Top 11 Colts of All-Time (NFL.com)

[Lucky Colts Fan]

4 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

In a way I may be doing a disservice trying to rank Baltimore Colts properly to the old school fans. I never seen them live is why. I can rank the Top 25 Indianapolis Colts of all-time easily because I have seen them all live since 1984. Someone like Jimmy G or Bayone may look at my list as flawed because I wasn't watching Football back in the 50's or 60's and I don't blame them. They grew up with the Lenny Moore's and Unitas' etc..

 

Same.  I have no problem ranking Indy Colts, and Peyton is #1 by the largest of margins in my book.  It's not fair for me to try and compare Unitas and Manning, or really any Baltimore players with any Indy players.  I'd put Marvin Harrison over any Baltimore Colt because I got to see what Marvin did every game, while a Baltimore Colt fan might put almost all Baltimore Colts over Harrison.

 

[2006Coltsbestever]

26 minutes ago, Lucky Colts Fan said:

 

Same.  I have no problem ranking Indy Colts, and Peyton is #1 by the largest of margins in my book.  It's not fair for me to try and compare Unitas and Manning, or really any Baltimore players with any Indy players.  I'd put Marvin Harrison over any Baltimore Colt because I got to see what Marvin did every game, while a Baltimore Colt fan might put almost all Baltimore Colts over Harrison.

 

This makes alot of sense because to me I see no way Reggie Wayne should be ranked below Raymond Berry for example. Having said that people that watched Berry live may think I am crazy LOL. I know he isn't better than Harrison though 

[bayone]

1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

In a way I may be doing a disservice trying to rank Baltimore Colts properly to the old school fans. I never seen them live is why. I can rank the Top 25 Indianapolis Colts of all-time easily because I have seen them all live since 1984. Someone like Jimmy G or Bayone may look at my list as flawed because I wasn't watching Football back in the 50's or 60's and I don't blame them. They grew up with the Lenny Moore's and Unitas' etc..

 

also 1 must remember as you said you looked at stats , well  back then seasons were only 12 games long  so less touches for moore Vs James per year  and the sport was much tougher on ones body, ( just ask anyone head slapped by Deacon Jones ) 

 

What u need to watch is some of NFL networks top 10, The best runs or runs after the catch had that Mackey run I alluded to as 1 of the top ever,  You just cant believe how many defenders he knocked over and dragged as he just plowed ahead for a great gain ( dont remember if scored but think was finally  gang tackled ) truly showed off hisa power, strength and pure determination )  

 

Finally these old guys never had such conditioning machines nor so many positional coaches , nor nutiionalist who knew anything about fod and thre body as all was though wrong back then etc etc 

 

I will never forget and know i said this years ago Re Unitas that he was basically clotheslines across the head and blood gushed from his nose , today u immediately have a Dr at your side esp the QB , game stops as you are escorted off field after initial assessment if not carted , What happened with Unitas , Between plays Mackey stuffed mud up his nose to try and stop the bleeding, worked somewhat,Unitas still bleeding just marched downfield and threw a td - its not that the game has changed , its really a different game somewhere between old time tackle and the pro bowl for lack of an accurate comparison

[bayone]

1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

In a way I may be doing a disservice trying to rank Baltimore Colts properly to the old school fans. I never seen them live is why. I can rank the Top 25 Indianapolis Colts of all-time easily because I have seen them all live since 1984. Someone like Jimmy G or Bayone may look at my list as flawed because I wasn't watching Football back in the 50's or 60's and I don't blame them. They grew up with the Lenny Moore's and Unitas' etc..

