Christian McCaffrey

[LJpalmbeacher2]

53 minutes ago, ColtsUrUs said:

Funny when I see people saying we can pick up a RB in the later rounds. LOL how has that been working for us?

 

Sometimes I like to say as a sarcastic remark lol.

[NewColtsFan]

3 hours ago, ColtsUrUs said:

Funny when I see people saying we can pick up a RB in the later rounds. LOL how has that been working for us?

 

 

All those other backs that we picked up in the 6th or 7th rounds were not thought to be the future STARTING running back for the Colts.       We drafted these guys to be our 3rd or 4th down back.    3rd down specialists...   guys who might contribute on special teams.     They were not viewed as future difference makers.

 

We're comparing apples and oranges here....       we should be able to get a starter in the 4th round out of this draft....

 

[chad72]

On 2/16/2017 at 9:38 PM, NewColtsFan said:

 

As the Stanford guy who has seen every game McCaffrey has played,  I would've been fine drafting McCaffrey in the 2nd round if we already had our lead back of the future.       But we don't.

 

I'm not sure I see McCaffrey has a traditional 3-down back.     He can play every down,  but he might not do the things a traditional 3-down back can do.      So, instead of carrying the ball 16-20 times a game,  CMac is likely more of a 12-15 carry guy.      But he might also catch 3-5 passes a game and return kicks as well.     He can impact games in a variety of ways.     Not every RB can do that.

 

But our needs on defense far outweigh our needs on offense,  and since the strength of this draft is defense,  then I want to use our first 3 picks on defense.      Drafting an offensive player is a luxury we can't afford.     If we don't make a commitment to defense now,  I'm not sure when we ever will?     The time is now.   And we don't have to reach.    The players we need are there in this draft.

 

It's going to hurt watching the top backs go off the board to other teams.    But we need defense.    We have to have defense.      If you think our defense was bad this year,  wait till you see how bad it is next year if we don't commit to it.      The time is NOW.

 

 

 

 

^^^This, only repeated 100 times.  

 

Ultimately, a 3-down pass rusher, middle linebacker or even a talented secondary player would do more wonders for the W-L record of this team than an RB when it is all said and done against the elite teams.

 

Your elite QB will make even 2nd and 3rd round RBs look better than they are but he cannot get any margin for error until you give him that play making D. 

[NewColtsFan]

1 hour ago, chad72 said:

 

^^^This, only repeated 100 times.  

 

Ultimately, a 3-down pass rusher, middle linebacker or even a talented secondary player would do more wonders for the W-L record of this team than an RB when it is all said and done against the elite teams.

 

Your elite QB will make even 2nd and 3rd round RBs look better than they are but he cannot get any margin for error until you give him that play making D. 

Of course, as we're discussing this,  I'm reading that CMac pretty much KILLED IT today in the skills drills...   roughly top-5 in every event,  plus his 3 cone shuttle was the 2nd fastest in the last 15 years!

 

Christian did very, very well.     I don't know how much the Colts love him or not,  but he's going to help some team....    and maybe eve a lot.      He's a fun guy to watch.....

 

[Freeupfreeney]

This dude is a first rounder. He made some dumb comments that dropped his status. Nobody wants  race debate in the nfl. 

 

The reporters already trued to trap him, and its only a matter of time before some idot sports writer brings it up again. Maybe they won't. But if they do, they gonna push him out to day 3 of the draft. 

 

Here's hoping they find something better to talk about, and mccaffrey can be a bit more humble and dodge those questions. Then he should be there for us round 2. Unless the other NFL teams are smart enough to see he can be a workhourse amungt all other things and swoop him up on hope. 

 

But I'd only take him round 2 if we can trade down and pick up an extra second. We need to go edge and will and de only the first 2 picks. 

[Smoke317]

I think CMac got a chance to be something very special. I think you're looking at an athlete that can be used all over the field.  Like a Swiss Army knife.   Imagine the mismatches you're looking at when you go empty on 3rd down with him lined up at RB. I also think he can be good enough to immediately become a Julian Edelman type receiver if used properly.  Catches and yac. With game breaking, take it to the house ability.  

