Jay Kirk Baseball Thread since 2017: The 2021 season, Dodgers Repeat?

[2006Coltsbestever]

We dont have it tonight. We are going to lose. Swinging at dumb pitches.

[2006Coltsbestever]

To add insult to injury, we will probably hit a HR with nobody on in the 9th and lose 2-1 

[2006Coltsbestever]

It's bed time, good night everyone. Congrats on the win tonight Jay. We got through the week playing at Milwaukee and at St Louis and still remain only .5 out of 1st so I cant complain. Our schedule was rough this week. 

[dgambill]

17 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

That's a fair assessment but I cant give a team an A+ that doesnt even have a better record than the 1st Wildcard team. Yankees have the best record in the league so IMO the team that has the best record deserves an A+. 

 

-You are basing your grades totally on expectation. Dodgers are now only 1.5 games out of 1st place so a C+ is reasonable as they have struggled but are playing Good now. I gave the Braves a B+ which is a borderline Great grade IMO. 

I guess we are grading off of two different measurements. I’m grading off expectations and standings and you are just basically ranking off standings. If I’m a Braves fan, player, or owner I’m would’ve give this season an A+. It’s gone great. If I’m the Dodgers I have to be disappointed. We aren’t even in first place in a weak division. C- is generous. If I’m a Yankee fan I’m happy to be in first but can’t say the season has been perfect...they have some glaring holes in that staff...and strike outs a lot...that is scary come September. Just like the Cubs...these shutouts are scary if it continues. You can’t hsve that happening once September either.

[2006Coltsbestever]

9 minutes ago, dgambill said:

I guess we are grading off of two different measurements. I’m grading off expectations and standings and you are just basically ranking off standings. If I’m a Braves fan, player, or owner I’m would’ve give this season an A+. It’s gone great. If I’m the Dodgers I have to be disappointed. We aren’t even in first place in a weak division. C- is generous. If I’m a Yankee fan I’m happy to be in first but can’t say the season has been perfect...they have some glaring holes in that staff...and strike outs a lot...that is scary come September. Just like the Cubs...these shutouts are scary if it continues. You can’t hsve that happening once September either.

I see your point because nobody thought the Braves would be Good and that the Dodgers would be much better so I may re-think my grades next time I evaluate. I did base my grades alot on standings but I did factor in on how Good I think these teams are as well. I just don't see the Braves as an A+ team. Nobody thought the Pacers would win more than 32 games in the media and they won 48 and took LeBron 7 but to me that isn't an A+ season IMO. It's in the B range = B+ to B- based on alot of factors. We shocked the media and our fans because we were much better than everyone expected but we still didn't win 50 games, were a 5 Seed, and lost in Round 1. So alot of factors go into grading. 

[dgambill]

3 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I see your point because nobody thought the Braves would be Good and that the Dodgers would be much better so I may re-think my grades next time I evaluate. I did base my grades alot on standings but I did factor in on how Good I think these teams are as well. I just don't see the Braves as an A+ team. Nobody thought the Pacers would win more than 32 games in the media and they won 48 and took LeBron 7 but to me that isn't an A+ season IMO. It's in the B range = B+ to B- based on alot of factors. We shocked the media and our fans because we were much better than everyone expected but we still didn't win 50 games, were a 5 Seed, and lost in Round 1. So alot of factors go into grading. 

I get what your saying...good point. Guess if I was to go with  report card system then I would give the Braves perhaps a B+....but that’s great if your notmaally a D student lol. Anyways expectations have been exceeded (thus far) by the Braves. I would say Yanks and Cubs have work to do even though they are both statistically in first place or tied or .5 game up or behind...whatever it is today you like your position but there are some warning signs for sure. As for Dodgers you have played awful and injuries etc etc but your right in the race...so while you haven’t achieved well...guess they are grading on the curve out there and it doesn’t look so bad lol.

[2006Coltsbestever]

30 minutes ago, dgambill said:

I get what your saying...good point. Guess if I was to go with  report card system then I would give the Braves perhaps a B+....but that’s great if your notmaally a D student lol. Anyways expectations have been exceeded (thus far) by the Braves. I would say Yanks and Cubs have work to do even though they are both statistically in first place or tied or .5 game up or behind...whatever it is today you like your position but there are some warning signs for sure. As for Dodgers you have played awful and injuries etc etc but your right in the race...so while you haven’t achieved well...guess they are grading on the curve out there and it doesn’t look so bad lol.

