twfish Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago Not only is our defense so bad that it's allowing teams to beat us, it's also so bad that it's opening the eye's of the QB's and giving them confidence to play better ball. This is down right embarrassing IMHO. It's regardless of personnel as we have seen the past 3 years be the same thing. Soft zones with "bend, don't break" mentality that gasses our defense which ultimately results in a lot of breaks. Poor tackling, which is a direct result off coaching, allows huge chunk plays which totally negates playing soft zone. Lets take a look at how QB's have faired against us and after us, I'll be pairing in PFF stats as well a yardage and passer rating to paint the entire picture. Stats against us will be in blue. C.J stroud Completion % 75%/63.%/64.5%/67.5%/73.7 Yards 234/260/215/344/331 Yards per attempt 7.3/7.2/6.9/8.6/8.7 PFF offensive grade 67.9/75.2/64.6/74.5/80.6 Passer rating 115.9/94.7/68.6/110.9/97.6 Malik Willis (this one really hurts because he was a back up who was just brought in) Completion % 0%/85.7%/68.4% Yards 0/122/202 YPA 0/8.7/10.6 PFF offensive grade 42.5/71.8/75.9 Passer Rating 39.6/126.8/120.9 Caleb Williams Completion % 48.3%/62.2%/63.5%/73.9%/69.0% Yards 93/174/363/157/304 YPA 3.2/4.7/7.0/6.8/10.5 PFF offensive grade 49.1/45.1/57.4/65.6/72.0 Passer Rating 55.7/51.0/80.8/106.6/126.2 Justin Fields Completion % 73.9/65.0/78.1/64.7/55.6 Yards 156/117/244/312/132 YPA 6.8/5.9/7.6/9.2/4.9 PFF offensive grade 75.9/69.9/75.4/67.0/59.1 Passer Rating 91.9/97.3/96.0/104.0/93.3 Trevor Lawrence Completion % 57.1%/46.7%/55.3%/54.5%/82.4% Yards 162/220/178/173/371 YPA 7.7/7.3/4.7/5.2/10.9 PFF offensive grade 75.1/67.5/51.1/57.9/89.8 Passer Rating 97/7/71.5/65.5/89.1/119.5 High completion percentage paired with high yards per attempt is incredibly unacceptable. Looking at the coverage grades from our CB's, they don't grade terribly so that tells me, along with the eye test, that scheme and play calling is the reason. The story has been the same year after year for Gus and team after team. He will continue to be an issue for this team. He needs to go. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago We had a stretch last year with the Jaguars, Saints and Browns games where we gave 35+ as an average, if I am not mistaken. Hope this Jaguars game isn't the start of another ugly stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Waylon Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago What’s the record for consecutive career days to opposing QBs? If we haven’t set it, we’ve gotta be getting close, surely… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougDew Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago Not seeing the story here. The only one that really stands out is Lawrence. Other QBs passer ratings or other stats don't show us as much of an outlier. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indyfan4life Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 16 minutes ago, DougDew said: Not seeing the story here. The only one that really stands out is Lawrence. Other QBs passer ratings or other stats don't show us as much of an outlier. Surely you’re joking. Surely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougDew Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Indyfan4life said: Surely you’re joking. Surely. What are you seeing? Other than Lawrence, all QBs posted some better numbers in other weeks. The passer rating is the most important. Slightly higher, but its not like they posted great numbers against us then bad numbers every other time. Fields, Williams, and Willis are having pretty good success elsewhere. Stroud is too. Only Lawrence shows dramatic difference, but he's a good QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisaaron1023 Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago This has been going on for a long time. I think Drew Brees played us like 5 times in his career and probably had 15 incompletions TOTAL it was ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Waylon Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 16 minutes ago, DougDew said: What are you seeing? Other than Lawrence, all QBs posted some better numbers in other weeks. The passer rating is the most important. Slightly higher, but its not like they posted great numbers against us then bad numbers every other time. Fields, Williams, and Willis are having pretty good success elsewhere. Stroud is too. Only Lawrence shows dramatic difference, but he's a good QB. Willams has only looked good against us, and Carolina. Carolina! He hasn’t thrown for half as many yards in a game against anyone as he has against us. And Carolina. Carolina. We let Malik Willis have a career day. Malik Willis. You really can’t see a pattern forming here? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two_pound Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago That was funny John, and spot on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediXMan Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, chad72 said: We had a stretch last year with the Jaguars, Saints and Browns games where we gave 35+ as an average, if I am not mistaken. Hope this Jaguars game isn't the start of another ugly stretch. I don’t see it with the Titans or Tua less Dolphins. However Weeks 8-10 could get ugly Hou, Min, Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Waylon Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, JediXMan said: I don’t see it with the Titans or Tua less Dolphins. However Weeks 8-10 could get ugly Hou, Min, Bills. I could see it with the Titans. Levis can rip and Calvin Ridley can still make plays. Levis could well have a big game in that one. The Dolphins without Tua I agree. There should be nothing go wrong that week. Let’s see if they can pass that test. 