 

also 1 must remember as you said you looked at stats , well  back then seasons were only 12 games long  so less touches for moore Vs James per year  and the sport was much tougher on ones body, ( just ask anyone head slapped by Deacon Jones ) 

 

What u need to watch is some of NFL networks top 10, The best runs or runs after the catch had that Mackey run I alluded to as 1 of the top ever,  You just cant believe how many defenders he knocked over and dragged as he just plowed ahead for a great gain ( dont remember if scored but think was finally  gang tackled ) truly showed off hisa power, strength and pure determination )  

 

Finally these old guys never had such conditioning machines nor so many positional coaches , nor nutiionalist who knew anything about fod and thre body as all was though wrong back then etc etc 

 

I will never forget and know i said this years ago Re Unitas that he was basically clotheslines across the head and blood gushed from his nose , today u immediately have a Dr at your side esp the QB , game stops as you are escorted off field after initial assessment if not carted , What happened with Unitas , Between plays Mackey stuffed mud up his nose to try and stop the bleeding, worked somewhat,Unitas still bleeding just marched downfield and threw a td - its not that the game has changed , its really a different game somewhere between old time tackle and the pro bowl for lack of an accurate comparison

1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

In a way I may be doing a disservice trying to rank Baltimore Colts properly to the old school fans. I never seen them live is why. I can rank the Top 25 Indianapolis Colts of all-time easily because I have seen them all live since 1984. Someone like Jimmy G or Bayone may look at my list as flawed because I wasn't watching Football back in the 50's or 60's and I don't blame them. They grew up with the Lenny Moore's and Unitas' etc..

 

also 1 must remember as you said you looked at stats , well  back then seasons were only 12 games long  so less touches for moore Vs James per year  and the sport was much tougher on ones body, ( just ask anyone head slapped by Deacon Jones ) 

 

What u need to watch is some of NFL networks top 10, The best runs or runs after the catch had that Mackey run I alluded to as 1 of the top ever,  You just cant believe how many defenders he knocked over and dragged as he just plowed ahead for a great gain ( dont remember if scored but think was finally  gang tackled ) truly showed off hisa power, strength and pure determination )  

 

Finally these old guys never had such conditioning machines nor so many positional coaches , nor nutiionalist who knew anything about fod and thre body as all was though wrong back then etc etc 

 

I will never forget and know i said this years ago Re Unitas that he was basically clotheslines across the head and blood gushed from his nose , today u immediately have a Dr at your side esp the QB , game stops as you are escorted off field after initial assessment if not carted , What happened with Unitas , Between plays Mackey stuffed mud up his nose to try and stop the bleeding, worked somewhat,Unitas still bleeding just marched downfield and threw a td - its not that the game has changed , its really a different game somewhere between old time tackle and the pro bowl for lack of an accurate comparison

[bayone]

sorry that was a quick double spasm before was able to pull hand away or would of been many more  and did this note lleffy

[jimmy g]

Lenny Moore was on the NFL's 50th Anniversary All NFL Team.

 

Other than Unitas (also 50th team), and Peyton, no Colt accomplished more in a Hall of Fame career. He's clearly number 3 and can't be left off. That 50th team honor may even move him around Peyton to number 2.

[2006Coltsbestever]

I am out of LIKES but I think what I will do, is rank the Top 25 Indianapolis Colts of all-time. Since they have moved here in 1984 by my Eye Test, Stats, wins, Dominance, Longevity, and Accolades.  I would feel better about doing that and it is based on 34 seasons of Football, so that is a huge sample size.

[bayone]

20 hours ago, Lucky Colts Fan said:

 

Same.  I have no problem ranking Indy Colts, and Peyton is #1 by the largest of margins in my book.  It's not fair for me to try and compare Unitas and Manning, or really any Baltimore players with any Indy players.  I'd put Marvin Harrison over any Baltimore Colt because I got to see what Marvin did every game, while a Baltimore Colt fan might put almost all Baltimore Colts over Harrison.

 

 

actually while i liken Unitas to Beery with Moore out of the backfield, to Peyton to Marvin with Faulk or James in the backfield  - call them triplets of old & new if u wish

 

and being old enough & raised on the Balt colts by big brother, & seeing how with a nod  from Johnny , Beery would know he changed the call & route based on film study that they did more than anyone back then  and that started the 2 minute drive to tie that 58 game

 

  YET  Marvin i would give the nod over beery-

 

Marvin wasn't the biggest , but what he could do with the ball in his hands before he got hurt ( & I still blame addai for running into his knee ) and the sheer brilliance of his double move and best of all the Marvelous hands that caught anything around him as he tipped the ball around dancing along sidelines till ball was secure before going out of bounds

 

( no catch will ever be the equal to me as the tip toe playing paddy cake with the ball in the endzone for that TD Vs the Pats while somehow staying in bounds long enough for ball to go back and forth , up & down hand to hand then secure, then both feet touch maybe an inch before sideline then just drop forward out of bounds with secured ball for TD )  ---- 

 

or simply diving on a bomb  parallel to the ground arms outstretched  & catching it fully stretched out was to much to ignore- the man caught what over 140 catches 1 year - if u take his shortened time playing and overlap with Rice he has better stats and has done things for more years in a row yardswise, TD wise catch wise over that span than anyone before or later with an = time period

[Defjamz26]

Should be Super Bowl era Colts only. How many people really saw Johnny Unitas in his prime?