 

To be honest I'd rather us take him at 15 or trade back and get him later over letting him go to the Patriots. Because if he goes to New England, Brady will be playing 3-4 more years and trying to put two more titles on his resume with this kid. McDaniels and Brady will kill the league with this kid.  

 

So I say trade back a few places and draft CMac and stack an extra pick that can be used for our defense.  Used this kid in a timeshare with Gore or Turbin or whomever. Let this kid get 10 carries and at least 10 targets either out the backfield or as a wideout and we should have a top 3 offense next year and be a playoff team.  Add a few solid pieces on D later in the draft and through free agency  and we could really threaten.

 

And if not, then fire Chuck and Get McDaniels in here and let's get this dynasty up and running. To start our dynasty, we've got to end their dynasty. What better way than to steal their OC (some believe potential successor to BB) & a player you know he'd use to really dominate?  We missed out on getting Josh McDaniels this offseason, don't compound that by missing out on this kid too. We'll get the coach next year. 

[NewColtsFan]

14 minutes ago, Freeupfreeney said:

This dude is a first rounder. He made some dumb comments that dropped his status. Nobody wants  race debate in the nfl. 

 

The reporters already trued to trap him, and its only a matter of time before some idot sports writer brings it up again. Maybe they won't. But if they do, they gonna push him out to day 3 of the draft. 

 

Here's hoping they find something better to talk about, and mccaffrey can be a bit more humble and dodge those questions. Then he should be there for us round 2. Unless the other NFL teams are smart enough to see he can be a workhourse amungt all other things and swoop him up on hope. 

 

But I'd only take him round 2 if we can trade down and pick up an extra second. We need to go edge and will and de only the first 2 picks. 

 

Huh?!?

 

What dumb comments did Christian make and how do you know it dropped his status?     Where did you learn that?

[Gigc]

I'll tell you one guy who loves him --- Marshall Faulk. He has absolutely gushed about McCaffrey. And if anybody should know running backs, it's Marshall. 

I think he could be great for us. Not only that, he's like picking two players in one. he can carry the ball and be split out in the slot. 

[LJpalmbeacher2]

Did you see the peice Schefter did on CMac?

 

He wanted to do more Bench Presses than him, 10.

And while doing the presses was saying his name and his dad's (ed).

He did 11, one more than cmac...........

 

But the weights were only a prop. Hilarious

[oldunclemark]

On ‎2‎/‎13‎/‎2017 at 8:20 AM, MightyLucks said:

He won't get past the pats. 

He wont get past the Broncos..unless we take him to play with Andrew

[oldunclemark]

Even if we don't want McCaffrey  (and we should) I'd take him and deal him to Denver for their No.1 and a  No 3.

..To me, he can back up Frank Gore for a year. Split out in the slot. Run back kicks.

...He seems to catch everything

...somebody's linebacker or 3rd or 4th best CB has to cover him.  Tough assignment

 

we can (and will) address defense in free agency.

 

[Smonroe]

8 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

Huh?!?

 

What dumb comments did Christian make and how do you know it dropped his status?     Where did you learn that?

 

Only positives with this kid.  Maybe he's talking about when CM said he felt disrespected.   But I think he was referring to his size, not race.  

 

He's a guy we'd all love to have, but not at our first pick.  And he'll be gone before our second.  

[a06cc]

I'm going to say pass on him. He can't block and doesn't have a great twitch for movement. His ability to not be able to block alone is something we can't afford. 

[Freeupfreeney]

1 minute ago, a06cc said:

I'm going to say pass on him. He can't block and doesn't have a great twitch for movement. His ability to not be able to block alone is something we can't afford. 

I have to watch some more tape on him

 But I'm willing to bet that people are assumingn he CANT block when the reality is he's probably a half decent blocker at The worst at his position. 

 

Remember, you don't have to blow people up at rb. You just have to be an obsticle. 

 

 

[Freeupfreeney]

13 minutes ago, Smonroe said:

 

Only positives with this kid.  Maybe he's talking about when CM said he felt disrespected.   But I think he was referring to his size, not race.  

