CR91 2.0 mock off-season

[CR91]

According to Spotrac, the colts have 68 mil in cap space.

 

Cut

 

Jack Doyle - Saves 4.5 mil

 

Cap space 72.5 mil

 

Re-Sign

 

Houston - 2 year 21 mil 10g - While Houston's QB hits has gone down, his pressure and sacks are still there along with his play in the run game.

 

Rhodes - 2 year 17 mil 8g - Rhodes more then proven he can still play as a top corner and is a must re-sign.

 

Hilton - 2 year 18 mil 9g - it's a low ball offer, but I really hope Hilton is open to taking a hometown discount. I still think Hilton can play and be productive.

 

Carrie - 2 year 5 mil 3g - Carrie provided key depth and was able to come in right away and start inside and outside.

 

Mohammed - 2 year 4 mil 2g - Mohammed would be cheaper to keep then Autry and provides good depth and pressure.

 

Cap Space 50 mil

 

Trade

 

Carson Wentz and Zach Ertz - a 2nd and 4th this year and next year. A little more then what the colts are offering, but I think that will be enough to get both players.

 

Cap space 20 mil

 

Free Agency

 

JJ Watt - 2 year 24 mil 10g - I really hope we can get Watt as I feel Buckner and Watt inside together will give us a lot of single matchups outside which we can take advantage of also our run defense would be next level.

 

Cap Space 8 mil

 

Draft

 

Colts trade down with the Bucs from 21 to 32 for their second round pick.

 

1. Liam Eichenberg OT Notre Dame

 

Notre Dame continues to produce linemen and now we have our future LT with Nelson too on the left for a long time.

 

2. Patrick Jones Edge Pittsburgh

 

Jones is a fast pass rusher with length and size who is very good at setting the edge and improved his pass rush skills this year.

 

3. Chuba Hubbard RB Oklahoma State

 

Chuba opted out for the 2020 season, but 2019 he lead the country in rushing yards and would be a great one two punch with Taylor.

 

5. Larnel Coleman T U Mass

 

Hidden gem imo as he was productive the past few years and this year before the pandemic.

 

6. Trae Barry TE Jacksonville State

 

Raw receiver with an incredible mismatch in size at 6 7 240 pounds and 4.7 speed. 

 

7. Buddy Johnson ILB Texas A&M

 

Tackling machine to add depth with Walker most likely leaving for free agency

[PrincetonTiger]

Not bad

[MikeCurtis]

I like it.... Fills a LOT of holes

 

The Chuba pick should be a TE....  (We still need another)

[CR91]

Just now, MikeCurtis said:

I like it.... Fills a LOT of holes

 

The Chuba pick should be a TE....  (We still need another)

 

But I traded for Ertz.

[MikeCurtis]

2 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

But I traded for Ertz.

I see that but Ertz isnt the top TE with the eagles anymore... still good though

[RNGDShobby]

Love it. Especially the re-signs.

[Mr.Debonair]

No WR help. Not sure I like that part

[CR91]

2 minutes ago, Mr.Debonair said:

No WR help. Not sure I like that part

 

Unfortunately we have bigger needs. Hilton is still productive and we still have Pascal and Pittman. Also hopefully Campbell can stay healthy.

[jskinnz]

2 hours ago, CR91 said:

According to Spotrac, the colts have 68 mil in cap space.

 

Cut

 

Jack Doyle - Saves 4.5 mil

 

Cap space 72.5 mil

 

Re-Sign

 

Houston - 2 year 21 mil 10g - While Houston's QB hits has gone down, his pressure and sacks are still there along with his play in the run game.

 

Rhodes - 2 year 17 mil 8g - Rhodes more then proven he can still play as a top corner and is a must re-sign.

 

Hilton - 2 year 18 mil 9g - it's a low ball offer, but I really hope Hilton is open to taking a hometown discount. I still think Hilton can play and be productive.

 

Carrie - 2 year 5 mil 3g - Carrie provided key depth and was able to come in right away and start inside and outside.

 

Mohammed - 2 year 4 mil 2g - Mohammed would be cheaper to keep then Autry and provides good depth and pressure.

 

Cap Space 50 mil

 

Trade

 

Carson Wentz and Zach Ertz - a 2nd and 4th this year and next year. A little more then what the colts are offering, but I think that will be enough to get both players.

 

Cap space 20 mil

 

Free Agency

 

JJ Watt - 2 year 24 mil 10g - I really hope we can get Watt as I feel Buckner and Watt inside together will give us a lot of single matchups outside which we can take advantage of also our run defense would be next level.