[jimmy g]

4 hours ago, Defjamz26 said:

Should be Super Bowl era Colts only. How many people really saw Johnny Unitas in his prime?

I did. There are several of us on here. Plus, Johhny U was in Two Colt Super Bowls.

 

Would you leave Jim Brown off a list of Cleveland Browns? Montana off a list of Best 49ers? Unitas was THE QB for the 50th Anniversary Team.  How can Unitas have rated The Best in 50 year History, yet left off a list of Best Colts?

[jimmy g]

These discussions are why moving franchise need to change names and start fresh. Avoid guys who played s couple years bumping out HOF players whose numbers are retired.

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, jimmy g said:

These discussions are why moving franchise need to change names and start fresh. Avoid guys who played s couple years bumping out HOF players whose numbers are retired.

I am still out of LIKES, I got a few back and just re-used them on the Baseball Thread. I agree. That is why when I do my list of Colts greats here in a little while, I am just going to list my Top 25 Indianapolis Colts of all-time. Something I feel strongly about because I have seen all the players play since 1984.

[2006Coltsbestever]

My Top 25 Indianapolis Colts of all-time (since they moved to Indy in 1984). Revamped edition as of June 17th, 2018:

25. Pat McAfee P

24. Cato June LB

23. Ray Buchanon CB

22. TY Hilton WR

21. Tony Siragusa DT

20. Duane Bickett LB

19. Bill Brooks WR

18. Adam Vinatieri K

17. Gary Brackett LB

16. Jim Harbaugh QB

15. Andrew Luck QB

14. Ray Donaldson C

13. Dallas Clark TE

12. Tarik Glen OT

11. Bob Sanders SS

10. Marshall Faulk RB

9. Eric Dickerson RB

8. Jeff Saturday C

7. Edgerrin James RB

6. Chris Hinton OT/OG (the guy we got for John Elway ended up being our best O.Lineman of all-time LOL)

5. Robert Mathis DE/OLB

4. Reggie Wayne WR

3. Dwight Freeney DE/OLB

2. Marvin Harrison WR

1. Peyton Manning QB

 

-I did tons of research on about 50 different Indianapolis Colts players that have played here that were Good to Great. Looked at their Stats and remembered how they have played by my Eye Test and I came up with this list. I am sure some may disagree with my order but at that point we are just splitting hairs. The guys in BOLD are on our current Roster. I have Andrew at 15th which is fair IMO.

 

 

[jimmy g]

Colts have had over 1, 000 players on their roster since 84. If Cato June was our 24th best player/7th best defender in 34 years, i missed it.  Peyton Manning must've won by performing magic tricks!

[bayone]

6 hours ago, jimmy g said:

I did. There are several of us on here. Plus, Johhny U was in Two Colt Super Bowls.

 

Would you leave Jim Brown off a list of Cleveland Browns? Montana off a list of Best 49ers? Unitas was THE QB for the 50th Anniversary Team.  How can Unitas have rated The Best in 50 year History, yet left off a list of Best Colts?

 

lets face it won championship before the SB, started the 2 minute drill, 1 SB was hurt all season  and only came in game late to try and rescue it , stupid earl morrell though an excellent season didnt see the wide open receiver on a flee flicker for what would of been an easy TD and would of won the game

 

UNITAS WAS SIMPLY THE CLASS OF HIS TIMES & had the brains , film study and playmaking ability, together with confidence & toughness as detailed earlier  to play in any era

 

In 58 game inside the 12 or 11 he threw an outside pass , caught and went out of bounds near the 2 , only 3 points needed to win , when asked why chance an IT when a FG was enough he said its not taking chances when u know what u are doing

 

then lets ameche run it in again instead of a FG and a fumble was always possible

 

 

[bayone]

6 minutes ago, jimmy g said:

Colts have had over 1, 000 players on their roster since 84. If Cato June was our 24th best player/7th best defender in 34 years, i missed it.  Peyton Manning must've won by performing magic tricks!

