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#41 Dustin

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 04:32 PM

A thread like this in all honesty cant be fair,because a lot of people didnt have the opportunity to see some of the greats play


Wouldn't any list that ranked people be unfair then?

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#42 Jay Kirk

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 05:14 PM

Wouldn't any list that ranked people be unfair then?

Imo ranking one player best all time for a franchise might be impossable unless your say talking Michael Jordan,but reffering to the Colts yes not putting anyone down and know its just opinions,as well as fun,but just stating no way to pinpoint one ,not even QB



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Posted 19 February 2013 - 05:15 PM

Imo ranking one player best all time for a franchise might be impossable unless your say talking Michael Jordan,but reffering to the Colts yes not putting anyone down and know its just opinions,as well as fun,but just stating no way to pinpoint one ,not even QB

 

Oh yeah of course it's going to be hard for everybody to agree. That's why I started this thread. I wanted to see everybody's opinions.


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Posted 19 February 2013 - 05:17 PM

Oh yeah of course it's going to be hard for everybody to agree. That's why I started this thread. I wanted to see everybody's opinions.

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#45 tahuyaman

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:13 PM

hmmmmm......



#46 tahuyaman

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:18 PM

9ers- Ronny Lott

Bears- Walter Payton

Bengals- Anthony Munoz

Bills- OJ Simpson

Broncos- Shannon Sharpe

Browns- Jim Brown

Buccaneers- LeRoy Selmon

Cardinals- Dick (Night train) Lane

Chargers-Lance Alworth

Chiefs- Buck Buchanan

Colts- Mike Curtis

Cowboys- Bob Hayes

Dolphins- Paul Warfield

Eagles- Reggie White

Falcons- Deion Sanders

Giants- Lawrence Taylor

Jaguars- Fred Taylor

Jets- Mark Gastineau

Lions- Barry Sanders

Packers- Paul Hornung

Panthers- Steve Smith

Patriots- Andre Tippett

Raiders- Gene Upshaw

Rams- Merlin Olsen

Ravens- Jonathan Ogden

Redskins- Ken Houston

Saints- Willie Roaf

Seahawks- Steve Largent

Steelers- Jack Lambert

Texans- Andre Johnson

Titans / Oilers- Earl Campbell

Vikings- Adrian Peterson

There, no QB's.   I know you younger folks will argue with my pick for the Colts.   But that's because you just don't know.



#47 tahuyaman

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:21 PM

Many of you younger guys don't know who some of those players are.



#48 Jay Kirk

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:52 PM

Many of you younger guys don't know who some of those players are.

exactly my point lol but its all in fun



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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:51 AM

Many of you younger guys don't know who some of those players are.

Do you know any of the newer players in the league? You sound like age is a badge of honour. This is a good fun topic, yet you pick your way through it like it was a field of nettles......


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 08:51 AM

Many of you younger guys don't know who some of those players are.

Welp, good thing we have YouTube.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:56 AM

Do you know any of the newer players in the league? You sound like age is a badge of honour. This is a good fun topic, yet you pick your way through it like it was a field of nettles......

Of course i know who the great players of today are.  And yes, along with age comes wisdom that youngsters don't have.  

 

That being said, your "field of nettles" comment has me scratching my head a bit.



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Posted 20 February 2013 - 02:25 PM

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#53 GoPats

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:07 PM

Do you know any of the newer players in the league? You sound like age is a badge of honour. This is a good fun topic, yet you pick your way through it like it was a field of nettles......

 

 

Of course i know who the great players of today are.  And yes, along with age comes wisdom that youngsters don't have.  

 

That being said, your "field of nettles" comment has me scratching my head a bit.

 

Wallace throws some common vernacular from "across the pond" at us once in a while to keep us all on our collective toes. He's good people though, don't worry about him. ;)    Far as nettles are concerned, think thorny, flowering plants.

 

Would you really rate Andre Tippett higher than, say, Tom Brady though? I was a fan through Tippett's prime, loved the guy. But I'd say he's maybe the fourth best Patriot of all time, behind Brady, Hannah, and Bruce Armstrong.



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Posted 21 February 2013 - 03:54 AM

Wallace throws some common vernacular from "across the pond" at us once in a while to keep us all on our collective toes. He's good people though, don't worry about him. ;)    Far as nettles are concerned, think thorny, flowering plants.