 

He's a guy we'd all love to have, but not at our first pick.  And he'll be gone before our second.  

Naw, I'm not gonna repeat it. But he said something pretty dumb, and it was race related. I'm glad people inhere havent heard it, but it would be msnbc, fox news worthy (not traditional media worth, but we don't have a traditional media anymore) if somebody pressed it. 

Don't worry bout it lol

[NewColtsFan]

25 minutes ago, Smonroe said:

 

Only positives with this kid.  Maybe he's talking about when CM said he felt disrespected.   But I think he was referring to his size, not race.  

 

He's a guy we'd all love to have, but not at our first pick.  And he'll be gone before our second.  

 

Thanks....     I thought he was talking about the disrespected comment as well.

 

I take no offense at anyone who is not a Christian fan.      I get the reasons.    And Christian did NOT endear himself to the Stanford community by not playing in the Sun Bowl.      That was a stunning decision.     I thought it was a belated April Fool's joke.

 

But he killed it yesterday....    good for him.     Doesn't mean he'll get taken in the 1st round --- I'm not sure.    But I don't see him falling to the Colts when we pick.      He might fall that far,  but I'd be surprised.

 

[Yoshinator]

3 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

Thanks....     I thought he was talking about the disrespected comment as well.

 

I take no offense at anyone who is not a Christian fan.      I get the reasons.    And Christian did NOT endear himself to the Stanford community by not playing in the Sun Bowl.      That was a stunning decision.     I thought it was a belated April Fool's joke.

 

But he killed it yesterday....    good for him.     Doesn't mean he'll get taken in the 1st round --- I'm not sure.    But I don't see him falling to the Colts when we pick.      He might fall that far,  but I'd be surprised.

 

I would be shocked if he goes before us. I would also be very happy as it would allow a defensive player to fall to us. We could use him as leverage to trade down with Denver and acquire a 2nd round pick (even though 5 picks isn't worth that, a franchise RB might persuade them to do so).

[Shive]

20 minutes ago, Freeupfreeney said:

Naw, I'm not gonna repeat it. But he said something pretty dumb, and it was race related. I'm glad people inhere havent heard it, but it would be msnbc, fox news worthy (not traditional media worth, but we don't have a traditional media anymore) if somebody pressed it. 

Don't worry bout it lol

“I feel like a lot of people don't give me credit for my skills and talents. That's just the way it is. I don't think there's anyone else that can do all the things I can as far as running between the tackles, outside pass protect, play X, Z, slot and do a lot of things in the return game as well. I think that's what sets me apart.”

 

The knocks on him are generally about his size. I saw no racial statement in there at all. Some race-baiting "journalists" may have taken those comments to mean it, but unless CM says "I feel like I'm disrespected because I'm a white RB", I don't see an issue. His size and his college workload (I believe about 200 more touches than any other RB in this draft) are the major concerns.

[chad72]

If he gets past the Giants and Broncos, like I said before, a team that is RB hungry will jump right in front of the Packers to trade with the team that does not need an RB whatsoever, the Cowboys. If he is there at the Packers' position, that Packers offense and Mike McCarthy's creative scheming will take every advantage of his strengths. That is the last spot in the first round that he will ever make it to and no way beyond that. He would be deadly in the Packers' offense, more deadly than the Patriots' offense mainly because of the many mouths to feed in the Patriots' offense and the shortage of talent at the RB/TE position for the Packers. Plus, that Packers' QB is no slouch either.  

 

If he does go the Giants, props to @twfish for drafting in our mock draft Round 1 for the Giants.  

[Shive]

40 minutes ago, chad72 said:

If he gets past the Giants and Broncos, like I said before, a team that is RB hungry will jump right in front of the Packers to trade with the team that does not need an RB whatsoever, the Cowboys. If he is there at the Packers' position, that Packers offense and Mike McCarthy's creative scheming will take every advantage of his strengths. That is the last spot in the first round that he will ever make it to and no way beyond that. He would be deadly in the Packers' offense, more deadly than the Patriots' offense mainly because of the many mouths to feed in the Patriots' offense and the shortage of talent at the RB/TE position for the Packers. Plus, that Packers' QB is no slouch either.  