 

Cato had 1 or 2 really goodf years with some true key plays made , but cant put him up there that high

[bayone]

2 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

My Top 25 Indianapolis Colts of all-time (since they moved to Indy in 1984). Revamped edition as of June 17th, 2018:

25. Pat McAfee P

24. Cato June LB

23. Ray Buchanon CB

22. TY Hilton WR

21. Tony Siragusa DT

20. Duane Bickett LB

19. Bill Brooks WR

18. Adam Vinatieri K

17. Gary Brackett LB

16. Jim Harbaugh QB

15. Andrew Luck QB

14. Ray Donaldson C

13. Dallas Clark TE

12. Tarik Glen OT

11. Bob Sanders SS

10. Marshall Faulk RB

9. Eric Dickerson RB

8. Jeff Saturday C

7. Edgerrin James RB

6. Chris Hinton OT/OG (the guy we got for John Elway ended up being our best O.Lineman of all-time LOL)

5. Robert Mathis DE/OLB

4. Reggie Wayne WR

3. Dwight Freeney DE/OLB

2. Marvin Harrison WR

1. Peyton Manning QB

 

-I did tons of research on about 50 different Indianapolis Colts players that have played here that were Good to Great. Looked at their Stats and remembered how they have played by my Eye Test and I came up with this list. I am sure some may disagree with my order but at that point we are just splitting hairs. The guys in BOLD are on our current Roster. I have Andrew at 15th which is fair IMO.

 

 

 

9 minutes ago, jimmy g said:

Colts have had over 1, 000 players on their roster since 84. If Cato June was our 24th best player/7th best defender in 34 years, i missed it.  Peyton Manning must've won by performing magic tricks!

 

Quck look at list and see on Cl.ark on it as only TE

 

u cant tell me either Pollard or Dilger who always caught the ball and when had contact backpeddled for 5 more yards arent better than cato june

 

To early in AM to evaluate list properly

[bayone]

22 hours ago, ColtsBlueFL said:

 

Why only 11?  Stampede Blue did 50 -

 

1) Peyton Manning
2) Johnny Unitas
3) Marvin Harrison
4) Raymond Berry
5) Gino Marchetti
6) John Mackey
7) Reggie Wayne
8) Edgerrin James
9) Dwight Freeney
10) Lenny Moore

 

11) Robert Mathis, DE
12) Art Donovan, OG *
13) Jim Parker, FB *
14) Jeff Saturday, OC
15) Bert Jones, QB *
16) Jim Harbaugh, QB
17) Alan Ameche, RB *
18) Adam Vinatieri, K
19) Tarik Glenn, OT
20) Gary Brackett, LB

 

21) Chris Hinton, OG
22) Bob Sanders, SS
23) Mike Curtis, LB-FB *
24) Bobby Vogel, OT *
25) Dallas Clark, TE
26) Ray Donaldson, OC
27) Rohn Stark, P
28) Mike Barnes, DE *
29) Gene Lipscomb, DT *
30) Bubba Smith, DE *

 

31) Bobby Boyd, DB *
32) Marshall Faulk, RB
33) Buddy Young, FB *
34) John Dutton, DT-DE *
35) Clarence Verdin, KR
36) Mike Vanderjagt, K
37) Rick Volk, DB *
38) George Konze, OT *
39) Bert Rechichar, DB, LB, RB *
40) Eric Dickerson, RB

 

41) Dick Szymanski, OC-LB *
42) Ted Hendricks, LB *
43) Jerry Logan, DB *
44) Willie Richardson, WR *
45) Antoine Bethea, FS
46) Fred Miller, DT *
47) Will Wolford, OT
48) Duane Bickett, LB

49) Tom Matte, RB *
50) Dominic Rhodes, RB

 

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2013/6/19/4444938/top-50-indianapolis-baltimore-colts-players-all-time

