A look at what opposing QB's do before and after facing the Colts

[twfish]

Not only is our defense so bad that it's allowing teams to beat us, it's also so bad that it's opening the eye's of the QB's and giving them confidence to play better ball. This is down right embarrassing IMHO. It's regardless of personnel as we have seen the past 3 years be the same thing. Soft zones with "bend, don't break" mentality that gasses our defense which ultimately results in a lot of breaks. Poor tackling, which is a direct result off coaching, allows huge chunk plays which totally negates playing soft zone.

 

Lets take a look at how QB's have faired against us and after us, I'll be pairing in PFF stats as well a yardage and passer rating to paint the entire picture. Stats against us will be in blue.

 

C.J stroud

Completion % 75%/63.%/64.5%/67.5%/73.7

Yards 234/260/215/344/331

Yards per attempt 7.3/7.2/6.9/8.6/8.7

PFF offensive grade 67.9/75.2/64.6/74.5/80.6

Passer rating 115.9/94.7/68.6/110.9/97.6

 

Malik Willis (this one really hurts because he was a back up who was just brought in)

Completion % 0%/85.7%/68.4%

Yards 0/122/202

YPA 0/8.7/10.6

PFF offensive grade 42.5/71.8/75.9

Passer Rating 39.6/126.8/120.9

 

Caleb Williams

Completion % 48.3%/62.2%/63.5%/73.9%/69.0%

Yards 93/174/363/157/304

YPA 3.2/4.7/7.0/6.8/10.5

PFF offensive grade 49.1/45.1/57.4/65.6/72.0

Passer Rating 55.7/51.0/80.8/106.6/126.2

 

Justin Fields

Completion % 73.9/65.0/78.1/64.7/55.6

Yards 156/117/244/312/132

YPA 6.8/5.9/7.6/9.2/4.9

PFF offensive grade 75.9/69.9/75.4/67.0/59.1

Passer Rating 91.9/97.3/96.0/104.0/93.3

 

Trevor Lawrence

Completion %  57.1%/46.7%/55.3%/54.5%/82.4% 

Yards 162/220/178/173/371

YPA 7.7/7.3/4.7/5.2/10.9

PFF offensive grade 75.1/67.5/51.1/57.9/89.8

Passer Rating 97/7/71.5/65.5/89.1/119.5

 

High completion percentage paired with high yards per attempt is incredibly unacceptable. Looking at the coverage grades from our CB's, they don't grade terribly so that tells me, along with the eye test, that scheme and play calling is the reason. The story has been the same year after year for Gus and team after team. He will continue to be an issue for this team.  He needs to go.

 

[chad72]

We had a stretch last year with the Jaguars, Saints and Browns games where we gave 35+ as an average, if I am not mistaken. Hope this Jaguars game isn't the start of another ugly stretch. 

[John Waylon]

What’s the record for consecutive career days to opposing QBs? If we haven’t set it, we’ve gotta be getting close, surely…

[DougDew]

Not seeing the story here.  The only one that really stands out is Lawrence.  Other QBs passer ratings or other stats don't show us as much of an outlier.

[Indyfan4life]

16 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Not seeing the story here.  The only one that really stands out is Lawrence.  Other QBs passer ratings or other stats don't show us as much of an outlier.

Surely you’re joking. Surely. 

[DougDew]

10 minutes ago, Indyfan4life said:

Surely you’re joking. Surely. 

What are you seeing?  Other than Lawrence, all QBs posted some better numbers in other weeks.  The passer rating is the most important.  Slightly higher, but its not like they posted great numbers against us then bad numbers every other time.

 

Fields, Williams, and Willis are having pretty good success elsewhere.  Stroud is too.  Only Lawrence shows dramatic difference, but he's a good QB.

[Chrisaaron1023]

This has been going on for a long time. I think Drew Brees played us like 5 times in his career and probably had 15 incompletions TOTAL it was ridiculous 

[John Waylon]

16 minutes ago, DougDew said:

What are you seeing?  Other than Lawrence, all QBs posted some better numbers in other weeks.  The passer rating is the most important.  Slightly higher, but its not like they posted great numbers against us then bad numbers every other time.

 

Fields, Williams, and Willis are having pretty good success elsewhere.  Stroud is too.  Only Lawrence shows dramatic difference, but he's a good QB.

Willams has only looked good against us, and Carolina. Carolina! He hasn’t thrown for half as many yards in a game against anyone as he has against us. And Carolina. 
 

Carolina.

 

We let Malik Willis have a career day. 
 

Malik Willis. 
 

You really can’t see a pattern forming here?

[Two_pound]

That was funny John, and spot on.

[JediXMan]

1 hour ago, chad72 said:

We had a stretch last year with the Jaguars, Saints and Browns games where we gave 35+ as an average, if I am not mistaken. Hope this Jaguars game isn't the start of another ugly stretch. 

I don’t see it with the Titans or Tua less Dolphins. However Weeks 8-10 could get ugly Hou, Min, Bills.

[John Waylon]

1 minute ago, JediXMan said:

I don’t see it with the Titans or Tua less Dolphins. However Weeks 8-10 could get ugly Hou, Min, Bills.