 

If he does go the Giants, props to @twfish for drafting in our mock draft Round 1 for the Giants.  

I don't see Denver drafting him, having drafted Devontae Booker last year, who looked pretty good as a rookie RB. The Giants have the need, but I don't see him being a fit in the offense. You're spot on about the Packers. They used Montgomery well as a RB/WR to fill their void at RB and McCaffrey could be used the same way. That offense would be even more potent and scary.

[oldunclemark]

17 minutes ago, Shive said:

I don't see Denver drafting him, having drafted Devontae Booker last year, who looked pretty good as a rookie RB. The Giants have the need, but I don't see him being a fit in the offense. You're spot on about the Packers. They used Montgomery well as a RB/WR to fill their void at RB and McCaffrey could be used the same way. That offense would be even more potent and scary.

There is almost no question Denver will draft him.

They're looking at free agency to fix their O-line....they were disappointed in Booker and McCaffrey is a multi position guy.

Denver's kick returners were down dog poor and Kubiak didn't use a slot receiver where Mike McCoy (the new OC) will.. John Elway has known him since he was born.

 

There is almost no chance Denver passes on him..In fact, they might move up a few spots to get him

[tvturner]

1 hour ago, Freeupfreeney said:

Naw, I'm not gonna repeat it. But he said something pretty dumb, and it was race related. I'm glad people inhere havent heard it, but it would be msnbc, fox news worthy (not traditional media worth, but we don't have a traditional media anymore) if somebody pressed it. 

Don't worry bout it lol

He never said anything 'dumb' in his interview. I seriously don't know where you get your information, plus where you get your info for your 'fantastic' scouting jobs....

[Freeupfreeney]

10 minutes ago, Boomstick1 said:

He never said anything 'dumb' in his interview. I seriously don't know where you get your information, plus where you get your info for your 'fantastic' scouting jobs....

 

Look dude, its not my fault you don't know anything.

 

He said about 3 months ago "I feel like im overlooked because i'm white"

 

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/05/20/stephen-a-on-stanfords-mccaffrey-feeling-overlooked-for-being-a-white-rb-welcome-to-our-world/

 

Dude, stop instulting me because you are unaware of things, and jumping on me because others do and do  you own research.

 

this could come up in the future...which is why I didn't want to say anything, but i'm getting sick of comments like yours.

 

I KNOW what the hell i'm talking about.

 

And I get my info on my "fantastic" scouting jobs from the ACTUAL GAME FOOTAGE and not some random website article.

 

You spend hours watching the games and the vidoes then come talk to me. Until then just keep repeating what you read other write.

 

The other who are basically wrong on like at least 50% of the players they "Think" is the best, which is evidence by the Well know fact that Most 1st rounders never make a big impact, or at least half.

 

 

[tvturner]

22 minutes ago, Freeupfreeney said:

 

Look dude, its not my fault you don't know anything.

 

He said about 3 months ago "I feel like im overlooked because i'm white"

 

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/05/20/stephen-a-on-stanfords-mccaffrey-feeling-overlooked-for-being-a-white-rb-welcome-to-our-world/

 

Dude, stop instulting me because you are unaware of things, and jumping on me because others do and do  you own research.

 

this could come up in the future...which is why I didn't want to say anything, but i'm getting sick of comments like yours.

 

I KNOW what the hell i'm talking about.

 

And I get my info on my "fantastic" scouting jobs from the ACTUAL GAME FOOTAGE and not some random website article.

 

You spend hours watching the games and the vidoes then come talk to me. Until then just keep repeating what you read other write.

 

The other who are basically wrong on like at least 50% of the players they "Think" is the best, which is evidence by the Well know fact that Most 1st rounders never make a big impact, or at least half.

 

 

Because white RBs do get overlooked because it's been a hell of a long time since there was a good one. His stock won't dropped because he feels he's underrated..

Also you think you know what you're talking about and you watch 10 minute videos on YouTube to get your information. What you're saying is your a scouting god who's never wrong while everybody else is because they don't agree with your crap.