 

Now thats a list, filled with inclusive players from may an era, 1 may say the order can be changed somewhat but that would be a mute comment and relegated more to personal bias

 

on 1 of my earlier comments in this post i noted Bert Rechichar, DB, LB, RB , & mentioned he also had record NFL 56 yard FG for colts, and was a punt returner as needed ( had 100 yard punt return TD in college , and also was a wr as needed, know for faking out players to get fre in college) - man was Mr multi positional for the 1950's colts

[jimmy g]

Colts were in Baltimore 31 years. From 58- 71, the NFL mostly came down to Colts and Packers dominating. (And if there had been instant replay for FGs, Colts would have had one of the Packers Championships). Because of that, there are Numerous Colts in the Hall of Fame and Numbers retired.

 

Then they moved. Should've left the name and history behind.  After all, the Browns moved, and Jim Brown isnt considered a Baltimore Brown.  Baltimore had to start as the Ravens.

 

Two different eras now. Cant really compare athletes from 1959 to those of today. It's like comparing a 1959 F104 fighter to today's F22 Raptor.

 

Colts have been in Indy 34 years. They went to the playoffs in 87, and almost to the Super Bowl in 95. Colts were a Dominant team, winning Divisions and a Super Bowl  from 2002- 2010. You would think we've had as many players recognized here as in Baltimore, but we haven't.   So, to insist on a COMBINED Top 10 List, I'd say to only accept those (at a Minimum) who have been honored on the Ring of Honor, Hall of Fame, or number retired...  if Mike Curtis isnt good enough to make it, how can Bob Sanders be considered???

 

[NewEra]

On 6/15/2018 at 2:55 PM, Coffeedrinker said:

I agree Mathis would be on my list of Top Colts.

 

Sanders... as great of a player he was and as fun as he was to watch, he played in 48 out of a possible 112 games and never played an entire season.  There is no way I could vote a guy as one of the best in a franchise when he missed more than 50% of his games.

I agree and the Hitman was one of my fav players of all time. He reminds me of myself a lot. Same size, I'm a lot slower lol. But the going all out part to the point of injury lol. I'm a competitive lifter

[bayone]

10 minutes ago, jimmy g said:

Colts were in Baltimore 31 years. From 58- 71, the NFL mostly came down to Colts and Packers dominating. (And if there had been instant replay for FGs, Colts would have had one of the Packers Championships). Because of that, there are Numerous Colts in the Hall of Fame and Numbers retired.

 

Then they moved. Should've left the name and history behind.  After all, the Browns moved, and Jim Brown isnt considered a Baltimore Brown.  Baltimore had to start as the Ravens.

 

Two different eras now. Cant really compare athletes from 1959 to those of today. It's like comparing a 1959 F104 fighter to today's F22 Raptor.

 

Colts have been in Indy 34 years. They went to the playoffs in 87, and almost to the Super Bowl in 95. Colts were a Dominant team, winning Divisions and a Super Bowl  from 2002- 2010. You would think we've had as many players recognized here as in Baltimore, but we haven't.   So, to insist on a COMBINED Top 10 List, I'd say to only accept those (at a Minimum) who have been honored on the Ring of Honor, Hall of Fame, or number retired...  if Mike Curtis isnt good enough to make it, how can Bob Sanders be considered???

 

 

only comment , yes its true moistly colts Vs Packers ( what a team besides Lombardi & Bart Star  What a backfield, may be best 1-2 punch in g history )  , but would throw in the Browns occasionally as Jim Brown led team and wont even mention shut out score in losing to them in national championship

 

YES  mike curtis was devastating player for our defense

 

sanders there due to becoming the eraser when needed for playoff & SB run, otherwise to hurt and stayed on team for hope of getting healthy

[superrep1967]

On 6/14/2018 at 9:54 AM, Caleb3502 said:

NFL.com is breaking down the top 10 players from each franchise by division.  Yesterday was the AFC South.  Here's their list of their top 10 Baltimore/Indianapolis Colts.  

