NFLfan Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Guess how many Colts are listed? Who are they? (Best NFL player to ever wear #18 is _____________). There is one Colt player listed that I never heard of. His playing career ended in the late 1990s. Anyone know? Also: Who is the best NFL player to ever wear #99? J.J. Watt, Warren Sapp, Jason Taylor, DeForest Buckner, Aaron Donald, Dan Hampton, Mark Gastineau, anyone else? (Some elite players there!) https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/lists/best-nfl-player-jersey-number-tom-brady-aaron-donald/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, NFLfan said: Guess how many Colts are listed? Who are they? (Best NFL player to ever wear #18 is _____________). There is one Colt player listed that I never heard of. His playing career ended in the late 1990s. Anyone know? Also: Who is the best NFL player to ever wear #99? J.J. Watt, Warren Sapp, Jason Taylor, DeForest Buckner, Aaron Donald, Dan Hampton, Mark Gastineau, anyone else? (Some elite players there!) https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/lists/best-nfl-player-jersey-number-tom-brady-aaron-donald/ Eugene Daniel was a bright spot on an otherwise disastrous Colts Era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 1 hour ago, NFLfan said: Guess how many Colts are listed? Who are they? (Best NFL player to ever wear #18 is _____________). There is one Colt player listed that I never heard of. His playing career ended in the late 1990s. Anyone know? Also: Who is the best NFL player to ever wear #99? J.J. Watt, Warren Sapp, Jason Taylor, DeForest Buckner, Aaron Donald, Dan Hampton, Mark Gastineau, anyone else? (Some elite players there!) https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/lists/best-nfl-player-jersey-number-tom-brady-aaron-donald/ Between Watt and Donald, that is almost a coin flip. I would say Donald by a nose hair but that is tough. 1 hour ago, NFLfan said: Guess how many Colts are listed? Who are they? (Best NFL player to ever wear #18 is _____________). There is one Colt player listed that I never heard of. His playing career ended in the late 1990s. Anyone know? Also: Who is the best NFL player to ever wear #99? J.J. Watt, Warren Sapp, Jason Taylor, DeForest Buckner, Aaron Donald, Dan Hampton, Mark Gastineau, anyone else? (Some elite players there!) https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/lists/best-nfl-player-jersey-number-tom-brady-aaron-donald/ Between Watt and Donald, that is almost a coin flip. I would say Donald by a nose hair but that is tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Off the top of my head: Best #12 is Tom Brady Best #16 is Joe Montana Best #18 is Peyton Best #32 is Jim Brown Best #22 is Emmitt Smith Best #80 is Jerry Rice Best #56 is Lawrence Taylor Best #21 is Deion Sanders Best #52 is Ray Lewis Best #99 is Aaron Donald but JJ Watt is close! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock8591 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Greg Ostertag (00) - NBA 00 not a typo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 31 minutes ago, rock8591 said: Greg Ostertag (00) - NBA 00 not a typo. Robert Parish wore 00 in the NBA. Jim Otto wore 00 in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltsva Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 1 minute ago, jvan1973 said: Jim Otto wore 00 in the NFL He had 00 and OO on his jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 1 minute ago, coltsva said: He had 00 and OO on his jersey. He did indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltsva Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 As a youngster, I do remember Jim Otto from the early 70's Raiders. What I did not know was all the surgeries and physical issues he suffered during & after his playing days. Amazing what he went through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 35 minutes ago, coltsva said: As a youngster, I do remember Jim Otto from the early 70's Raiders. What I did not know was all the surgeries and physical issues he suffered during & after his playing days. Amazing what he went through. Many players have similar issues. It's a brutal game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLfan Posted July 1, 2023 Author Share Posted July 1, 2023 6 hours ago, jvan1973 said: Eugene Daniel was a bright spot on an otherwise disastrous Colts Era. Thank you. I was not familiar with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLfan Posted July 1, 2023 Author Share Posted July 1, 2023 5 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: Off the top of my head: Best #12 is Tom Brady Best #16 is Joe Montana Best #18 is Peyton Best #32 is Jim Brown Best #22 is Emmitt Smith Best #80 is Jerry Rice Best #56 is Lawrence Taylor Best #21 is Deion Sanders Best #52 is Ray Lewis Best #99 is Aaron Donald but JJ Watt is close! You're missing at least 3 Colts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLfan Posted July 2, 2023 Author Share Posted July 2, 2023 @PRnum1 @Lancer1 Guess who is the best NFL player to wear #17? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLfan Posted July 2, 2023 Author Share Posted July 2, 2023 11 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: Off the top of my head: Best #12 is Tom Brady Best #16 is Joe Montana Best #18 is Peyton Best #32 is Jim Brown Best #22 is Emmitt Smith Best #80 is Jerry Rice Best #56 is Lawrence Taylor Best #21 is Deion Sanders Best #52 is Ray Lewis Best #99 is Aaron Donald but JJ Watt is close! The only one there that you did not get was #21. I agree with you; I would pick Deion over the one chosen. I would pick Paul Krause over Emmitt at #22. I know you are a big fan of Emmitt.. Was your relative a fan of Jim Marshall? He is not in the Hall yet but at least 3 of the Honorable Mentions are in the Hall. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikingsFanInChennai Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 11 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: Off the top of my head: Best #12 is Tom Brady Best #16 is Joe Montana Best #18 is Peyton Best #32 is Jim Brown Best #22 is Emmitt Smith Best #80 is Jerry Rice Best #56 is Lawrence Taylor Best #21 is Deion Sanders Best #52 is Ray Lewis Best #99 is Aaron Donald but JJ Watt is close! #8 Steve Young, my favorite QB of all time, probably because he was a southpaw and elusive on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycolt1 Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 #88- the legendary Marvin Harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 10 hours ago, NFLfan said: You're missing at least 3 Colts. Johnny Unitas #19 Eric Dickerson #29 Marvin Harrison #88 That article has Willie Davis #87. I disagree, I think Reggie Wayne and Travis Kelce were both better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 4 hours ago, NFLfan said: The only one there that you did not get was #21. I agree with you; I would pick Deion over the one chosen. I would pick Paul Krause over Emmitt at #22. I know you are a big fan of Emmitt.. Was your relative a fan of Jim Marshall? He is not in the Hall yet but at least 3 of the Honorable Mentions are in the Hall. Go figure. Jim Marshall should be in the Hall of Fame. He did run the wrong way though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 6 hours ago, NFLfan said: @PRnum1 @Lancer1 Guess who is the best NFL player to wear #17? Did he play for the Chargers and play for us Matt Ryan is the best #2, Too bad he played badly here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLfan Posted July 2, 2023 Author Share Posted July 2, 2023 3 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: Johnny Unitas #19 Eric Dickerson #29 Marvin Harrison #88 That article has Willie Davis #87. I disagree, I think Reggie Wayne and Travis Kelce were both better. Robert Mathis is on the list. There was at least another player from the Baltimore Colts teams. The great Alan Page (Purple People Eaters) was selected for #88. Willie Davis played well before my time, but I hear he was great. Anthony Muñoz or Bruce Smith?? I think they are equal in greatness. Bruce Smith was the pick in the article. The Vikes had many runners up like Paul Krause, Randall McDaniel, Chris Doleman and more. Six Vikings made the list, including Marshall. I know, I know that he ran a ball backwards. That lowlight is hilarious; it happened before I started watching football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLfan Posted July 2, 2023 Author Share Posted July 2, 2023 10 hours ago, crazycolt1 said: #88- the legendary Marvin Harrison Alan Page was #88 chosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikingsFanInChennai Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 7 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: Did he play for the Chargers and play for us Matt Ryan is the best #2, Too bad he played badly here. Duh.... 17 was the number of children he had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 5 hours ago, NFLfan said: Robert Mathis is on the list. There was at least another player from the Baltimore Colts teams. The great Alan Page (Purple People Eaters) was selected for #88. Willie Davis played well before my time, but I hear he was great. Anthony Muñoz or Bruce Smith?? I think they are equal in greatness. Bruce Smith was the pick in the article. The Vikes had many runners up like Paul Krause, Randall McDaniel, Chris Doleman and more. Six Vikings made the list, including Marshall. I know, I know that he ran a ball backwards. That lowlight is hilarious; it happened before I started watching football. Smith was chosen because he is the all-time sacks leader and played in 4 SB's. I can see why they chose him. Personally I would take Munoz because IMO he is the best LT to ever play this game. I consider Larry Allen may be the best overall O.Lineman ever but he played both Tackle and Guard. Munoz was a pure LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holeymoley99 Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 No love for special team players, Justin Tucker best kicker in NFL history not even honorable mention ? Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 3 hours ago, holeymoley99 said: No love for special team players, Justin Tucker best kicker in NFL history not even honorable mention ? Wow Tucker is great but Adam Vinatieri is the GOAT. He has 4 rings and in every BIG playoff games he played in he was one of the reason's why his team won. We don't beat the Ravens without him in 2006, he also had 2 game winning FG's with the Pats in 2001 and 2003 = Super Bowls. The kick he made in the snow/wind vs the Raiders (2001 playoff game) to tie the game from 45 yards was the best kick I have ever seen. It was the conditions and the importance of that kick which made it the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holeymoley99 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 2 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: Tucker is great but Adam Vinatieri is the GOAT. He has 4 rings and in every BIG playoff games he played in he was one of the reason's why his team won. We don't beat the Ravens without him in 2006, he also had 2 game winning FG's with the Pats in 2001 and 2003 = Super Bowls. The kick he made in the snow/wind vs the Raiders (2001 playoff game) to tie the game from 45 yards was the best kick I have ever seen. It was the conditions and the importance of that kick which made it the best. Tucker has the best fg % all time AND also has the longest fg in history so the argument of accuracy vs length goes out the window because finally the same guy has both records. His makes over 50 yards unparalleled, Vinny in his prime was very very good and top 5 for sure BUT Tucker the best and may hold that title for many years to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancer1 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 On 7/1/2023 at 9:27 PM, NFLfan said: @PRnum1 @Lancer1 Guess who is the best NFL player to wear #17? Ryan Tannehill? No wait, Josh Allen, LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 12 hours ago, holeymoley99 said: Tucker has the best fg % all time AND also has the longest fg in history so the argument of accuracy vs length goes out the window because finally the same guy has both records. His makes over 50 yards unparalleled, Vinny in his prime was very very good and top 5 for sure BUT Tucker the best and may hold that title for many years to follow. If you go by % I have no leg to stand on but if I needed 1 kick in the playoffs to save my life, give me Prime Vinny. 2 hours ago, Lancer1 said: Ryan Tannehill? No wait, Josh Allen, LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancer1 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: If you go by % I have no leg to stand on but if I needed 1 kick in the playoffs to save my life, give me Prime Vinny. I would tend to agree - heck his kick that tied the famed "Tuck Rule" Divisional playoff game in Brady's 2nd season and first as a starter was a 45 yarder in the snow with less than a minute remaining, then he won it with a 23 yarder. The Pats beat the Rams in SB XXXVI that year and the rest as they say, is history! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb41champs Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 I agree with Peyton Manning. I agree that Reggie Wayne & Travis Kelce are both better than the one named. 5 hours ago, Lancer1 said: I would tend to agree - heck his kick that tied the famed "Tuck Rule" Divisional playoff game in Brady's 2nd season and first as a starter was a 45 yarder in the snow with less than a minute remaining, then he won it with a 23 yarder. The Pats beat the Rams in SB XXXVI that year and the rest as they say, is history! I concur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holeymoley99 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 8 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: If you go by % I have no leg to stand on but if I needed 1 kick in the playoffs to save my life, give me Prime Vinny. What if that kick to save your life was over 50 yards ? Vinny who only made 45 of 72 or Tucker who has made 57 of 80 ? Vinny played twice as many games yet had less attempts at long distance and worse % (62.3 to 71.2). What is the kicker is over 40 ? Tucker is #1 all time, Vinny is not top 5 Tucker is the most clutch kicker in NFL history 95.4 % in 2nd half and overtime. Tucker is the only player with multiple 60 yard plus to win the game or take the lead. Below are some numbers showing how far ahead of everyone he is. Vinny makes just a single list and down at 5. The numbers are staggering. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/justin-tucker-by-the-numbers-ravens-kicker-is-most-clutch-kicker-in-nfl-history-and-on-pace-to-be-best-ever/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 7 hours ago, holeymoley99 said: What if that kick to save your life was over 50 yards ? Vinny who only made 45 of 72 or Tucker who has made 57 of 80 ? Vinny played twice as many games yet had less attempts at long distance and worse % (62.3 to 71.2). What is the kicker is over 40 ? Tucker is #1 all time, Vinny is not top 5 Tucker is the most clutch kicker in NFL history 95.4 % in 2nd half and overtime. Tucker is the only player with multiple 60 yard plus to win the game or take the lead. Below are some numbers showing how far ahead of everyone he is. Vinny makes just a single list and down at 5. The numbers are staggering. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/justin-tucker-by-the-numbers-ravens-kicker-is-most-clutch-kicker-in-nfl-history-and-on-pace-to-be-best-ever/ I get % wise that Tucker is the best, but in the playoffs/SBs when Vinny was in his prime he made the biggest clutch kicks in NFL history. That can't be ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Hammonds Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 They're gonna rate Alan Faneca above the immortal Ray Nitschke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 31 minutes ago, John Hammonds said: They're gonna rate Alan Faneca above the immortal Ray Nitschke? They took Ladainian Tomlinson over Deion Sanders to wear #21. Although great, Tomlinson isn't even a Top 5 RB of all-time. Deion Sanders is the best Cover Corner ever to live + a great PR as well. I think someone had a brain fart there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLfan Posted July 4, 2023 Author Share Posted July 4, 2023 17 hours ago, holeymoley99 said: What if that kick to save your life was over 50 yards ? Vinny who only made 45 of 72 or Tucker who has made 57 of 80 ? Vinny played twice as many games yet had less attempts at long distance and worse % (62.3 to 71.2). What is the kicker is over 40 ? Tucker is #1 all time, Vinny is not top 5 Tucker is the most clutch kicker in NFL history 95.4 % in 2nd half and overtime. Tucker is the only player with multiple 60 yard plus to win the game or take the lead. Below are some numbers showing how far ahead of everyone he is. Vinny makes just a single list and down at 5. The numbers are staggering. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/justin-tucker-by-the-numbers-ravens-kicker-is-most-clutch-kicker-in-nfl-history-and-on-pace-to-be-best-ever/ They are both great. I believe that those who are not Colts, Pats, and Ravens fans would most likely select Tucker. Tucker has not had as many opportunities in the Super Bowl as Vinatieri. You cannot take away AV's Super Bowl achievements but as for more gifted, Tucker probably would be the pick for most. Both are great -- I wish I had one of them. The list needs a punter. Too bad Ray Guy's number was #8. Steve Young was the pick and all would agree. 1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: They took Ladainian Tomlinson over Deion Sanders to wear #21. Although great, Tomlinson isn't even a Top 5 RB of all-time. Deion Sanders is the best Cover Corner ever to live + a great PR as well. I think someone had a brain fart there. I love Revis but I would have chosen Charles Woodson over Revis at #24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 On 7/1/2023 at 11:32 AM, 2006Coltsbestever said: Off the top of my head: Best #12 is Tom Brady Best #16 is Joe Montana Best #18 is Peyton Best #32 is Jim Brown Best #22 is Emmitt Smith Best #80 is Jerry Rice Best #56 is Lawrence Taylor Best #21 is Deion Sanders Best #52 is Ray Lewis Best #99 is Aaron Donald but JJ Watt is close! Best #4 is Adam Vinatieri, Favre had more longevity than clutch factor when compared to Vinatieri, IMO, Vinatieri had both. That’s my reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w87r Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 3 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: Tomlinson isn't even a Top 5 RB of all-time He might not make your list, but his achievements are well within the realm of being top 5. One of the most well rounded backs to ever play. 3rd all time in total TDs(2nd highest RB) 3rd all time in most receptions by a RB 7th all time in rush yards 10th all time in receiving yards by RB 6th all time in yards from scrimmage(5th highest RB) #5 on football reference HoF rating https://www.pro-football-reference.com/hof/hofm_RB.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holeymoley99 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 6 hours ago, NFLfan said: They are both great. I believe that those who are not Colts, Pats, and Ravens fans would most likely select Tucker. Tucker has not had as many opportunities in the Super Bowl as Vinatieri. You cannot take away AV's Super Bowl achievements but as for more gifted, Tucker probably would be the pick for most. Both are great -- I wish I had one of them. The list needs a punter. Too bad Ray Guy's number was #8. Steve Young was the pick and all would agree. I love Revis but I would have chosen Charles Woodson over Revis at #24. Agreed remove the Colts,Pats,Ravens fans and Tucker is the overwhelming pick based on far superior numbers. As you said Tucker hasnt had the opportunities because hasnt play for as many gifted teams. Vinny will go down as top 5 by many,Tucker will go down as #1 by the majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikingsFanInChennai Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 On 7/1/2023 at 7:51 PM, NFLfan said: Guess how many Colts are listed? Who are they? (Best NFL player to ever wear #18 is _____________). There is one Colt player listed that I never heard of. His playing career ended in the late 1990s. Anyone know? Also: Who is the best NFL player to ever wear #99? J.J. Watt, Warren Sapp, Jason Taylor, DeForest Buckner, Aaron Donald, Dan Hampton, Mark Gastineau, anyone else? (Some elite players there!) https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/lists/best-nfl-player-jersey-number-tom-brady-aaron-donald/ Just read the article up to #18, LOL... Considering that Cutler, Watson and Carr got honorable mention, Justin Jefferson could've been mentioned as well... Have to say, as usual, the list is more skewed in favor of QBs. Would've had Davantae Adams at #17.. At least, the list isn't all about who won more trophies. Too bad lot of great QBs had #12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLfan Posted July 5, 2023 Author Share Posted July 5, 2023 18 hours ago, VikingsFanInChennai said: Have to say, as usual, the list is more skewed in favor of QBs. Would've had Davantae Adams at #17.. At least, the list isn't all about who won more trophies. I am a huge fan of #17, since his days at NC State. I don't think Adams is greater. At least, not yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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