[chad72]

1 hour ago, Shive said:

The Giants have the need, but I don't see him being a fit in the offense. 

 

If you are a good OC, you find a way to use him. Giants run plenty of screens to RBs and dump offs to RBs in the flat, there is just no second gear in their current RBs to make too much of it. I am sure they will at least think about it.

 

But yeah, Packers hands down will use him much better among the teams picking later than the Giants. Mike McCoy is back as OC for the Broncos, and he used a lot of crossing routes with his wide outs and RBs while with the Chargers, so the talent might be too good to pass up. We will see.

[chad72]

5 minutes ago, Boomstick1 said:

Because white RBs do get overlooked because it's been a hell of a long time since there was a good one. His stock won't dropped because he feels he's underrated..

Also you think you know what you're talking about and you watch 10 minute videos on YouTube to get your information. What you're saying is your a scouting god who's never wrong while everybody else is because they don't agree with your crap.

 

Respect is earned, not demanded, at least that is what I thought. 

[Freeupfreeney]

4 minutes ago, Boomstick1 said:

Because white RBs do get overlooked because it's been a hell of a long time since there was a good one. His stock won't dropped because he feels he's underrated..

Also you think you know what you're talking about and you watch 10 minute videos on YouTube to get your information. What you're saying is your a scouting god who's never wrong while everybody else is because they don't agree with your crap.

I never said I was never wrong...but I'm write this time. 

 

 And those 10 minutes videos are a condensed video that shows EVER PLAY the highlighted player was involved in for the ENTIRE game, which makes it easier than watching a 3 hour game.

 

And I think the only reason he is considered as low as he is know, is because of those comments he made.

 

 A lot of people don't know Kurt Warner and Tim Tebow were ostrasized because of their strong religious beliefs. Tebow wasn't that good, but he was no where near as bad as people said (I know you gonna say I sound stupid saying that because everone else says blah blah blah...) but I don't care what everyone else says. He wasn't an accurate QB but neither was Donovan McNcabb. but he won games, so was the case with Tebow. Tebow's first 16 games, and his stats would have been considered a pretty decent first 16 for any rookie if you go back and look.

 

But people are not, and the NFL WILL NEVER ADMIT and the RAMS will never admit, that they didn't want' any religious zealots or anything causing a media stir at their stadium. That's one the 2nd biggest reason Tebow never had a chance, that and he was inaccurate as hell. And that's was, by Kurt Warners own words, the reason why he was cut from the Rams in favor or Marc Buldger.

 

And Kurt Warners coach set him up, cuz he left him in the game with a concucssion and he turned the ball over 6 times and benched him for the whole year...only to watch him go to the SB with the Cardinals a few years later.

 

My point, some things lie beneath what MOST people see. I see those things, and i'm just talking about it. If you can't see it fine, but of course, like I said, it s a reason you never heard it before.

 

If Cafney never said those things, hed be considered a top 15 pick, but teams see that as a potential problem.

 

The guy ran 1,600 yards with a bad hip. Cmon man.

 

So if you want' to know why he isn't still talked about as much, it's because of that. I think he was talked about plenty, so he is also a potential pre-Madonna. That's my theory, that's not fact, but my theory is based on hard facts.

 

[tvturner]

1 minute ago, Freeupfreeney said:

I never said I was never wrong...but I'm write this time. 

 

 And those 10 minutes videos are a condensed video that shows EVER PLAY the highlighted player was involved in for the ENTIRE game, which makes it easier than watching a 3 hour game.

 

 

No you think you're right every single time. I've looked at your scouting reports and every time somebody says something you don't agree with, you attack them

And you can't correctly evaluate players after watching 2 games of them

[NewColtsFan]

2 hours ago, Jared Cisneros said:

I would be shocked if he goes before us. I would also be very happy as it would allow a defensive player to fall to us. We could use him as leverage to trade down with Denver and acquire a 2nd round pick (even though 5 picks isn't worth that, a franchise RB might persuade them to do so).

 

Sorry,   I wrote something poorly.

