oldunclemark Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 The best thing this last week was not to hear from Peyton Manning in the newspaper or on TV or on radio.......In most negotiations...that means something is cooking.....but the NFL Network and ESPN return to Indianapolis this week for the combine.......so expect a new rash of 'insider' scoops... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltsarerich Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 I'd agree with this, I'm sick of him too.But really no player negootiates anything, really, save for like who they have to stand naked next to on a day to day basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted February 20, 2012 Author Share Posted February 20, 2012 I'd agree with this, I'm sick of him too.But really no player negootiates anything, really, save for like who they have to stand naked next to on a day to day basis.I think there's a lot beyond money.....I would guess...Irsay wants assurances that Manning is healthy and that he'll assist in the developement of Luck...(allowing the new kid reps in practice..things like that)Manning isnt interested in his money so much (remember, he banked $26 mil last year) as he probably wants Saturday, Wayne and Garcon to return....so the offense can go back to the 28 ppg. days...That's the juggling I'd guess they're doing...in the accounting office... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21isSuperman Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 I wish both sides would stop talking to the media. I don't like how Irsay keeps saying stuff to the media and having the media twist his words and all that. Get together with Peyton and figure it out. Then report it to the media when it's all over. With that said, Irsay owns the team and can run it how he sees best fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramblinwreck7 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 I wish both sides would stop talking to the media. I don't like how Irsay keeps saying stuff to the media and having the media twist his words and all that. Get together with Peyton and figure it out. Then report it to the media when it's all over. With that said, Irsay owns the team and can run it how he sees best fit.And think of all the haters who hated on Bill Polian...Instead of hearing Irsay talking to the media and all of their speculation, we would hear them complain about how the colts don't release any information, and Polian would love it lol. I would love it too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted February 20, 2012 Author Share Posted February 20, 2012 And think of all the haters who hated on Bill Polian...Instead of hearing Irsay talking to the media and all of their speculation, we would hear them complain about how the colts don't release any information, and Polian would love it lol. I would love it too Good point..wreck... Dont think he's not getting a laugh out of this.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton and Eli fan Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 I wish both sides would stop talking to the media. I don't like how Irsay keeps saying stuff to the media and having the media twist his words and all that. Get together with Peyton and figure it out. Then report it to the media when it's all over. With that said, Irsay owns the team and can run it how he sees best fit.Haven't heard boo from Peyton. I'm surprised too, because I thought they'd release something after the article about the 4th surgery came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husker61 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 I wish both sides would stop talking to the media. I don't like how Irsay keeps saying stuff to the media and having the media twist his words and all that. Get together with Peyton and figure it out. Then report it to the media when it's all over. With that said, Irsay owns the team and can run it how he sees best fit.i agree. when owners start getting this involved in things, it's usually not a good thing for any sports team. they should sit back, sign and the checks, and let the football people that they hired make the football decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eli4625 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 At this point what does it matter? Peyton is moving on to another team and the Colts are moving to a new era..embrace the change and relax... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subvet Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 ....so expect a new rash of 'insider' scoops...Yeah, I wonder why we haven't heard from Rob Lowe recently??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 Yeah, I wonder why we haven't heard from Rob Lowe recently???he's laying LOWE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman818 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Wait for It! It's coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzer40 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 To draw the conclusion that a "deal is near" is really grasping for straws IMO.Let me add, that if a media source came and reported that "all quiet on the Manning front means the Colts and Manning have decided to part ways", people including you(Oldunclemark) would be throwing a conniption fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jskinnz Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 To draw the conclusion that a "deal is near" is really grasping for straws IMO.Let me add, that if a media source came and reported that "all quiet on the Manning front means the Colts and Manning have decided to part ways", people including you(Oldunclemark) would be throwing a conniption fit.Agree with you. The notion that all is quiet in Manning camp means that a deal is near is absolutely hysterical. This is a done deal. We are in the very last days of Manning on the Colts roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peytonfan0456 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 First and foremost, it's always about money and both sides will use the media to sway public opinion in their favor as much as they can. That makes it more often than not difficult to read between the lines to find a fragment of the truth. I suspect we , as Colts fans will be having alot thrown at us in the next few weeks. AS far as Peyton leaving or retiring with the respect of the franchise and dignity, this issue has already been decided by IRSAY, PEYTON and the MEDIA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeyes Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Sure, but just this morning my sources told me he would be back. Who are my sources? Well I stood atop the stairs and dropped a ball - it bounced 18x - has to be an omen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 Agree with you. The notion that all is quiet in Manning camp means that a deal is near is absolutely hysterical. This is a done deal. We are in the very last days of Manning on the Colts roster.Please dont bet anything of value on that.....Dr. 'J'The only Done Deal this year was Adam Dunn signing with the White SoxDeals are made when both parties take the talks out of the public eye...as I'm sure you knowIf Irsay wished to cut ties with Manning it would have been done by now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jskinnz Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Please dont bet anything of value on that.....Dr. 