Harbaugh, "Flacco is the best Qb in football."

[GoColts8818]

He's his coach and he won a Super Bowl with Flacco I think it's safe to say he's biast.

[akcolt]

Flacco is good and his coach and the locker room believe in him no problem with Harbaugh saying that

[Fire Pagano]

Any proof of this?  Any stats to back that up?

 

http://nesn.com/2014/11/darrelle-revis-brandon-browners-solid-play-among-takeaways-from-patriots-broncos/

i dont see how this helps your case

 

"Revis and Browner weren’t perfect Sunday, but they certainly earned their contracts — and hype — by limiting Demaryius Thomas, Emmanuel Sanders and Julius Thomas. Browner lined up at both cornerback, covering either Demaryius Thomas or Sanders, and in a hybrid safety/linebacker/slot role, where he took on Julius Thomas.

Read more at: http://nesn.com/2014/11/darrelle-revis-brandon-browners-solid-play-among-takeaways-from-patriots-broncos/"

 

demaryius thomas (covered by browner) 127 yards

sanders (also covered by browner) 151 yards

Julius Thomas (covered sometimes by Browner) 33 yards and 1 td (2 receptions/ 2 targets)

 

i would say you have a very loose understanding of the term "shut down" if I had access to pff and could look at revis's completion percentage allowed or similar stat, i would wager that at least 50 percent of all those yards and the td were given up by browner

[amfootball]

You forget he outplayed Brady in 2011 also. He put the ball right in Evan's hands also on that play.

Sure so why does Harbaugh need to pump his tires for this game? Seems liked a ridiculous comment to make to me. Perhaps he wanted to continue to justify Joe's pay to Ravens fans ...

[amfootball]

If he won it all this year, he is the greatest for me also. I don't want to go crazy, as this is an 11-6 wildcard team with tons of injuries.

If he wins, he is the same as Eli.

[amfootball]

I think it's funny how you can replace the name Flacco with Brady in this argument.  Welcome to the Colts fan side of the Manning vs Brady debate and am glad a Pats fan finally agrees.

It does not apply post 2006 when Brady has carried horrible defenses deep into the playoffs and into the Super Bowl ...

[MJD42]

You forget he outplayed Brady in 2011 also. He put the ball right in Evan's hands also on that play.

How did last year go IN Baltimore when the Ravens were still alive for a playoff berth? That was basically a playoff game and Brady significantly outplayed Joe in his house with no Gronk ...

[Shane Bond]

If he wins, he is the same as Eli.

And Eli is 2-0 in SBs with clutch game winning drives. I will take that any day.

[Valpo2004]

Don't see why coaches have to overbill their players.  I don't expect him to say that Flacco is just average or slightly above average. 

 

But why do you have to go claiming he's the best in the league?

[amfootball]

And Eli is 2-0 in SBs with clutch game winning drives. I will take that any day.

I will take 3 rings personally.

[The Old Crow]

I think it's funny how you can replace the name Flacco with Brady in this argument. Welcome to the Colts fan side of the Manning vs Brady debate and am glad a Pats fan finally agrees.

It is a funny argument coming from the NE side vis a vis the Manning vs. Brady deal. From my perspective, I like Joe. I'm not saying he's the best of all time, but as a Baltimore fan, I'm darn glad I have him, because he wins, and as a fan, that is what counts. I remember the Stoney Case/ Scott Mitchell years, and I am very satisfied to have Joe. The guy has the most road wins in NFL history, and that is saying something. It's not all the defense, you have to put points on the board on the road. Is he the best QB in history, no, but he's the best QB for Baltimore .

[amfootball]

It is a funny argument coming from the NE side vis a vis the Manning vs. Brady deal. From my perspective, I like Joe. I'm not saying he's the best of all time, but as a Baltimore fan, I'm darn glad I have him, because he wins, and as a fan, that is what counts. I remember the Stoney Case/ Scott Mitchell years, and I am very satisfied to have Joe. The guy has the most road wins in NFL history, and that is saying something. It's not all the defense, you have to put points on the board on the road. Is he the best QB in history, no, but he's the best QB for Baltimore .

To the bolded - no one disagrees with that but that is not what your coach said hence the debate.

[The Old Crow]

To the bolded - no one disagrees with that but that is not what your coach said hence the debate.