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000937048/article/alltime-xi-afc-south-no-2-slot-for-peyton-manning-jj-watt

 

1) Johnny Unitas, QB (1956-1972)
2) Peyton Manning, QB (1998-2011)
3) Marvin Harrison, WR (1996-2008)
4) Raymond Berry, WR (1955-1967)
5) Gino Marchetti, DE (1953-1966)
6) Reggie Wayne, WR (2001-2014)
7) John Mackey, TE (1963-1971)
8) Dwight Freeney, DE (2002-2012)
9) Edgerrin James, RB (1999-2005)
10) Lenny Moore, RB (1956-1967)
11) Art Donovan, DT (1950, 1953-1961)
Coach: Tony Dungy (2002-2008)

Peyton Manning by far is number one and it’s not even close and Mathis should be on the list he’s the Colts all time sack leader. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

3 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

My Top 25 Indianapolis Colts of all-time (since they moved to Indy in 1984). Revamped edition as of June 17th, 2018:

25. Pat McAfee P

24. Cato June LB

23. Ray Buchanon CB

22. TY Hilton WR

21. Tony Siragusa DT

20. Duane Bickett LB

19. Bill Brooks WR

18. Adam Vinatieri K

17. Gary Brackett LB

16. Jim Harbaugh QB

15. Andrew Luck QB

14. Ray Donaldson C

13. Dallas Clark TE

12. Tarik Glen OT

11. Bob Sanders SS

10. Marshall Faulk RB

9. Eric Dickerson RB

8. Jeff Saturday C

7. Edgerrin James RB

6. Chris Hinton OT/OG (the guy we got for John Elway ended up being our best O.Lineman of all-time LOL)

5. Robert Mathis DE/OLB

4. Reggie Wayne WR

3. Dwight Freeney DE/OLB

2. Marvin Harrison WR

1. Peyton Manning QB

 

-I did tons of research on about 50 different Indianapolis Colts players that have played here that were Good to Great. Looked at their Stats and remembered how they have played by my Eye Test and I came up with this list. I am sure some may disagree with my order but at that point we are just splitting hairs. The guys in BOLD are on our current Roster. I have Andrew at 15th which is fair IMO.

 

 

Been reading some of the comments and if Cato June is really the only complaint I did my job well, LOL, Cato June had 10 INT's and 2 TD's from 2004-2006 and was a Great playmaker at the LB position in those 3 years and was a key component on our 2006 Championship team. He was super fast and Great in coverage. Marcus Pollard was considered but I just had to leave some players off. 25 is a pretty decent size list though. I actually went over about 500 players, then narrowed it down to 50 out of those 500. Once I got to 50 it got real tough actually. 

 

-On Bleacher's Report Top 25 Indianapolis Colts list which was done in May of 2013, Cato June was ranked 23rd. 

[bayone]

1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Been reading some of the comments and if Cato June is really the only complaint I did my job well, LOL, Cato June had 10 INT's and 2 TD's from 2004-2006 and was a Great playmaker at the LB position in those 3 years and was a key component on our 2006 Championship team. He was super fast and Great in coverage. Marcus Pollard was considered but I just had to leave some players off. 25 is a pretty decent size list though. I actually went over about 500 players, then narrowed it down to 50 out of those 500. Once I got to 50 it got real tough actually. 

 

1 complaint surely aint bad interesting stampeded blue  top 50 left him out but do agree with 1 complaint is nothing, never said was bad list=- & top 50 include both Balt & Indy teams

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, bayone said:

 

1 complaint surely aint bad interesting stampeded blue  top 50 left him out but do agree with 1 complaint is nothing, never said was bad list=- & top 50 include both Balt & Indy teams

No I was hoping to get feed back, good or bad. That is one reason why I made my lIst. I left off maybe a few players I could've put on there and probably have a couple that some don't think belong, not many though . The Stampede Blue list listed 50 players and how did they leave Billy Brooks off? Tony Siragusa off? Siragusa dominated his position, Brooks was a Very Good WR that played with Bad QB's and he still produced. They didn't have Ray Buchanon on their list either? Ray had 3 TD's alone in one season = 1994. I do realize they had both Baltimore and Indy Colts but the guys I just mentioned still should be Top 50 and so should June, JMO.