Yeah what is bothersome about the Cubs is our Offense shuts down on certain days and I cant figure out why? We will have 2 games in a row where we score 8-10 Runs or so then turn around and score 0. We have been shut out in 3 of the last 5 games, that isn't a good sign. We have the best point differential in the whole NL but yet the Brewers have a better record by a half game. IMO, Maddon needs to stick with a same lineup but he doesn't. He changes it every other day. I like Almora leading off, Heyward batting 2nd, Bryant 3rd, and Rizzo at clean up.

 

-Regarding the Dodgers they shockingly started off the season 15-25 through their 1st 40 games and Kershaw has missed most of the season. They are 22-8 over their last 30 and went from 9 games back to 1.5 back behind the D-Backs. Even without Kershaw they will win that weak Division IMO. The D-Backs are Good but have shown to have major flaws as of late. The Giants aren't the same team they were 3 or 4 years ago either nor is Bumgarner the same Pitcher. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

Brewers lost, so the Cubs are tied for 1st again %points ahead of the Brewers. Cubs are in a rain delay at the moment, when doesn't it rain in Chicago  

[2006Coltsbestever]

Cards just lost to the Phillies, so they are now at 37-33, 4 games behind the Cubs. Cubs are still in a rain delay vs the Dodgers. As of now the Division looks like this:

Cubs 40-28

Brewers 42-30

Cards 37-33

[2006Coltsbestever]

Cubs game Postponed. They didn't even have to play to move back into 1st place  

[2006Coltsbestever]

Cubs had a 3-1 lead and the Bullpen cant hold it. 4-3 Dodgers now lead. They just let Kyle Farmer beat them with a base hit if they don't rally in the 9th. What a suck way to lose.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Dodgers win, they were 1-29 when trailing going into the 9th, Cubs were 34-1 when leading LOL. Always something with this team. Boooooooo. Game 2 tonight.

[HOZER]

1 more strike was all Wilson needed....1 more stinkin strike! 

 

And all those runners left stranded! 

[2006Coltsbestever]

0-0 in the Top of 6th in Game 2. No Bats so far this evening. Brewers are up 3-0 in their game (they will probably win) so we need a win to stay a Half game back.

[2006Coltsbestever]

There it is, Cubs win Cubs win! 2-1 in the 10th Inning. Nice bounce back from earlier. Fly the flag Gozer.

[HOZER]

Almora and Bryant get us a W in the 10th!!!

[2006Coltsbestever]

19 minutes ago, GOZER said:

Almora and Bryant get us a W in the 10th!!!

That was a big win after losing the way we lost earlier today. We basically won tonight like they did today. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

Cubs win, win the rubber match against the Dodgers to take the series 2-1. Once again in 1st place by %points over the Brewers in the NL Central. Brewers play later tonight at Pittsburgh.

[2006Coltsbestever]

How about this, if the season ended today the Cubs would be the #1 Seed in the NL based on %points. Top 3 teams are:

Cubs 42-29 .592

Braves 43-30 .589

Brewers 43-30 .589

-Brewers got rained out tonight and start a 4 game series with the Cards tomorrow. Cubs travel to Cincy and start a 4 game series tomorrow. Huge series for the Cards to gain some ground in the NL Central. NL Central Standings are:

Cubs 42-29

Brewers 43-30

Cards 38-34

[2006Coltsbestever]

I will say this, if the Cubs somehow win the WS this season, the Cub Haters will probably croak. That would be 2 in 3 years and 4 straight NLCS appearances   

[HOZER]

Missed the game but kept tabs on phone, Love it when we’re on the other end of a shutout!!!!!

 

 

 

[2006Coltsbestever]

16 minutes ago, GOZER said:

Missed the game but kept tabs on phone, Love it when we’re on the other end of a shutout!!!!!

 

 

 

I love it when we are in 1st place at the end of the night because the BrewCrew are very very pesky!

[PuntersArePeopleToo]

On 6/19/2018 at 3:47 PM, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Cubs had a 3-1 lead and the Bullpen cant hold it. 4-3 Dodgers now lead. They just let Kyle Farmer beat them with a base hit if they don't rally in the 9th. What a suck way to lose.

