loudnproudcolt Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 I know we don't need a WR in this draft, and I hope we don't pick one in the second round. But if Robinson did happen to drop to our spot in the 2nd round, we would have to look at him now. He improved his numbers a great deal from the combine. How much is from the 12 pound weigh loss I don't know. I would prefer a guy who is 6'3" to be 220 lbs. instead of 208 lbs. Regardless his numbers yesterday as reported from CBS sportline were: With a 4.47 time in the 40, 42-inch vertical and 6.53 three-cone at State College, Robinson vastly improved his athletic results from Indy: 4.60, 39-inch vertical, 7.00 three-cone. He also added four inches to his broad jump (131 inches Tuesday). As I said I know we don't need a WR, but I look at the progress of WR Alshon Jeffrey from Chicago last year, and see what a tall, physical, and athletic WR can do in red zone, and I think it would be nice to have someone like that. Who knows if Robinson, Montcrief, etc. will ever be, still I can always be hoping for one. Who knows, Rogers has the potential athletically and physically to be that kind of player. These are the kind of players though who are steals in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. This is such an incredible deep class at WR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 It would also depend on who else is available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrentMc11 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 I know we don't need a WR in this draft, and I hope we don't pick one in the second round. But if Robinson did happen to drop to our spot in the 2nd round, we would have to look at him now. He improved his numbers a great deal from the combine. How much is from the 12 pound weigh loss I don't know. I would prefer a guy who is 6'3" to be 220 lbs. instead of 208 lbs. Regardless his numbers yesterday as reported from CBS sportline were: With a 4.47 time in the 40, 42-inch vertical and 6.53 three-cone at State College, Robinson vastly improved his athletic results from Indy: 4.60, 39-inch vertical, 7.00 three-cone. He also added four inches to his broad jump (131 inches Tuesday). As I said I know we don't need a WR, but I look at the progress of WR Alshon Jeffrey from Chicago last year, and see what a tall, physical, and athletic WR can do in red zone, and I think it would be nice to have someone like that. Who knows if Robinson, Montcrief, etc. will ever be, still I can always be hoping for one. Who knows, Rogers has the potential athletically and physically to be that kind of player. These are the kind of players though who are steals in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. This is such an incredible deep class at WR!I assume you mean Allen Robinson? Frank Robinson was at a baseball game.... I think Allen Robinson is going to be a tough NFL player with that size....I loved him at State Pen....I mean Penn State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Jordan Matthews and Davante Adams are better at that, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Kevlin Benjamin looks like a monster. I wish we could get him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwing BBZ Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Jordan Matthews and Davante Adams are better at that, IMO. Mathews had a 10% drop rate last season. Kind of high against college DB`s. Clearly he has made a lot of fans anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrentMc11 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Kevlin Benjamin looks like a monster. I wish we could get himHe will be gone in the final picks of round 1. He needs to lose some weight to play WR and work on his routes. He also is too big NOT to get off of the line of scrimmage against press coverage..gotta toughen up. May end up at a TE position if he cannot control his weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funktacious2 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Still not opposed to a WR in the second,but I've really warmed up to some of the safeties and cornerbacks who will probably be available at our first pick. I have zero clue what's going on in the minds of our front office, but my gut tells me we won't be adding a WR early. Between Wayne, Nicks, Hilton, Brazill, Whalen, and Rogers we've got a pretty good looking group on paper. Our DBs however, have a much more sketchy look, depth wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Kevlin Benjamin looks like a monster. I wish we could get him Just what we need. A slow WR who can't run routes, create seperation, catch, and who is going to be an OPI monster in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Don't want him even if he is at 59. And not because he's a WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrentMc11 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Just what we need. A slow WR who can run routes, create seperation, catch, and is going to be an OPI monster in the NFL. ???? Can? Welcome back 'Dustin." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 lol meant "can't" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 If you ran at the combine the 40 times from pro days are meaningless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Just what we need. A slow WR who can't run routes, create seperation, catch, and who is going to be an OPI monster in the NFL. yet hes going in the first round. your point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 He will be gone in the final picks of round 1. He needs to lose some weight to play WR and work on his routes. He also is too big NOT to get off of the line of scrimmage against press coverage..gotta toughen up. May end up at a TE position if he cannot control his weight. yea I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 yet hes going in the first round. your point No he's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 No he's not. hes projected as a late first rounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 hes projected as a late first rounder I'd be surprised if he wasn't available at our 2nd round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrentMc11 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 No he's not. Seattle would love him at 32. I have read that in numerous articles. I personally do not think he has the skills...could be a waste of a 1st rounder IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 I'd be surprised if he wasn't available at our 2nd pick. I dont know anything about this kid. just his measurements and projection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BpG Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 There is no way he is available in almost the 3rd round. Even before his pro day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Kevlin Benjamin looks like a monster. I wish we could get him I just read in the last few days that Benjamin is scaring some teams off. His weight, 240 pounds, is just way too much for some teams. Way too big. In the article, Benjamin admitted he's probably too big and that teams would prefer him in the 225 range. Not sure how much of a hit he'll take for this.... it only takes one team to love you.... So, at this point, I still see him as a first rounder, but it wouldn't surprise me if he falls to the 2nd. But not all the way to 59. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Just what we need. A slow WR who can't run routes, create seperation, catch, and who is going to be an OPI monster in the NFL. OPI?? Never heard of it...... Can you elaborate? Thanks..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColtsGo5150 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 I like Allen Robinson a lot. upto FA, He was literally my 2nd round pick in very mock draft. I thought he could be a very good WR opposite Reggie. I was sort of hoping we didn't sign Nicks just so we could draft Robinson- he is that good. Right now, I would like to take him- provided the likes of Jimmie Ward or Marcus Smith are taken or have fallen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 OPI?? Never heard of it...... Can you elaborate? Thanks..... Offensive pass interference. He's extremely grabby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Offensive pass interference. He's extremely grabby. Thanks. Offensive pass interference I've heard of. Just never hear of it described that way before.... Learn something new everyday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Track Guy Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Robinson is going to be a good receiver at the next level, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 If you ran at the combine the 40 times from pro days are meaningless I don't know why you'd think that? If that was the case, then almost no one would work out at pro days. If you can improve your times at the pro days -- depending on how much -- then teams will note the improvement. And not just the 40... but the cone drills and the VJ and BJ as well. If you do better, the NFL will notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I think the best thing about Robinson's improvement is that it may put him in the top 50.... The more players the Colts don't want who are in the top 50, the more players the Colts DO want will be pushed down to us. At least, that's my hope. Every time a team picking in front of us takes a player the Colts don't want I'm going to be very, very happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I don't know why you'd think that? If that was the case, then almost no one would work out at pro days. If you can improve your times at the pro days -- depending on how much -- then teams will note the improvement. And not just the 40... but the cone drills and the VJ and BJ as well. If you do better, the NFL will notice.Everyone magically runs better when it's hand timed....shocking lol. I would take it with a grain of salt if a player improved his 40 time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Everyone magically runs better when it's hand timed....shocking lol. I would take it with a grain of salt if a player improved his 40 time. On the idea that everyone magically runs better when it's hand timed... on that we absolutely agree 100%. So, for me the question becomes, how much faster are they running? The scouts are there with their watches. Everyone knows what the kids did at the combine. So, you can make adjustments based on that. Believe me -- I hear you loud and clear on the difference between electronic timing and hand times! Also, I think it's important to note the jumps as well... I'm reading more and more articles about how scouts are gauging the importance of the jumps showing an athletes explosiveness. Sometimes, kids are doing much better at their school. Not sure how the home-field advantage would help an athlete on those jumps.... but maybe it's just the familiarity of the facility, but kids often do better on their pro days.... go figure... I think on balance we agree... I think what we disagree on is just the amount of salt we're factoring in with you perhaps a little more than me.... but I don't know that it's a lot.... Just thinking out loud here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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