'J'The only Done Deal this year was Adam Dunn signing with the White SoxDeals are made when both parties take the talks out of the public eye...as I'm sure you knowIf Irsay wished to cut ties with Manning it would have been done by now...If Manning was to be the Colts QB next year, can you rationally explain why neither Grigson or Pagano have yet to see him throw? That is the latest in a very long list of obvious things you have missed that should clue you in to Manning's fate in Indy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restored Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 If Manning was to be the Colts QB next year, can you rationally explain why neither Grigson or Pagano have yet to see him throw? That is the latest in a very long list of obvious things you have missed that should clue you in to Manning's fate in Indy.Because they have both been extremely busy with all the other issues we have with this team? Manning isn't always throwing in Indy either so its hard for them to sync up schedules. Its not their choice anyway. Irsay has the call here as Grigson said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireJimCaldwell Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 If Manning was to be the Colts QB next year, can you rationally explain why neither Grigson or Pagano have yet to see him throw? That is the latest in a very long list of obvious things you have missed that should clue you in to Manning's fate in Indy.This fact makes zero sense. It would be different if they were each hired Tuesday. The fact that they haven't seen him throw suggests that he hasn't worked out at the Colts facility in quite some time. Irsay made his choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 If Manning was to be the Colts QB next year, can you rationally explain why neither Grigson or Pagano have yet to see him throw? That is the latest in a very long list of obvious things you have missed that should clue you in to Manning's fate in Indy.Allow me to repeat the key sentences..1. "Please dont bet anything of value on that" (I dont want you to end up as broke as TO)2. "If Irsay wished to cut ties with Manning, it would have been done by now." (the Super Bowl was 3 weeks ago) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheartcolt Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 'The Less You Hear from Manning, The Better', cries the OP. Then we continue to shout about it. Sorry, I found that quite amusing. No disrespect meant btw. Sort of tickled me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 'The Less You Hear from Manning, The Better', cries the OP. Then we continue to shout about it. Sorry, I found that quite amusing. No disrespect meant btw. Sort of tickled me.we talk about it but come on.........With all due respect....but we're not exactly ABC here....We're 20 jamokes talking about a 2-14 team in February... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireJimCaldwell Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I hope some of you get rich, become famous and get your own sunglasses line, so I can wear them to being to try to see the world through those lenses.Purely amazing at how distorted some are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheartcolt Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 we talk about it but come on.........With all due respect....but we're not exactly ABC here....We're 20 jamokes talking about a 2-14 team in February...It was the irony Mark.......ignore me, I'm easily amused!PS - Jamokes. Had to look that one up. Is that a well known American phrase? I'll bring it into the UK if it is!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jskinnz Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Because they have both been extremely busy with all the other issues we have with this team? Manning isn't always throwing in Indy either so its hard for them to sync up schedules. Its not their choice anyway. Irsay has the call here as Grigson said.Keep telling yourself that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jskinnz Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Allow me to repeat the key sentences..1. "Please dont bet anything of value on that" (I dont want you to end up as broke as TO)2. "If Irsay wished to cut ties with Manning, it would have been done by now." (the Super Bowl was 3 weeks ago)And you avoided my question. Please rationally explain (in other words not the normal stuff you try to throw against the wall) why the GM and Head Coach has yet to personally see Manning throwing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 I hope some of you get rich, become famous and get your own sunglasses line, so I can wear them to being to try to see the world through those lenses.Purely amazing at how distorted some are.You repeatedly ask us to read the signs...Peyton's silence....Coach wants Saturday back...Pretty clear signs...even for those of us with those bad glasses...you speak of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 And you avoided my question. Please rationally explain (in other words not the normal stuff you try to throw against the wall) why the GM and Head Coach has yet to personally see Manning throwing.I do not know..But we have been told by Grigson that Irsay is making this decision...Why is the fact that Grigson hasnt seen Manning throw relevant?maybe they arent in the same place at the same time..what does it say to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jskinnz Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I do not know..But we have been told by Grigson that Irsay is making this decision...Why is the fact that Grigson hasnt seen Manning throw relevant?maybe they arent in the same place at the same time..what does it say to you?Seriously Mark. Open your freaking eyes. You crack me up. You really need to ask me what it means?If Maning was under any consideration to be the Colts 2012 QB, don't you find it reasonable to think that either Pagano & Grigson would have been at at least one of the his throwing sessions to see what they got in hm? I mean there is sticking your head in the sand and then there is what you are doing with this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 Seriously Mark. Open your freaking eyes. You crack me up. You really need to ask me what it means?If Maning was under any consideration to be the Colts 2012 QB, don't you find it reasonable to think that either Pagano & Grigson would have been at at least one of the his throwing sessions to see what they got in hm? I mean there is sticking your head in the sand and then there is what you are doing with this situation.Tough day 'J' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 "J' why are you so invested in being right here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jskinnz Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 "J' why are you so invested in being right here?Why are you so invested in being wrong?And BTW, I have said this repeatedbly - I have spent so much of our expendible cash on the Colts in the last decade in large part because of Manning. I have no joy in thinking of the team without him as we go into the next season. But all signs, each and every one of them point to him being gone. And for the right reasons. It would be better for you if you realized this before he is actually cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanFromtheWasteland Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I hope some of you get rich, become famous and get your own sunglasses line, so I can wear them to being to try to see the world through those lenses.Purely amazing at how distorted some are. OMG! ONLY 19.99! Not sold in stores. "These glasses are AMAZING!!! Just like seeing in HD" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireJimCaldwell Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 OMG! ONLY 19.99! Not sold in stores. "These glasses are AMAZING!!! Just like seeing in HD"Blublockers might get some competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakai432 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 OMG! ONLY 19.99! Not sold in stores. "These glasses are AMAZING!!! Just like seeing in HD"Lol, not those horrible HD vision glasses that probably don't work!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eli4625 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Just wondering why do people get so worked up about what the media is reporting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruksak Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Just wondering why do people get so worked up about what the media is reporting?We all live empty, meaningless lives and our only source of self-validation comes from pandering to rumors about the failures of men that are far more successful than we could ever hope to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted February 25, 2012 Author Share Posted February 25, 2012 We all live empty, meaningless lives and our only source of self-validation comes from pandering to rumors about the failures of men that are far more successful than we could ever hope to be.very esoteric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanFromtheWasteland Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 We all live empty, meaningless lives and our only source of self-validation comes from pandering to rumors about the failures of men that are far more successful than we could ever hope to be.Hence the popularity of " reality tv " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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