 

When I wrote that I doubt Christian would fall to us,  I meant in the 2nd round,  NOT the first round.     My bad!

 

 

[NewColtsFan]

19 minutes ago, Freeupfreeney said:

I never said I was never wrong...but I'm write this time. 

 

 And those 10 minutes videos are a condensed video that shows EVER PLAY the highlighted player was involved in for the ENTIRE game, which makes it easier than watching a 3 hour game.

 

And I think the only reason he is considered as low as he is know, is because of those comments he made.

 

 A lot of people don't know Kurt Warner and Tim Tebow were ostrasized because of their strong religious beliefs. Tebow wasn't that good, but he was no where near as bad as people said (I know you gonna say I sound stupid saying that because everone else says blah blah blah...) but I don't care what everyone else says. He wasn't an accurate QB but neither was Donovan McNcabb. but he won games, so was the case with Tebow. Tebow's first 16 games, and his stats would have been considered a pretty decent first 16 for any rookie if you go back and look.

 

But people are not, and the NFL WILL NEVER ADMIT and the RAMS will never admit, that they didn't want' any religious zealots or anything causing a media stir at their stadium. That's one the 2nd biggest reason Tebow never had a chance, that and he was inaccurate as hell. And that's was, by Kurt Warners own words, the reason why he was cut from the Rams in favor or Marc Buldger.

 

And Kurt Warners coach set him up, cuz he left him in the game with a concucssion and he turned the ball over 6 times and benched him for the whole year...only to watch him go to the SB with the Cardinals a few years later.

 

My point, some things lie beneath what MOST people see. I see those things, and i'm just talking about it. If you can't see it fine, but of course, like I said, it s a reason you never heard it before.

 

If Cafney never said those things, hed be considered a top 15 pick, but teams see that as a potential problem.

 

The guy ran 1,600 yards with a bad hip. Cmon man.

 

So if you want' to know why he isn't still talked about as much, it's because of that. I think he was talked about plenty, so he is also a potential pre-Madonna. That's my theory, that's not fact, but my theory is based on hard facts.

 

 

Oh, Dear God.....      

 

Just wondering,  but you do know that other people here can read this, don't you?      I mean,  you write this stuff and it's not just you that can read it.

 

This post is a train wreck on so many different levels I lost count.     So, if you realize other people can read it, then wow....    just.....    wow.     

 

Personally,  I'd quit while I was behind,   but somehow I don't think you'll take that option.....

 

Holy Toldeo.......

 

 

[Shive]

19 minutes ago, Freeupfreeney said:

 A lot of people don't know Kurt Warner and Tim Tebow were ostrasized because of their strong religious beliefs. Tebow wasn't that good, but he was no where near as bad as people said (I know you gonna say I sound stupid saying that because everone else says blah blah blah...) but I don't care what everyone else says. He wasn't an accurate QB but neither was Donovan McNcabb. but he won games, so was the case with Tebow. Tebow's first 16 games, and his stats would have been considered a pretty decent first 16 for any rookie if you go back and look.

 

If Cafney never said those things, hed be considered a top 15 pick, but teams see that as a potential problem.

 

So if you want' to know why he isn't still talked about as much, it's because of that. I think he was talked about plenty, so he is also a potential pre-Madonna. That's my theory, that's not fact, but my theory is based on hard facts.

 

I'm not sure what your Warner & Tebow comments have to do with CM, because I don't see the connection, at all.

 

I haven't heard anyone mention those comments lately, let alone that they're hurting him. Completely disregarding the comments, I don't see him as a top 15 pick. He's on the small side, has a lot more miles on him than any other RB in the draft this year, and isn't viewed as a workhorse back. We all know that the value of taking RB's in the 1st round is still quite low and you have to be viewed as a feature back to go that high.

 

Prima donna:

01: a person that's considered vain, temperamental and/or conceited.

 

I wouldn't use that word to describe CM, however, I'd love to see you cite a specific quote of his that has led you to label him a prima donna.

[Freeupfreeney]

6 minutes ago, Shive said:

I'm not sure what your Warner & Tebow comments have to do with CM, because I don't see the connection, at all.