 

Would you really rate Andre Tippett higher than, say, Tom Brady though? I was a fan through Tippett's prime, loved the guy. But I'd say he's maybe the fourth best Patriot of all time, behind Brady, Hannah, and Bruce Armstrong.

Thank you sir.

 

Hannah. Interesting. We could have our favourite 'palindromic' player. Like Abba is my favourite band.....

 

And why isn't palindrome a palindrome.....?


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:56 AM

49ers- Jerry Rice

 

Bears- Walter Payton

 

Bengals- Anthony Munoz

 

Bills- Jim Kelly

 

Broncos- John Elway

 

Browns- Jim Brown

 

Buccaneers- Warren Sapp

 

Cardinals- Fitzgerald

 

ChargersDan Fouts

 

Chiefs- Will Shields

 

Colts- Peyton Manning

 

Cowboys- Emmitt Smith

 

Dolphins- Dan Marino

 

Eagles- Reggie White

 

Falcons- Deion Sanders

 

Giants- Lawrence Taylor

 

Jaguars- Maurice Jones Drew

 

Jets- Joe Namath

 

Lions- Barry Sanders

 

Packers- Brett Favre

 

Panthers- Steve Smith

 

Patriots- Tom Brady

 

Raiders- Marcus Allen

 

Rams- Marshal Faulk

 

Ravens- Ray Lewis

 

Redskins- Art Monk

 

Saints- Willie Roaf

 

Seahawks- Walter Jones

 

Steelers- Joe Greene

 

Texans- Andre Johnson

 

Titans- Steve Mcnair

 

Vikings- Alan Page

 

 

 

Many to choose from for many teams, hard to narrow it down to 1 per team



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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:06 AM

49ers- Jerry Rice

Bears- Walter Payton

Bengals- Anthony Munoz

Bills- OJ Simpson

Broncos- Randy Gradishar

Browns- Joe Thomas

Buccaneers- LeRoy Selmon

Cardinals- Larry Fitzgerald

Chargers- Kellen Winslow

Chiefs- Tony Gonzalez

Colts- Jim Parker

Cowboys- Bob Lilly

Dolphins- Dwight Stephenson

Eagles- Reggie White

Falcons- Deion Sanders

Giants- Lawrence Taylor

Jaguars- Fred Taylor

Jets- Darrell Revis

Lions- Barry Sanders

Packers- Ray Nitschke

Panthers- Steve Smith

Patriots- Mike Haynes

Raiders- Art Shell

Rams- Merlin Olsen

Ravens- Jim Brown

Redskins- Darrell Green

Saints- Willie Roaf

Seahawks- Walter Jones

Steelers- Joe Greene

Texans- Andre Johnson

Titans- Earl Campbell

Vikings- Alan Page

#57 BrentMc11

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:23 AM

exactly my point lol but its all in fun

Does it mean I am old to know all of the old players listed?   :funny:


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#58 Jay Kirk

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:29 AM

Does it mean I am old to know all of the old players listed?   :funny:

no lol just well experienced :spit: like me



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Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:56 AM

My choices are below in red...

 

49ers- Jerry Rice ..agreed

 

Bears- Walter Payton...Could add Dick Butkus or Mike Singletary as well

 

Bengals- Anthony Munoz..Cris Collisworth..(J/k) agreed

 

Bills- OJ Simpson...Andre Reed, Thurman Thomas, Cornelius Bennett also come to mind

 

Broncos- Terrell Davis...agreed, but Floyd Little deserves some mention as well..on D..Steve Atwater was a beast in the secondary, along with Randy Gradishar at LB both multiple Pro Bowlers

 

Browns- Jim Brown agreed

 

Buccaneers- Warren Sapp ...The Best Buc was Lee Roy Selmon...hands down

 

Cardinals- Fitzgerald..Ottis "OJ" Anderson..is my vote

 

ChargersLadainian Tomlinson... My vote would be Kellen Winslow....Lance Alworth and Chuck Muncie could be considered as well...

 

Chiefs- Derrick Thomas..My vote would be Tony Gonzalez...Could also add Otis Taylor and one of the few kickers in the Hall of Fame Jan Stenerud to the discussion.