I could see it with the Titans. Levis can rip and Calvin Ridley can still make plays. Levis could well have a big game in that one. 
 

The Dolphins without Tua I agree. There should be nothing go wrong that week. Let’s see if they can pass that test. 😬

[indyagent17]

48 minutes ago, Indyfan4life said:

Surely you’re joking. Surely. 

No kidding! Passer rating means nothing. Its a yardstick for how well a QB plays 

[indyagent17]

Until we bring in a top defensive mind this trend will just go on and on.

 

Irsay and Ballard needs to find this person and target them and I am so over older DC's We need innovation and accountability and schemes that are from this century 

[csmopar]

Until we get rid of the Gus Bradley scheme and coaching, this will happen every week. 

[Indyfan4life]

1 hour ago, DougDew said:

What are you seeing?  Other than Lawrence, all QBs posted some better numbers in other weeks.  The passer rating is the most important.  Slightly higher, but its not like they posted great numbers against us then bad numbers every other time.

 

Fields, Williams, and Willis are having pretty good success elsewhere.  Stroud is too.  Only Lawrence shows dramatic difference, but he's a good QB.

Three QB’s in a row had career games against us. Jacobs and Mixon had their best game in YEARS. Idk how else to convey this defense is trash along with Bradley and Ballard to you. 

[jbaron04]

Teams and QBs always get right on us. We need an aggressive attacking defense to match Shane. Gus type of defense doesn’t work in NFL because you can’t protect the soft spots in a zone with big hits. Back in the day cover 3 had holes but you could knock a guy head off to complete a pass , which you can’t do today 

[jbaron04]

9 minutes ago, csmopar said:

Until we get rid of the Gus Bradley scheme and coaching, this will happen every week. 

Gus scheme doesn’t work work in 2024 but to be fair guys have to make tackles and players have to make plays. Like how many of them drives is done if a guy makes a tackle etc….

[csmopar]

20 minutes ago, jbaron04 said:

Gus scheme doesn’t work work in 2024 but to be fair guys have to make tackles and players have to make plays. Like how many of them drives is done if a guy makes a tackle etc….

Yes but that’s been a common theme since Bradley has been here, no matter who we have playing where it’s the same thing, missed tackles, blown coverages and playing 10 yards off WRs. 

[cdgacoltsfan]

3 hours ago, twfish said:

Not only is our defense so bad that it's allowing teams to beat us, it's also so bad that it's opening the eye's of the QB's and giving them confidence to play better ball. This is down right embarrassing IMHO. It's regardless of personnel as we have seen the past 3 years be the same thing. Soft zones with "bend, don't break" mentality that gasses our defense which ultimately results in a lot of breaks. Poor tackling, which is a direct result off coaching, allows huge chunk plays which totally negates playing soft zone.

 

Lets take a look at how QB's have faired against us and after us, I'll be pairing in PFF stats as well a yardage and passer rating to paint the entire picture. Stats against us will be in blue.

 

C.J stroud

Completion % 75%/63.%/64.5%/67.5%/73.7

Yards 234/260/215/344/331

Yards per attempt 7.3/7.2/6.9/8.6/8.7

PFF offensive grade 67.9/75.2/64.6/74.5/80.6

Passer rating 115.9/94.7/68.6/110.9/97.6

 

Malik Willis (this one really hurts because he was a back up who was just brought in)

Completion % 0%/85.7%/68.4%

Yards 0/122/202

YPA 0/8.7/10.6

PFF offensive grade 42.5/71.8/75.9

Passer Rating 39.6/126.8/120.9

 

Caleb Williams

Completion % 48.3%/62.2%/63.5%/73.9%/69.0%

Yards 93/174/363/157/304

YPA 3.2/4.7/7.0/6.8/10.5

PFF offensive grade 49.1/45.1/57.4/65.6/72.0

Passer Rating 55.7/51.0/80.8/106.6/126.2

 

Justin Fields

Completion % 73.9/65.0/78.1/64.7/55.6

Yards 156/117/244/312/132

YPA 6.8/5.9/7.6/9.2/4.9

PFF offensive grade 75.9/69.9/75.4/67.0/59.1

Passer Rating 91.9/97.3/96.0/104.0/93.3

 

Trevor Lawrence

Completion %  57.1%/46.7%/55.3%/54.5%/82.4% 

Yards 162/220/178/173/371

YPA 7.7/7.3/4.7/5.2/10.9

PFF offensive grade 75.1/67.5/51.1/57.9/89.8

Passer Rating 97/7/71.5/65.5/89.1/119.5

 

High completion percentage paired with high yards per attempt is incredibly unacceptable. Looking at the coverage grades from our CB's, they don't grade terribly so that tells me, along with the eye test, that scheme and play calling is the reason. The story has been the same year after year for Gus and team after team. He will continue to be an issue for this team.  He needs to go.

 

It's been this way for decades.

[cdgacoltsfan]

1 hour ago, John Waylon said:

I could see it with the Titans. Levis can rip and Calvin Ridley can still make plays. Levis could well have a big game in that one. 
 

The Dolphins without Tua I agree. There should be nothing go wrong that week. Let’s see if they can pass that test. 😬

Levis ripped it so bad last week, they benched him.