed 3-1 with a possible 4-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattceinicram Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Yeah, it will have an effect on our defense, but it won't be a detrimental loss. It's only 4 games and we still have pass rushers. I still see us going 3-1 to start the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestQBever Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 just look at the broncos last year, they lost von miller for 6 games and played like he was never there. We should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Yeah, it will have an effect on our defense, but it won't be a detrimental loss. It's only 4 games and we still have pass rushers. I still see us going 3-1 to start the season.What pass rushers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B~Town Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Next man up time to shine BW . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucklez Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 just look at the broncos last year, they lost von miller for 6 games and played like he was never there. We should be fine.The broncos were better set on D to deal with the loss of Miller than we are without Mathis... This is a huge blow to our pass rush and thus defense..... 18 is gonna be pretty happy hearing this... He will have all day to tear us apart... not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLTS449 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Yeah, Werner has to step up. I'm expecting him to be a much improved player this year anyway. I'm excited to see what Newsome can do too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestQBever Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 The broncos were better set on D to deal with the loss of Miller than we are without Mathis... This is a huge blow to our pass rush and thus defense..... 18 is gonna be pretty happy hearing this... He will have all day to tear us apart... not good.true. We need one of our guys to break out this year starting week 1. Hopefully it's werner, possibly newsome or maybe even walden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ja'Crispy Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 so our starters are now Werner-Jones-Chapman-redding-Walden. Well.... Werner is the only one who's decent at generating pass rush. Looks like we'll need mr president to break our earlier than we expected.Old Hickory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can'tStandYa Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Much last last year when Landry went down and Howell came in made a name for himself, now he's a starter. I see the same situation traspiring with one of our linebackers.... Probably Werner. Looking back at last years draft I have to think that Grigson drafted Werner to take over for Walden in year 3 of his deal (next year). I'm no hater of Walden either. I think he has done a fine job. But, at the same time, we need to get younger on defense. And Waldens money could be put to The Andrew Luck Fund. This actually gives Werner ample time to shine/prove himself. This could be a blessing in disguise. Here's hoping Werner comes out of his shell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigQandTheManiac Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 could we be sleeping on adongo??? anyone thinks he could be ready??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share Posted May 16, 2014 could we be sleeping on adongo??? anyone thinks he could be ready???I would be shocked if he was ready after one year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 I would be shocked if he was ready after one year.I'd be surprised if he wasn't ready.....He is a pass rusher...see QB...attack QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 I'd be surprised if he wasn't ready.....He is a pass rusher...see QB...attack QB Come on. If it was that easy, there would be no shortage of quality pass rushers. And yet, there are......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runthepost Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 just look at the broncos last year, they lost von miller for 6 games and played like he was never there. We should be fine.Denver still had shaun philips derrick wolfe and others.. all we have are no names players pass rushing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horse Shoe Heaven Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 EVERYONE STEP UP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJACKCOLT Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Much last last year when Landry went down and Howell came in made a name for himself, now he's a starter. I see the same situation traspiring with one of our linebackers.... Probably Werner. Looking back at last years draft I have to think that Grigson drafted Werner to take over for Walden in year 3 of his deal (next year). I'm no hater of Walden either. I think he has done a fine job. But, at the same time, we need to get younger on defense. And Waldens money could be put to The Andrew Luck Fund. This actually gives Werner ample time to shine/prove himself. This could be a blessing in disguise. Here's hoping Werner comes out of his shell.I agree 100%, This will give someone else a chance to shine and whoever it is, Werner, Adongo, Newsome or Walden, they will get some valuable experience and will make our team better in the long run. It will be very tough without Mathis, but someone will just have to step up and hopefully a star will be born. "GO COLTS" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Come on. If it was that easy, there would be no shortage of quality pass rushers. And yet, there are.........it would be much harder if he was asked to drop back, But if he has a quick first step and can read run or pass(That would be the kicker provided he has a quick first step, reading run or pass) then getting after the QB(Im not asking for him to be Robert Mathis by any stretch of the imagination of course) should not be an insermountable task....were talking rotational pass rusher not every down OLB here, Just some pressures when he gets on the field enough so the likes of Chad Henne cant sit back in the pocket, read a novel, go through his reads several times if he so chooses, recite the alphabet forward and backwards all before he passes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 it would be much harder if he was asked to drop back, But if he has a quick first step and can read run or pass(That would be the kicker provided he has a quick first step, reading run or pass) then getting after the QB(Im not asking for him to be Robert Mathis by any stretch of the imagination of course) should not be an insermountable task....were talking rotational pass rusher not every down OLB here, Just some pressures when he gets on the field enough so the likes of Chad Henne cant sit back in the pocket, read a novel, go through his reads several times if he so chooses, recite the alphabet forward and backwards all before he passes Hey.... I get it, and I'm with you! I hope at the end of the season, Werner has at least 8 sacks and we can all look back on this as almost a blessing in disguise... that Werner took his opportunity and made the most of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennymoore24 Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Maybe the Donger will get it done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share Posted May 17, 2014 I'd be surprised if he wasn't ready.....He is a pass rusher...see QB...attack QBWell its a lot more complicated than that , he's an athletic freak, but