 

Colts- Dwight Freeney..New School I'd go with Marvin, then Edge..Old School..too many to name..John Mackey, Lenny Moore, Tom Matte, the list goes on and on...

 

Cowboys- Emmitt Smith.. agreed, but could add Tony Dorsett, Randy White to the discussion..

 

Dolphins- Jason Taylor...Larry Csonka gets my vote, butNick Buoniconti..Larry Little could be added to the discussion

 

Eagles- Reggie White..agreed

 

Falcons- Deion Sanders..I'd go with Warrick Dunn over Sanders

 

Giants- Lawrence Taylor..no brainer here

 

Jaguars- Fred Taylor ...agreed

 

Jets- Curtis Martin..agreed

 

Lions- Barry Sanders..agreed..

 

Packers- Don Hutson...Ray Nitchske, Paul Hornung, and Jim Taylor are in the mix for that as well...any of these 4 deserve it

 

Panthers- Steve Smith..agreed

 

Patriots- John Hannah...Mike Haynes..

 

Raiders- Marcus Allen..My vote is for Fred Bilitnekoff...consider also Kim Otto, and Art Shell

 

Rams- Marshal Faulk... Eric Dickerson is my pick, but with Deacon Jones, Rosie Grier, Merlin Olsen, Jack Youngblood.getting consideration.

 

Ravens- Jonathan Ogden..Ray Lewis hands down..

 

Redskins- Art Monk..my vote is Darrell Green with John Riggins, Charlie Taylor, and Russ Grimm getting consideration

 

Saints- Willie Roaf agreed

 

Seahawks- Walter Jones my vote is Steve Largent with consideration to Curt Warner (no not the QB)

 

Steelers- Joe Greene..Jack Lambert would get my vote, but almost anyone on offense and defense from those Steeler teams are in the running..

 

Texans- Andre Johnson..agreed

 

Titans- Eddie George  since they were the Houston Oilers before they moved...Earl Campbell..hands down

 

Vikings- Alan Page,,..Carl Eller was the bookend and Jim Marshall and Chuck Foreman get some votes as well..

 

 

 

Too many to name for the old Cots is true but you left off the 3 players that were better than all that you named.

 

Jim Parker

Gino Marchetti

Ray Berry



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Posted 21 February 2013 - 12:29 PM



True Jay...was Walter Payton REALLY better than Red Grange?

The Packers Don Hutson was the dominant receiver of the 1st half of the 20th Century.

He caught something like 70 passes for 1200 yards in 1942..

That's like catching 200 for 3,000 yards today...

#61 GoPats

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 10:59 AM

Thank you sir.

 

Hannah. Interesting. We could have our favourite 'palindromic' player. Like Abba is my favourite band.....

 

And why isn't palindrome a palindrome.....?

 

Abba?

 

My palindromic reaction to that is simply, "gag." ;)



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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:25 AM

Wallace throws some common vernacular from "across the pond" at us once in a while to keep us all on our collective toes. He's good people though, don't worry about him. ;)    Far as nettles are concerned, think thorny, flowering plants.

 

Would you really rate Andre Tippett higher than, say, Tom Brady though? I was a fan through Tippett's prime, loved the guy. But I'd say he's maybe the fourth best Patriot of all time, behind Brady, Hannah, and Bruce Armstrong.

I put Tippett as their best "non QB" player of all time.  Tippett is a hall of famer and possibly the best linebacker of his era. And yes, I think he's the best player ever from the Pats.  

 

And besides, I have a hard time putting an active player on that kind of list.  Yes, I have Adrian Peterson on the list for the Vikings, but that's only because I had to eliminate a QB.



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Posted 22 February 2013 - 03:18 PM

I put Tippett as their best "non QB" player of all time.  Tippett is a hall of famer and possibly the best linebacker of his era. And yes, I think he's the best player ever from the Pats.  

 

And besides, I have a hard time putting an active player on that kind of list.  Yes, I have Adrian Peterson on the list for the Vikings, but that's only because I had to eliminate a QB.

 

Did I mess that up somehow? (I thought it was someone else who listed Tippett.)

 

Don't get me wrong, I had a #56 jersey at one point. ;)   But, you know, Tippett's era of the NFL included this guy name Lawrence Taylor, who was probably a better LB.