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyagent17 Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 48 minutes ago, Indyfan4life said: Surely you’re joking. Surely. No kidding! Passer rating means nothing. Its a yardstick for how well a QB plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyagent17 Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Until we bring in a top defensive mind this trend will just go on and on. Irsay and Ballard needs to find this person and target them and I am so over older DC's We need innovation and accountability and schemes that are from this century Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Until we get rid of the Gus Bradley scheme and coaching, this will happen every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indyfan4life Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, DougDew said: What are you seeing? Other than Lawrence, all QBs posted some better numbers in other weeks. The passer rating is the most important. Slightly higher, but its not like they posted great numbers against us then bad numbers every other time. Fields, Williams, and Willis are having pretty good success elsewhere. Stroud is too. Only Lawrence shows dramatic difference, but he's a good QB. Three QB’s in a row had career games against us. Jacobs and Mixon had their best game in YEARS. Idk how else to convey this defense is trash along with Bradley and Ballard to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbaron04 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Teams and QBs always get right on us. We need an aggressive attacking defense to match Shane. Gus type of defense doesn’t work in NFL because you can’t protect the soft spots in a zone with big hits. Back in the day cover 3 had holes but you could knock a guy head off to complete a pass , which you can’t do today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbaron04 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 9 minutes ago, csmopar said: Until we get rid of the Gus Bradley scheme and coaching, this will happen every week. Gus scheme doesn’t work work in 2024 but to be fair guys have to make tackles and players have to make plays. Like how many of them drives is done if a guy makes a tackle etc…. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 20 minutes ago, jbaron04 said: Gus scheme doesn’t work work in 2024 but to be fair guys have to make tackles and players have to make plays. Like how many of them drives is done if a guy makes a tackle etc…. Yes but that’s been a common theme since Bradley has been here, no matter who we have playing where it’s the same thing, missed tackles, blown coverages and playing 10 yards off WRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdgacoltsfan Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 3 hours ago, twfish said: Not only is our defense so bad that it's allowing teams to beat us, it's also so bad that it's opening the eye's of the QB's and giving them confidence to play better ball. This is down right embarrassing IMHO. It's regardless of personnel as we have seen the past 3 years be the same thing. Soft zones with "bend, don't break" mentality that gasses our defense which ultimately results in a lot of breaks. Poor tackling, which is a direct result off coaching, allows huge chunk plays which totally negates playing soft zone. Lets take a look at how QB's have faired against us and after us, I'll be pairing in PFF stats as well a yardage and passer rating to paint the entire picture. Stats against us will be in blue. C.J stroud Completion % 75%/63.%/64.5%/67.5%/73.7 Yards 234/260/215/344/331 Yards per attempt 7.3/7.2/6.9/8.6/8.7 PFF offensive grade 67.9/75.2/64.6/74.5/80.6 Passer rating 115.9/94.7/68.6/110.9/97.6 Malik Willis (this one really hurts because he was a back up who was just brought in) Completion % 0%/85.7%/68.4% Yards 0/122/202 YPA 0/8.7/10.6 PFF offensive grade 42.5/71.8/75.9 Passer Rating 39.6/126.8/120.9 Caleb Williams Completion % 48.3%/62.2%/63.5%/73.9%/69.0% Yards 93/174/363/157/304 YPA 3.2/4.7/7.0/6.8/10.5 PFF offensive grade 49.1/45.1/57.4/65.6/72.0 Passer Rating 55.7/51.0/80.8/106.6/126.2 Justin Fields Completion % 73.9/65.0/78.1/64.7/55.6 Yards 156/117/244/312/132 YPA 6.8/5.9/7.6/9.2/4.9 PFF offensive grade 75.9/69.9/75.4/67.0/59.1 Passer Rating 91.9/97.3/96.0/104.0/93.3 Trevor Lawrence Completion % 57.1%/46.7%/55.3%/54.5%/82.4% Yards 162/220/178/173/371 YPA 7.7/7.3/4.7/5.2/10.9 PFF offensive grade 75.1/67.5/51.1/57.9/89.8 Passer Rating 97/7/71.5/65.5/89.1/119.5 High completion percentage paired with high yards per attempt is incredibly unacceptable. Looking at the coverage grades from our CB's, they don't grade terribly so that tells me, along with the eye test, that scheme and play calling is the reason. The story has been the same year after year for Gus and team after team. He will continue to be an issue for this team. He needs to go. It's been this way for decades. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdgacoltsfan Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, John Waylon said: I could see it with the Titans. Levis can rip and Calvin Ridley can still make plays. Levis could well have a big game in that one. The Dolphins without Tua I agree. There should be nothing go wrong that week. Let’s see if they can pass that test. 😬 Levis ripped it so bad last week, they benched him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Waylon Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 35 minutes ago, cdgacoltsfan said: Levis ripped it so bad last week, they benched him. And how’d that work out for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdgacoltsfan Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 7 minutes ago, John Waylon said: And how’d that work out for them? Pretty good actually...They won Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 2 hours ago, John Waylon said: Willams has only looked good against us, and Carolina. Carolina! He hasn’t thrown for half as many yards in a game against anyone as he has against us. And Carolina. Carolina. We let Malik Willis have a career day. Malik Willis. You really can’t see a pattern forming here? You think Will Levis has been praying for this week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Waylon Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, Smonroe said: You think Will Levis has been praying for this week? We’re a get right defense. 1 hour ago, cdgacoltsfan said: Pretty good actually...They won Yeah they really dominated the dolphins, didn’t they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougDew Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 4 hours ago, Indyfan4life said: Three QB’s in a row had career games against us. Jacobs and Mixon had their best game in YEARS. Idk how else to convey this defense is trash along with Bradley and Ballard to you. With the hyperbole of "career games" and the obvious thinking that Fields, Williams, and Willis are terrible QBs, I was expecting some huge difference in the numbers presented by the OP. There really isn't. I don't know why you're going off on RBs, Gus' total D, or Ballard. This thread is about QB stats against the Colts. 5 hours ago, John Waylon said: Willams has only looked good against us, and Carolina. Carolina! He hasn’t thrown for half as many yards in a game against anyone as he has against us. And Carolina. Carolina. We let Malik Willis have a career day. Malik Willis. You really can’t see a pattern forming here? Not with the stats presented. It looks like those three QBs will have some better games against other defenses sprinkled throughout the season. But Willis probably won't play anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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