he needs to develop good pass rushing moves to shed a blocker, and I don't think he has that ability yet, but hey, i'll gladly be proven wrong here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share Posted May 17, 2014 Changing my avatar to Bjoern Werner as a show of confidence in him! any chance they start Werner opposite Mathis when he comes back, or does he purely play the rush OLB spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freenyfan102 Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 if i was the QB i would not be scared anymore Walden is a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share Posted May 17, 2014 if i was the QB i would not be scared anymore Walden is a jokeWalden actually wasn't terrible, I mean, he wasn't great by any means, but he was solid. We could do far worse than Walden. Werner did look a lot better at the end of the season last year, hopefully we see that continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 and looking at who we play the first 4 weeks, without mathis we'll probably go 2-2. possibly 3-1. With mathis I would have guaranteed 3-1 with a possible 4-0.Nice to know you have faith in your team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share Posted May 17, 2014 Nice to know you have faith in your teamCan't agree with this more, we have potential to be the best offense in the league, I don't give a % who we play, we can win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestQBever Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Nice to know you have faith in your team Nice to know you have faith in your teamits called being a realist. I cheer for this team no matter who we play against and no matter how much we're losing by I still have hope. But in the end, you can't expect us to go 16-0. We're gonna lose some games here and there and I expect 1 possibly 2 of them to be in the 1st 4 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestQBever Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Can't agree with this more, we have potential to be the best offense in the league, I don't give a % who we play, we can win. I agree that we have the potential right now to be the best. It all lies on how our pass rush fares. If we can't generate pass rush the 1st 4 weeks then 3-1 is all you can expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcolt Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 We will beat Denver by getting pressure up the middle that is where Manning can't take it. I think Denver is going to regret letting Moreno go when it comes to picking up the blitz should be able to confuse Ball who is probably good for a fumble too. We will be able to score on them. The Super Bowl loser hasn't covered the spread for 12/13 years so the game should be close and have only managed to win outright 3x. I like our chances in this game. I will be taking he points and the money line. Chip Kelly's offense is built around the run Shady is the head of that snake. It should be a good test to see where our run D is at. I think we will like it. The home opener. I also think Foles and Chip's offense could take a step back this year with a full year of tape on both. We have extra days to prepare. Adam puts it away late from 30 yards out. At Jags these fools always gives us a good game but we just have to much fire power Home Titans at home I expect a win no late winner from Adam necessary here Isn't Luck undefeated vs Tennessee? That my friend is how we are 4-0 when Mathis returns. We only face one team that has a QB in Luck's class and he is getting up there in age and man it is stacked against the loser of the Super Bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 its called being a realist. I cheer for this team no matter who we play against and no matter how much we're losing by I still have hope. But in the end, you can't expect us to go 16-0. We're gonna lose some games here and there and I expect 1 possibly 2 of them to be in the 1st 4 weeks.Never said we'd go 16-0 but to say we'll go 2-2 in our 1st 4 games because Mathis is out is truly sadNow if Andrew was out for those 4 games I'd believe it a bit more even though i believe Matt could do decent in our offense with all those weaponsBut Robert Mathis being out doesn't automatically spell the end for the Colts. This is exactly what the Colts needed, not on these terms though but needed it. Let's see how we do without Mathis. Last year we saw how we are without Reggie, now let's see how we do without the star on defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 We will beat Denver by getting pressure up the middle that is where Manning can't take it. I think Denver is going to regret letting Moreno go when it comes to picking up the blitz should be able to confuse Ball who is probably good for a fumble too. We will be able to score on them. The Super Bowl loser hasn't covered the spread for 12/13 years so the game should be close and have only managed to win outright 3x. I like our chances in this game. I will be taking he points and the money line.Chip Kelly's offense is built around the run Shady is the head of that snake. It should be a good test to see where our run D is at. I think we will like it. The home opener. I also think Foles and Chip's offense could take a step back this year with a full year of tape on both. We have extra days to prepare. Adam puts it away late from 30 yards out.At Jags these fools always gives us a good game but we just have to much fire powerHome Titans at home I expect a win no late winner from Adam necessary here Isn't Luck undefeated vs Tennessee?That my friend is how we are 4-0 when Mathis returns. We only face one team that has a QB in Luck's class and he is getting up there in age and man it is stacked against the loser of the Super Bowl losers.Eagles are not a threat. Who's Foles gonna throw to? Cooper? Give me a break. Stop McCoy, win the game. They were stupid to cut Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcolt Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Eagles are not a threat. Who's Foles gonna throw to? Cooper?Give me a break. Stop McCoy, win the game. They were stupid to cut JacksonEveryone is a threat but we should beat the Eagles I am saying 4-0. They got Macklin too drafted Matthews and Huff and Chip likes the TE. He will use Sproles too but he is getting old. I watched a lot of Duck games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Eagles are not a threat. Who's Foles gonna throw to? Cooper?Give me a break. Stop McCoy, win the game. They were stupid to cut JacksonCooper.....Sproles.....Jordan Mathhews, Mccoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Cooper.....Sproles.....Jordan Mathhews, MccoyRiley Cooper is average Vontae should strap himSproles is old, ONE hit from Landry (If he ever learns to wrap up) should KO himJordan Matthews never heard of so must be a Rookie. Not worried about himAnd Shady can be taken out the game like the Saints did in the playoffs. Eagles offense really isn't as good as people hype it to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestQBever Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Eagles are not a threat. Who's Foles gonna throw to? Cooper?Give me a break. Stop McCoy, win the game. They were stupid to cut Jacksoneasier said than done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 I hope Werner steps up, but honestly I'm not expecting great things from him. His two sacks late last season were coverage sacks. If he is going to be a difference make he will need to make a huge leap from last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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