 

He's actually working for the team still, in some kind of community relations capacity. Very smart guy, from what I hear. And something like an 8th degree black belt, lol...



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Posted 22 February 2013 - 03:22 PM

Did I mess that up somehow? (I thought it was someone else who listed Tippett.)

 

Don't get me wrong, I had a #56 jersey at one point. ;)   But, you know, Tippett's era of the NFL included this guy name Lawrence Taylor, who was probably a better LB.

 

He's actually working for the team still, in some kind of community relations capacity. Very smart guy, from what I hear. And something like an 8th degree black belt, lol...

I will still say Tippett is the best non QB player ever from the Patriots history.  Lawrence taylor has no impact on my thoughts on Tippett.  

 

 

 

Tippett is a member of the NFL’s 1980s all-decade team and was selected to five Pro Bowls in his career, earning the nod in five straight seasons from 1984–88.

From 1984–85, Tippett recorded the highest two-season sack total by a linebacker in NFL history, totaling 35.0 sacks during the two seasons. His 18.5 sacks in 1984 are the third most by any linebacker in a single season, while his 16.5 sacks in 1985 are tied for the sixth most by any linebacker in NFL history.

Tippett holds the Patriots’ franchise record with 100.0 career sacks. He also owns the top three single-season sack performances in Patriots history (18.5 in 1984, 16.5 in 1985 and 12.5 in 1987). He ranked seventh on the all-time sacks list, and third among linebackers, at the time of his retirement following the 1993 season. Over his career, Tippett recorded 100 sacks in 151 games, an average of 0.662 sacks per game. The mark currently ranks fourth in NFL history among linebackers.

After not recording a sack as a rookie in 1982, Tippett finished either first or second on the team in sacks in each of his final 10 seasons. He led the team in sacks six times and finished second on the team four times. Tippett recorded 30 multiple-sack games in his career and sacked a total of 41 different quarterbacks. Tippett recovered 18 opponents’ fumbles during his career, tying him for first on the Patriots’ all-time list (Steve Nelson). He also forced 17 fumbles in his career.

Tippett was named the AFC’s Linebacker of the Year by the NFL Players Association for three straight seasons from 1985–87. He was voted to the Associated Press All-NFL First-team on two occasions (1985 and 1987) and Second-team on two other occasions (1986 and 1988). He was also named to the NFL Films All-Pro team in 1984.

He was voted the Newspaper Enterprise Association (NEA) co-Defensive Player of the Year (with Raider Howie Long) in 1985. Additionally, he was voted the 1985 UPI AFL-AFC Defensive Player of the Year.

Tippett spent his entire 12-year career with the Patriots and was a member of three playoff teams, including the 1985 AFC Champions.

 
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 03:27 PM

I will still say Tippett is the best non QB player ever from the Patriots history.  Lawrence taylor has no impact on my thoughts on Tippett.  

 

I only brought up LT since you mentioned Tippett as the best LB from his era.

 

Don't get me wrong, this is a completely subjective, opinion-based thing. And by no means am I disrespecting Tippett. Heck of a player, and definitely one of the best Patriots ever.



#66 Dustin

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 03:30 PM

I put Tippett as their best "non QB" player of all time.  Tippett is a hall of famer and possibly the best linebacker of his era. And yes, I think he's the best player ever from the Pats.  

 

And besides, I have a hard time putting an active player on that kind of list.  Yes, I have Adrian Peterson on the list for the Vikings, but that's only because I had to eliminate a QB.

 

Best LB of his era? You know that Lawrence Taylor and Mike Singletary played during that era right?


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Posted 22 February 2013 - 07:33 PM

Best LB of his era? You know that Lawrence Taylor and Mike Singletary played during that era right?

Taylor had a far better supporting cast around him.  Same with Singletary.  Tippett was one of the greats at his position.....period.



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Posted 27 February 2013 - 01:36 PM

The greatest non QB Colt is Raymond Berry. Case closed!!!


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Posted 27 February 2013 - 01:42 PM

The point of eliminating QB's is that it's a "given" that for virtually every team, a QB would be their "best" player. Most of us know them off the top of our head.

I can find many teams who's best all time player is not a QB.  



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Posted 01 March 2013 - 11:15 AM

Colts:

Bubba Smith

John Mackey

Geno Marchetti

Art Donovan


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