[bayone]

53 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

No I was hoping to get feed back, good or bad. That is one reason why I made my lIst. I left off maybe a few players I could've put on there and probably have a couple that some don't think belong, not many though . The Stampede Blue list listed 50 players and how did they leave Billy Brooks off? Tony Siragusa off? Siragusa dominated his position, Brooks was a Very Good WR that played with Bad QB's and he still produced. They didn't have Ray Buchanon on their list either? Ray had 3 TD's alone in one season = 1994. I do realize they had both Baltimore and Indy Colts but the guys I just mentioned still should be Top 50 and so should June, JMO.

Siragusa  was a monster in middle of the d line who ate up double teams, eventualy  left in free agency as had many isssues with management like Bill Tobin, Way Marchbroda was treated ,  & his successor coach Gelindo "Lindy" Infante 

 

the good thing on losing him , defense really fell apart and help get few losing seasons and then we got PEYTON - lots of ways to think about how things play out

 

spent to much valuable home PT time and must stop now both threads and also the status posts been getting 

 

To bad i am not 1 to make a comment and never reply again when others reply to mine, but the never ending loop which may seem trivial time wise to most is of utmost value to me

 

Weeks starts and back to Dr at 8 am tomorrow then throughout week and weeks to come

take care my friend and best to all here and to colts season

[2006Coltsbestever]

44 minutes ago, bayone said:

Siragusa  was a monster in middle of the d line who ate up double teams, eventualy  left in free agency as had many isssues with management like Bill Tobin, Way Marchbroda was treated ,  & his successor coach Gelindo "Lindy" Infante 

 

the good thing on losing him , defense really fell apart and help get few losing seasons and then we got PEYTON - lots of ways to think about how things play out

 

spent to much valuable home PT time and must stop now both threads and also the status posts been getting 

 

To bad i am not 1 to make a comment and never reply again when others reply to mine, but the never ending loop which may seem trivial time wise to most is of utmost value to me

 

Weeks starts and back to Dr at 8 am tomorrow then throughout week and weeks to come

take care my friend and best to all here and to colts season

Take care Barry, glad you are back Posting.

[LockeDown]

I grew up a Baltimore Colt fan.  I've seen both Unitas and Manning.  They are the 2 greatest QBs and possibly  players in the history of the league as far as I’m concerned.  The contemporary player from Indy that blows me away was Marvin Harrison.  Route running, speed, hands and competitive spirit.  What a fantastic player in any era.

[2006Coltsbestever]

17 minutes ago, LockeDown said:

I grew up a Baltimore Colt fan.  I've seen both Unitas and Manning.  They are the 2 greatest QBs and possibly  players in the history of the league as far as I’m concerned.  The contemporary player from Indy that blows me away was Marvin Harrison.  Route running, speed, hands and competitive spirit.  What a fantastic player in any era.

Yeah I agree with this 100%, I never seen Unitas live but have seen video, old game films on him, and his Stats were way ahead of his time. I think a unanimous Top 3 would be Peyton 1, Unitas 2, and Harrison 3. To me Dwight Freeney should be #4 when you combine both Balt and Indy players because in his prime he was our best Pass Rusher of all-time, so quick and athletic as well. His importance showed in SB 44 when he missed the 2nd Half and when he missed the 2007 Playoffs. 

[Dark Superman]

Andrew Luck will go down as #1 when it's all said and over.

[2006Coltsbestever]

11 hours ago, Savage said:

Andrew Luck will go down as #1 when it's all said and over.

I think Top 5 is possible, Top 10 very possible. When I combined both Balt and Indy players my Top 5 was:

1. Peyton QB

2. Unitas QB

3. Harrison WR

4. Freeney DE

5. Wayne WR with Gino Marchetti DE right there with Wayne

-That is a Hall of Fame Top 6 (6 great players in total) and all have won SB Rings/ and or Championships. It will take a while for Wayne to get in because Writers seem to be strict when it comes to WR's. I see Freeney making the HOFame on his 2nd ballot. Probably not 1st but 2nd. 

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On 6/14/2018 at 12:20 PM, Four2itus said:

Not sure I would put Edge over Mathis. He was only here 6 years. 

Edge has superior years here in the rushing and receiving game. When he hurt his knee in KC that hurt his career but his numbers are Hall of Fame worthy