Is It Bad Qb Play Or Was Duron Carter Just Massively Overhyped?

[ColtsLegacy]

he did in college, he hasnt in the nfl because his team already has a return man.  that return man also happens to have one of the longest strides in the nfl

 

You're right, 14 total and he was completely underwhelming. Long-stride and all.

[RockThatBlue]

He had an OK game tonight. Nothing special but at least had a few catches.

[GoColts8818]

Carter's best outing so far tonight but didn't blow my socks off but he did show signs of life. I still think Griff has out played him to this point.

[ColtsLegacy]

Carter's best outing so far tonight but didn't blow my socks off but he did show signs of life. I still think Griff has out played him to this point.

 

Yeah, this was Carter's best game but it was Whalen's too. I came away more impressed with Whalen.

[BOTT]

I guess he somehow earned playing time with Luck.

[Lawrence Owen]

I guess he somehow earned playing time with Luck.

No Dorsett allowed him to play with Luck.

He's still VERY raw in his route running.  Letting DB's dictate where he goes is not a sign of a starter.-or even 2nd stringer-

But he shown tools that makes him keepable and trainable.  When Luck had to throw the early pass and carter looked up at the end of his route, the ball was already there, yet he somehow caught it.  Most rookie's won't catch that. He just needs to learn to play more physical against DB's.

[NagelHausForge]

Well overall I liked what I saw from Carter.  He did allow himself to be bullied off of routes which he certainly needs to work on.  But overall I think he showed some good things.

 

Not sure if he will be stashed on the PS or kept on the active roster... I wouldn't be surprised one way or another though

[NewEra]

We already have enough little wr's don't need another in Whalen. I'd take Carters potential over what we've seen from Whalen the last 3 years anyday

[rockywoj]

No way I see him clearing waivers to be "stashed" on the PS. At this point I'd still be shocked if Carter doesn't make the team.

[mikey287]

Don't mean to re-hash, but whoever was saying that long strides are something coaches/scouts would prefer (maybe "covet" in some circumstances) is right on. You can tell that by just looking at the on-field mechanics of the whole thing, you look at a player like Jacoby Jones - who really isn't overly fast (ran like a 4.5 40, which is about as fast as disgusting fat slob Dwayne Bowe) - and he's KR ace.

 

Also, my time at Rutgers, I knew some of the people that worked with the team and lived next to some of the players (including NFLers the McCourty twins, Kenny Britt and Tiquan Underwood, who lived next to me Apt. 200 my sophomore year) and part of the reason why the insanely fast, but very small, Tim Brown was taken off KR duty after just one season was, well, not due to his on-field speed I can tell you that. 

 

That said, it's all part of the evaluation process. Not everyone will require a long stride to play KR. But it's certainly something you might want to factor into the equation because of how much faster the angles change on a KR given the opposing speed on these plays. That stride length makes a difference by just changing the angle that much, it can be the difference between being tackled or breaking a tackle...

[BOTT]

No Dorsett allowed him to play with Luck.

He's still VERY raw in his route running.  Letting DB's dictate where he goes is not a sign of a starter.-or even 2nd stringer-

But he shown tools that makes him keepable and trainable.  When Luck had to throw the early pass and carter looked up at the end of his route, the ball was already there, yet he somehow caught it.  Most rookie's won't catch that. He just needs to learn to play more physical against DB's.

I was responding to people who said he was behind griff and the other camp bodies.

The people who are killing Carter are being just as ridiculous as the guys who expected way to much from him. God lord, if he had dropped a pass, fumbled and then gotten injured people would be killing him.

[Lawrence Owen]

I was responding to people who said he was behind griff and the other camp bodies.

The people who are killing Carter are being just as ridiculous as the guys who expected way to much from him. God lord, if he had dropped a pass, fumbled and then gotten injured people would be killing him.

Granted.  Rookies are expected to have learning curves.and EVERYONE has bad games.  He has potential,..just has alot to learn.

[ColtsLegacy]

No way I see him clearing waivers to be "stashed" on the PS. At this point I'd still be shocked if Carter doesn't make the team.

But, why? He really hasn't shown much.

[Dustin]

I searched "long strides kick returner" and this page was the 7th result.

[ColtsLegacy]

I searched "long strides kick returner" and this page was the 7th result.

. I'm surprised it's that low, to be honest.

[aaron11]

I searched "long strides kick returner" and this page was the 7th result.

its because these posts are new.  show me something that says the contrary...

 

Don't mean to re-hash, but whoever was saying that long strides are something coaches/scouts would prefer (maybe "covet" in some circumstances) is right on. You can tell that by just looking at the on-field mechanics of the whole thing, you look at a player like Jacoby Jones - who really isn't overly fast (ran like a 4.5 40, which is about as fast as disgusting fat slob Dwayne Bowe) - and he's KR ace.

 

Also, my time at Rutgers, I knew some of the people that worked with the team and lived next to some of the players (including NFLers the McCourty twins, Kenny Britt and Tiquan Underwood, who lived next to me Apt. 200 my sophomore year) and part of the reason why the insanely fast, but very small, Tim Brown was taken off KR duty after just one season was, well, not due to his on-field speed I can tell you that. 

 

That said, it's all part of the evaluation process. Not everyone will require a long stride to play KR. But it's certainly something you might want to factor into the equation because of how much faster the angles change on a KR given the opposing speed on these plays. That stride length makes a difference by just changing the angle that much, it can be the difference between being tackled or breaking a tackle...

this guy knows what hes talking about.  its not mandatory to be have a long stride, but it is a positive for a number of reasons

[Dustin]

edit-do you have any evidence that says stride length is not a factor for return men, because i have links that support my claim

You can't prove a negative.

[aaron11]

You can't prove a negative.

i can, and did support my case. you like to call me out because of prior arguments i'm guessing

[Dustin]

i can, and did support my case. you like to call me out because of prior arguments i'm guessing

What prior arguments?

[chrisfarley]

Has he shown he should get playing time with the 1s so far?

I feel he did that in training camp and has shown promise in pre-season but hasn't gotten the "good" snaps yet.