He has the right to his opinion, as do you and the others. I am a bit more realistic, but I'm also not a coach trying to get my QB ready for another huge road game. I like the strategy.

[The Old Crow]

One other thing, John also called Suggs interception the greatest catch in NFL history. Put it in perspective , John was pretty giddy getting Baltimore's first ever playoff win against Pittsburgh . It was also a great road win. If you know John, he is a fun loving coach who loves his players. Watch the actual press conference and it will put it more in perspective.

[Valpo2004]

One other thing, John also called Suggs interception the greatest catch in NFL history. Put it in perspective , John was pretty giddy getting Baltimore's first ever playoff win against Pittsburgh . It was also a great road win. If you know John, he is a fun loving coach who loves his players. Watch the actual press conference and it will put it more in perspective.

 

So John has a tendency to label everything Baltimore the greatest despite the fact that they are clearly not?  Strange but I guess he wins.  

[The Old Crow]

So John has a tendency to label everything Baltimore the greatest despite the fact that they are clearly not? Strange but I guess he wins.

Sometimes , he gets pretty excitable like a HS coach. The guy is one heck of a coach and a motivator. Look what he got this team through with Rice, then Ngata. He knows how to fire his team up for big games, and I like how he does it.

[sportsworld33]

i dont see how this helps your case

 

"Revis and Browner weren’t perfect Sunday, but they certainly earned their contracts — and hype — by limiting Demaryius Thomas, Emmanuel Sanders and Julius Thomas. Browner lined up at both cornerback, covering either Demaryius Thomas or Sanders, and in a hybrid safety/linebacker/slot role, where he took on Julius Thomas.

Read more at: http://nesn.com/2014/11/darrelle-revis-brandon-browners-solid-play-among-takeaways-from-patriots-broncos/"

 

demaryius thomas (covered by browner) 127 yards

sanders (also covered by browner) 151 yards

Julius Thomas (covered sometimes by Browner) 33 yards and 1 td (2 receptions/ 2 targets)

 

i would say you have a very loose understanding of the term "shut down" if I had access to pff and could look at revis's completion percentage allowed or similar stat, i would wager that at least 50 percent of all those yards and the td were given up by browner

 

Thanks for helping my case.

 

Browner didn't cover both Thomas' and Sanders at the same time.  Some times Revis was on one of them, some times Kyle Arrington was covering one of them and some times Logan Ryan.  

 

You claimed Browner "sucks" and is no good.  Yet he was able to pretty much contain and do a better job at covering Thomas than most other corners have been able to.

 

And this game was also earlier on in the season when the Broncos were still on fire as the best offensive team.

[Fire Pagano]

Thanks for helping my case.

Browner didn't cover both Thomas' and Sanders at the same time. Some times Revis was on one of them, some times Kyle Arrington was covering one of them and some times Logan Ryan.

You claimed Browner "sucks" and is no good. Yet he was able to pretty much contain and do a better job at covering Thomas than most other corners have been able to.

And this game was also earlier on in the season when the Broncos were still on fire as the best offensive team.

Thomas had 2 receptions on 2 targets one for a td. The other 2 people the article said he covered at times had well over 100 yards receiving. I really think you picked a bad example to argue your point but we can agree to disagree.

[Fire Pagano]

I will take 3 rings personally.

I'll take 2 legit rings

[amfootball]

I'll take 2 legit rings

lol. Take whatever you want. Haters will always hate.

[Fire Pagano]

lol. Take whatever you want. Haters will always hate.

I'm not a hater for bringing up factual information

[amfootball]

I'm not a hater for bringing up factual information

What facts? In your own head? There are no asterisks next to those trophies in the record books sorry to break it to you ...

[pgt_rob]

lol. Take whatever you want. Haters will always hate.

 

[Dustin]

Thomas had 2 receptions on 2 targets one for a td. The other 2 people the article said he covered at times had well over 100 yards receiving. I really think you picked a bad example to argue your point but we can agree to disagree.

Browners stats for the game:

6-10 for 105 yards.

[Fire Pagano]

Browners stats for the game:

6-10 for 105 yards.

Shutdown status

[Fire Pagano]

What facts? In your own head? There are no asterisks next to those trophies in the record books sorry to break it to you ...

l

The fact that the pats cheated is well documented. Or was until they burned the evidence

[amfootball]

l

The fact that the pats cheated is well documented. Or was until they burned the evidence

And they were penalized for the rule violation. Lombardi's still shine the same.