 

Cap Space 8 mil

 

Draft

 

Colts trade down with the Bucs from 21 to 32 for their second round pick.

 

1. Liam Eichenberg OT Notre Dame

 

Notre Dame continues to produce linemen and now we have our future LT with Nelson too on the left for a long time.

 

2. Patrick Jones Edge Pittsburgh

 

Jones is a fast pass rusher with length and size who is very good at setting the edge and improved his pass rush skills this year.

 

3. Chuba Hubbard RB Oklahoma State

 

Chuba opted out for the 2020 season, but 2019 he lead the country in rushing yards and would be a great one two punch with Taylor.

 

5. Larnel Coleman T U Mass

 

Hidden gem imo as he was productive the past few years and this year before the pandemic.

 

6. Trae Barry TE Jacksonville State

 

Raw receiver with an incredible mismatch in size at 6 7 240 pounds and 4.7 speed. 

 

7. Buddy Johnson ILB Texas A&M

 

Tackling machine to add depth with Walker most likely leaving for free agency

Why is Tampa trading up?

[CR91]

14 minutes ago, jskinnz said:

Why is Tampa trading up?

 

My thinking is Tampa can't keep all of their players so their looking to be aggressive while they still have Brady and Co

[Defjamz26]

I can’t get behind taking a RB in the 3rd

[Hoose]

You need to upgrade the WR corps. You can’t count on Campbell to have a healthy year nor TY to bounce back to his old self. Because he’s getting old! 
Fix that problem and I like your approach. 

[CR91]

22 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

I can’t get behind taking a RB in the 3rd

 

We need another back in case god forbid something happens to Taylor also to help carry the load.

[CR91]

40 minutes ago, Hoose said:

You need to upgrade the WR corps. You can’t count on Campbell to have a healthy year nor TY to bounce back to his old self. Because he’s getting old! 
Fix that problem and I like your approach. 

 

It's not that simple. We have other needs to take care of and It would take somewhere around 16-17 mil to get Allen Robinson, Golladay, or Juju.

[Hoose]

2 hours ago, CR91 said:

 

It's not that simple. We have other needs to take care of and It would take somewhere around 16-17 mil to get Allen Robinson, Golladay, or Juju.

Not with the squeeze on the cap this year. I doubt any non QB gets that kind of a deal. Of course, if TY is gone, under your scenario, it’s only a $3m increase to get a player like Robinson. Worth it even if it costs that much. But I doubt it will. 

[CR91]

54 minutes ago, Hoose said:

Not with the squeeze on the cap this year. I doubt any non QB gets that kind of a deal. Of course, if TY is gone, under your scenario, it’s only a $3m increase to get a player like Robinson. Worth it even if it costs that much. But I doubt it will. 

 

Players don't care about that. They want to get paid and not a single one of those guys will come here for 12 mil. I guarantee that.

[tvturner]

The 3rd rounder is a wasted pick

[boo2202]

Hubbard is a stud. 

[coltsfanmurf]

I really like the Patrick Jones pick.  

 

Another guy I would like to see in 4th round (if he lasts that long) is T Spencer Brown from UNI.

[Defjamz26]

12 hours ago, CR91 said:

 

We need another back in case god forbid something happens to Taylor also to help carry the load.

That much I agree with. But 3rd round is too high for that. That’s a 4th round or later pick.

[CR91]

2 hours ago, Defjamz26 said:

That much I agree with. But 3rd round is too high for that. That’s a 4th round or later pick.

 

Perhaps, but I'm telling you Hubbard is worth the pick. Look at his tape.

[CR91]

11 hours ago, tvturner said:

The 3rd rounder is a wasted pick

 

So if Taylor gets hurt, what do you suggest we do?

[Nate!]

26 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

So if Taylor gets hurt, what do you suggest we do?

A non-third rounder.  Rather take an FA or a later pick though don’t have a problem with the player just not sure best pick up for the Colts considering needs.

[CR91]

3 minutes ago, Nate! said:

A non-third rounder.  Rather take an FA or a later pick though don’t have a problem with the player just not sure best pick up for the Colts considering needs.

 

We're too much of a running team to not take precaution for our run game.

[tvturner]

1 hour ago, CR91 said:

 

So if Taylor gets hurt, what do you suggest we do?

Use Hines and Wilkins...?