 

I haven't heard anyone mention those comments lately, let alone that they're hurting him. Completely disregarding the comments, I don't see him as a top 15 pick. He's on the small side, has a lot more miles on him than any other RB in the draft this year, and isn't viewed as a workhorse back. We all know that the value of taking RB's in the 1st round is still quite low and you have to be viewed as a feature back to go that high.

 

Prima donna:

01: a person that's considered vain, temperamental and/or conceited.

 

I wouldn't use that word to describe CM, however, I'd love to see you cite a specific quote of his that has led you to label him a prima donna.

Okay, it's because his stats were so good, and he did so many increadible thing, he really should be the only person were talking about in this Draft. If he were black, yeah he might be a top 3 pick, even if he was the exact same size and speed and everthing else.

 

I personally understand his frustration, but I don't understand how, with an Stanford education, he would say that out loud, knowing what the media might say to him.

 

But, it wasn't like NOBODY was talking about him. He was gaining more and more recognition.

 

So, if he wasn't happy with the Praise he was getting, which I think was enough for any college players, that suggest he may be a bit of a pre-Madonna.

 

What if he comes in the league and gets 1,111 yards ands 10 TD and doesn't get Rookie of the year?

 

Is he going to start complaining that he didn't get it because of his race?

[snkdy]

2 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

Thanks....     I thought he was talking about the disrespected comment as well.

 

I take no offense at anyone who is not a Christian fan.      I get the reasons.    And Christian did NOT endear himself to the Stanford community by not playing in the Sun Bowl.      That was a stunning decision.     I thought it was a belated April Fool's joke.

 

But he killed it yesterday....    good for him.     Doesn't mean he'll get taken in the 1st round --- I'm not sure.    But I don't see him falling to the Colts when we pick.      He might fall that far,  but I'd be surprised.

 

 

Christian skipping out on the Sun Bowl never bothered me NCF. I'm sure a lot of people at Stanford felt the same way. I thought that the criticism was a little unfair to be honest. He had been dealing with a number of injuries all season.

[Freeupfreeney]

22 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

Oh, Dear God.....      

 

Just wondering,  but you do know that other people here can read this, don't you?      I mean,  you write this stuff and it's not just you that can read it.

 

This post is a train wreck on so many different levels I lost count.     So, if you realize other people can read it, then wow....    just.....    wow.     

 

Personally,  I'd quit while I was behind,   but somehow I don't think you'll take that option.....

 

Holy Toldeo.......

 

 

Did you know that Kurt Warner said he felt that he was ostrasized because of his religious beliefs?

 

Did you know that Tebows stats (besides his completion accuracy) was pretty good by rookie standards for his first 16 games?

 

Did you know any of that stuff? No you didn't.

 

That's the problem with the world. Yall need somebody with a title that says (i'm an expert and what I says matter) for you to agree with anything.

 

And when it comes to the draft Everybody is wrong about players more than half the time, so what does "everybody" really know.

 

Alshon Jeffrey for example had a terrible season his last year in college. He was slow, couldn't get separation and even david amerson who had a terrible last year too shut him down. SO I said, he's gonna be a bum.

 

But he came into the league, lost weight and dominated. In any other case, he would have failed, but maybe he had a coach he was close too.

 

THERE ARE TOO MANY VARIABLE TO CONSIDER for you to take my analysis and shoot it down over any other.

 

At least i'm forming my own opinion by what mine own eyes can see, and you guys are just repeating what these so called experts are saying.

 

If you disagree with me, that's fine, but if you don't have facts to refute me, your just trying to troll me.

 

I enjoy arguing with you guys, because I want to see how far some of you will just start saying random stuff to make me come off as dumb.

[NFLfan]

9 minutes ago, snkdy said:

 

Christian skipping out on the Sun Bowl never bothered me NCF. I'm sure a lot of people at Stanford felt the same way. I thought that the criticism was a little unfair to be honest. He had been dealing with a number of injuries all season.

 

It did bother me. I wanted him to be there with his teammates. I don't believe him when he said that all his teammates supported his decision.