[TAPLOOK]

Joe's not going to have a good game on Saturday. The Ravens are going to get crushed. The Ravens good fast and over pursuing linebackers are just what the doctor ordered for Brady's quick hitting play action attack. I see the Colts handling the Broncos as well and  fully expect to see them in Foxboro the following week. 

[TAPLOOK]

l

The fact that the pats cheated is well documented. Or was until they burned the evidence

 

 

Bla bla bla.

[TAPLOOK]

I'll take 2 legit rings

Weak.

[Dr. Guildo]

In the playoffs he has looked pretty darn good over the last five games. So there is no arguing that... but the best in the league is Aaron Rodgers. Right now, anyway.

[GoPats]

Flacco's had some great performances in the playoffs, no doubt. IMO the "best in the game" label just requires a little more consistency than he's shown. 

 

Let's not forget, the Ravens just about blew it in week 16 and only made the playoffs because the Chargers choked. And Flacco was pretty terrible in 2013, with the defending champs missing the playoffs overall. It looks like they've gotten hot at the right time but we'll see if that continues on Saturday. 

[The Old Crow]

Flacco's had some great performances in the playoffs, no doubt. IMO the "best in the game" label just requires a little more consistency than he's shown.

Let's not forget, the Ravens just about blew it in week 16 and only made the playoffs because the Chargers choked. And Flacco was pretty terrible in 2013, with the defending champs missing the playoffs overall. It looks like they've gotten hot at the right time but we'll see if that continues on Saturday.

And they lost 4 out of 5 going into the playoffs in 2012.

[GoPats]

And they lost 4 out of 5 going into the playoffs in 2012.

 

I hear ya, they certainly looked like they had the mojo rolling the other night. It's just kind of funny, in a matter of two weeks they've gone from being just outside the bubble to a team that a lot of NE fans don't want to see come to Foxboro. I respect them, but... bring it on! If the Patriots can't beat Baltimore at home in January, then they don't deserve it. 

[The Old Crow]

I hear ya, they certainly looked like they had the mojo rolling the other night. It's just kind of funny, in a matter of two weeks they've gone from being just outside the bubble to a team that a lot of NE fans don't want to see come to Foxboro. I respect them, but... bring it on! If the Patriots can't beat Baltimore at home in January, then they don't deserve it.

I'm not making any bombastic predictions about this game. We are 7 point dogs for a reason. I'm just glad we are alive, and am looking forward to the game. After all that has happened this year, the Ravens are playing with house money.

[Synthetic]

Right now I'd take Flacco over every other QB in the playoffs.

 

He's playing at a top level, a lot better than the other guys are at the moment.

As much as we make fun of him over the years, he does deserve credit. He beat the touted Pittsburgh Steelers when I said the Steelers would have problems and people thought I was nuts. So glad that overrated team is out of it.

 

Pats need to be worried about this one. The Ravens are not a cupcake that is going to roll over and let them beat on them. As much as the Pats struggled offensively in certain games, I'd be worried. Brady is due for another game where he looks god awful and the fans start screaming for Jimmy G.

[Shane Bond]

I will take 3 rings personally.

I will take game winning drives not some one kicking field goals to win

[amfootball]

I will take game winning drives not some one kicking field goals to win

Take whatever you want. The win is what matters. Don't care if it is by one point or 30 ... just win baby.

[MJD42]

Right now I'd take Flacco over every other QB in the playoffs.

 

He's playing at a top level, a lot better than the other guys are at the moment.

As much as we make fun of him over the years, he does deserve credit. He beat the touted Pittsburgh Steelers when I said the Steelers would have problems and people thought I was nuts. So glad that overrated team is out of it.

 

Pats need to be worried about this one. The Ravens are not a cupcake that is going to roll over and let them beat on them. As much as the Pats struggled offensively in certain games, I'd be worried. Brady is due for another game where he looks god awful and the fans start screaming for Jimmy G.

Is every team that loses overrated in your opinion? Many people picked the Ravens to beat the Steelers but not because of Flacco but because they were missing their best offensive weapon in Bell.

[MJD42]

I will take game winning drives not some one kicking field goals to win

lol. Chances are you win this weekend because of STs and Adam V. specifically.