Key problem is that home plate ump. I talked to a Dodger fan today he agreed that ump was terribly inconsistent. Turner Struckout before his single and they called it a ball. The walk before was borderline pitches. They were called earlier than ump stopped. Either call wide zone or tight dont just say randomly each pitch

[PuntersArePeopleToo]

Morrow also out with Back spasms from taking off pants. DL and cannot comeback until next Tuesday

[2006Coltsbestever]

From an historical standpoint, we have 3 teams in the AL that are on pace to have a better record than the 2016 Cubs. Cubs have the best record of the decade out of teams that have won the WS at 103-58. The teams being the Yankees 50-22, Redsox 50-26, and Astros 50-26. Watch this will be the season where the Indians get completely healthy, don't choke and win the WS. They will wipe all of those teams out . That is why I love Baseball because that could happen with the Roster and Manager the Indians have + they have been Very Good to Great the 2 previous seasons. They are only 40-33 right now but will win their Division because it's weak. So automatically they will be a 3 Seed at worse to start.

[HOZER]

Game 1: Harvey and the Reds got us last night, that Winker grand slam in the sixth hurt.

 

Game 2: Cubs Were just up 3-1, now down 4-3, bottom 5th. Ugh.

[HOZER]

And Reds get another win. This team sometimes 

[2006Coltsbestever]

7 hours ago, GOZER said:

And Reds get another win. This team sometimes 

Yeah we have hit a little snag . Our BullPen has issues right now. We need to get these next 2 games just to break even in this series. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

It's really tough in Baseball to sustain greatness for a long period of time. I still believe it's without doubt the hardest sport to win a Championship in. It takes not only being Great but alot of luck to win a WS. Look at the Braves during the 90's for example, they only won 1 WS and were a dominant team that whole decade. Cubs have lost several players from their 2016 WS Championship team but to their credit they still look like a team that will make the Playoffs for the 4th straight season. The NL isn't as strong as the AL so making a 4th straight NLCS or even another WS is 50/50 as of now IMO for the Cubs. The way Baseball is, once you make the WS anything can happen. I have seen Wildcard teams win it against teams that were much more dominant in the Regular Season. 

[HOZER]

[2006Coltsbestever]

40 minutes ago, GOZER said:

I think it's a freakin nightmare. I thought it was cute yesterday losing 2 in a row to these guys but to lay 3 eggs in a row is nuts!

[2006Coltsbestever]

Cubs are puzzling, one week they look like world beaters then the next week they make the Reds look like the 1998 Yankees 

[2006Coltsbestever]

At least the BrewCrew lost, Cubs still only 2 games out of 1st in the NL Central despite this disaster of a series. 

[NFLfan]

1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I think it's a freakin nightmare. I thought it was cute yesterday losing 2 in a row to these guys but to lay 3 eggs in a row is nuts!

 

Playing down to their competition?  

[2006Coltsbestever]

12 hours ago, NFLfan said:

 

Playing down to their competition?  

Yep. The Cubs looked bored. Hard to stay motivated for 162 games after winning a WS. That 103 win season will never happen again so I need to accept that, they were hungry then. Going all the way back when your Mets won it all in 1986 at 108-54, and only the Yankees in 1998 at 114-48 had a better record since 1986 than the 2016 Cubs at 103-58 that won the WS. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

Go Cubs! Get a win today and get a Brewers loss, then we are only 1 game out of 1st in the NL Central. Sounds good about now after the way we have played the last 3 days.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Out of our slump baby! A 5 run 5th Inning for the Cubs, take that Cincy and your lucky stinkin Grand Slams! 5-0 Cubs lead to the Bottom of the 5th. I was thinking no way we lose today, if so that would've been Twilight Zone material.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Reds best team of all-time LOL. I give up, it's not our weekend.

[NFLfan]

9 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Reds best team of all-time LOL. I give up, it's not our weekend.

 What happened?

[2006Coltsbestever]

9 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 What happened?

Our BullPen happened. This whole series has been a nightmare. Cant even win with a 5 run lead. I haven't seen a team as bad as the Reds get so many Grandslams in 1 series. It's comical. Winker hit another one, AKA Henry Winker, that is the Fonz isn't it? I have never heard of the guy until this series. They also had a guy name Lorenzen who is a Pitcher, Pinch Hit and he hit a HR too, never heard of him either. Reds now lead 8-6 in the 8th.