Or sign someone for cheap

 

We have too many needs to take a runningback in the 3rd

[CR91]

9 minutes ago, tvturner said:

Use Hines and Wilkins...?

Or sign someone for cheap

 

We have too many needs to take a runningback in the 3rd

 

Neither Hines and/or Wilkins can carry the load.

[DaColts85]

44 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

Neither Hines and/or Wilkins can carry the load.

You aren’t expecting any one player to carry to load here. We use multiples. 

[CR91]

38 minutes ago, DaColts85 said:

You aren’t expecting any one player to carry to load here. We use multiples. 

 

Of course, but I'm saying we rely do much on our run game and we've seen the difference of Taylor running the ball compared to Hines who is more of a change of pace back. We need a similar workhorse especially if one gets hurt.

[DaColts85]

28 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

Of course, but I'm saying we rely do much on our run game and we've seen the difference of Taylor running the ball compared to Hines who is more of a change of pace back. We need a similar workhorse especially if one gets hurt.

I get what you are saying but I’m not wasting an early pick for a player, just in case a starter goes down. 

[CR91]

18 minutes ago, DaColts85 said:

I get what you are saying but I’m not wasting an early pick for a player, just in case a starter goes down. 

 

It's more about sharing the workload then insurance. 

[DaColts85]

1 hour ago, CR91 said:

 

It's more about sharing the workload then insurance. 

You are already sharing the workload with what you have in the roster. Plus you can easily grab a free agent for cheap if need be. Regardless it doesn’t make sense to draft a RB in the 3rd the year after drafting one in the 2nd. WR’s yes but RB no. 

[CR91]

2 minutes ago, DaColts85 said:

You are already sharing the workload with what you have in the roster. Plus you can easily grab a free agent for cheap if need be. Regardless it doesn’t make sense to draft a RB in the 3rd the year after drafting one in the 2nd. WR’s yes but RB no. 

 

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

[DaColts85]

22 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

I agree there   I enjoy the conversation though. 

[Hoose]

CR 91, you can occasionally accept that you're not always right. Every comment to your proposed approach here generates a fierce defense from you, when maybe reality suggests somebody else actually has a good idea that may disagree with your overall premise but also complements what you're proposing. Just saying. 

[CR91]

1 minute ago, Hoose said:

CR 91, you can occasionally accept that you're not always right. Every comment to your proposed approach here generates a fierce defense from you, when maybe reality suggests somebody else actually has a good idea that may disagree with your overall premise but also complements what you're proposing. Just saying. 

 

I'm allowed to defend my point. I actually have a reason behind my decision. If you don't agree fine, but I want you to know my thinking behind my post.

[Orioles22]

I don't think we bring back Houston or Rhodes. I definitely don't see them drafting a running back.

[Defjamz26]

20 hours ago, CR91 said:

 

Perhaps, but I'm telling you Hubbard is worth the pick. Look at his tape.

Oh I’ve known about Hubbard since last season. If not for Covid, most people thought he was going to be a Heisman candidate this past season. I know how good he is. But RBs don’t win championships, especially when you already have a good one. 3rd round is too high to spend a pick on a depth player at a non-premium position.

[CR91]

7 hours ago, Defjamz26 said:

Oh I’ve known about Hubbard since last season. If not for Covid, most people thought he was going to be a Heisman candidate this past season. I know how good he is. But RBs don’t win championships, especially when you already have a good one. 3rd round is too high to spend a pick on a depth player at a non-premium position.

 

To each his own I guess. I just don't wanna put too much pressure on Taylor to carry the offense by himself.

[Hoose]

23 hours ago, CR91 said:

 

I'm allowed to defend my point. I actually have a reason behind my decision. If you don't agree fine, but I want you to know my thinking behind my post.

That's fair. Of course you can defend your reasoning. I was just noting that you fought back against every suggested alternative given by the Board. Sometimes, we can accept that every idea we have might not be the best idea. But that said, I'm glad we have passionate, engaged, thinking members on this Board like you. It makes the experience on here much better. I may not always agree with you, but I'm glad you're involved. 

[CR91]

40 minutes ago, Hoose said:

That's fair. Of course you can defend your reasoning. I was just noting that you fought back against every suggested alternative given by the Board. Sometimes, we can accept that every idea we have might not be the best idea. But that said, I'm glad we have passionate, engaged, thinking members on this Board like you. It makes the experience on here much better. I may not always agree with you, but I'm glad you're involved. 

 

I appreciate that. I'm not trying to argue, but it does make things more interesting