[Smonroe]

10 minutes ago, Freeupfreeney said:

Okay, it's because his stats were so good, and he did so many increadible thing, he really should be the only person were talking about in this Draft. If he were black, yeah he might be a top 3 pick, even if he was the exact same size and speed and everthing else.

 

I personally understand his frustration, but I don't understand how, with an Stanford education, he would say that out loud, knowing what the media might say to him.

 

But, it wasn't like NOBODY was talking about him. He was gaining more and more recognition.

 

So, if he wasn't happy with the Praise he was getting, which I think was enough for any college players, that suggest he may be a bit of a pre-Madonna.

 

What if he comes in the league and gets 1,111 yards ands 10 TD and doesn't get Rookie of the year?

 

Is he going to start complaining that he didn't get it because of his race?

 

Pre-Madonna!  Would that be Cher?  

 

That's a classic.  

 

*

 

[Freeupfreeney]

21 minutes ago, Shive said:

I'm not sure what your Warner & Tebow comments have to do with CM, because I don't see the connection, at all.

 

 

This is the connection.

 

No NFL team is going to say, we are cutting Tim Tebow or Kurt Warner because they are too religious.

 

And no NFL team is going to say, especially in this era, that they won't draft mccafernney because he thinks his race is the reason he is not respected more.

 

You get it?

 

I honestly think if McCafferney was black, he's be a top 10 pick, no questions asked. His only flaw is he's not a big bruiser and he's not super fast, but he is big, and fast enough.

[snkdy]

1 minute ago, NFLfan said:

 

It did bother me. 

 

How come? I guess I see the argument that he was being selfish and abandoning his teammates, but when you take the hip injuries into account, sitting out made sense to me?

[tvturner]

Just now, Freeupfreeney said:

 

This is the connection.

 

No NFL team is going to say, we are cutting Tim Tebow or Kurt Warner because they are too religious.

 

And no NFL team is going to say, especially in this era, that they won't draft mccafernney because he thinks his race is the reason he is not respected more.

 

You get it?

 

I honestly think if McCafferney was black, he's be a top 10 pick, no questions asked. His only flaw is he's not a big bruiser and he's not super fast, but he is big, and fast enough.

You are literally blowing this way out of proportion. He thinks he's overlooked and underrated because he's a white RB. It has nothing to do with race, it has everything to do with the fact that white RBs tend to not work out, hence why teams hesistate. 

[Shive]

2 minutes ago, Freeupfreeney said:

Okay, it's because his stats were so good, and he did so many increadible thing, he really should be the only person were talking about in this Draft. If he were black, yeah he might be a top 3 pick, even if he was the exact same size and speed and everthing else.

 

I personally understand his frustration, but I don't understand how, with an Stanford education, he would say that out loud, knowing what the media might say to him.

 

But, it wasn't like NOBODY was talking about him. He was gaining more and more recognition.

 

So, if he wasn't happy with the Praise he was getting, which I think was enough for any college players, that suggest he may be a bit of a pre-Madonna.

 

What if he comes in the league and gets 1,111 yards ands 10 TD and doesn't get Rookie of the year?

 

Is he going to start complaining that he didn't get it because of his race?

I don't think it's a "I didn't win the Heisman despite my ridiculous season" kind of comment, so I don't think what you said above holds much weight, nor is it a concern.

 

His father had these comments:

"There are immediate stereotypes about a white running back who grew up in the suburbs of Colorado. When we've gone to camps or all-star games, he walks on the field and people look at him like he's nothing."

 

His entire football career has been him fighting against this stereotype, so I think its much more than not getting enough recognition or praise. It's about him busting his butt, doing just as well or better than his African-American counterparts, and people still going "meh..." A combine example: I find it interesting that him and Cook have very similar measurables, yet Cook is viewed as a better back...

 

McCaffery:

5'11" 202lbs

• 4.48 SEC

  Top Performer

• 10 REPS

• 37.5 INCH

  Top Performer

• 121.0 INCH

 

 

 

 

 

Cook:

5'10" 210lbs

• 4.49 SEC

• 22 REPS

  Top Performer

• 30.5 INCH

• 116.0 INCH