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6 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

The autobahn has a lower death rate than the US has on our interstates per 1 billion miles driven.  There are large portions of the autobahn with no speed limit. Speed isn't the issue.  Being careless is

The autobahn and 65/465 is not even comparable.

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Oh the sanctimony!

 

Obviously driving 100MPH is wrong. No one is excusing it. It's also not the worst thing in the world, and doesn't make the person a monster. Just because everyone doesn't share your outrage doesn't mean they are okay with what Moore did. Please be careful stepping down off that morally elevated soapbox.

 

Sio Moore is a dummy for doing this. It makes me question his intelligence and maturity. It probably explains why the Raiders traded him for a song, and might even shed light on why he didn't get the playing time we thought he should have as a Colt.

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2 minutes ago, csmopar said:

I am not saying it is.  I'm not making excuses at all for Sio, he was wrong, he got caught, he got ticketed and he'll go to court to get his just dues.

 

my entire comment about the accuracy of speedos was in direct response to your claim of never having been over 70 mph.  Had nothing whatsoever to do with Sio Moore. at all.

Fine, I have nothing more to say about this. I think we're as far as we need to be.

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3 minutes ago, Superman said:

Oh the sanctimony!

 

Obviously driving 100MPH is wrong. No one is excusing it. It's also not the worst thing in the world, and doesn't make the person a monster. Just because everyone doesn't share your outrage doesn't mean they are okay with what Moore did. Please be careful stepping down off that morally elevated soapbox.

 

Sio Moore is a dummy for doing this. It makes me question his intelligence and maturity. It probably explains why the Raiders traded him for a song, and might even shed light on why he didn't get the playing time we thought he should have as a Colt.

Morally elevated soapbox? So because I don't want to drive with people going 100 MPH on the highway makes me morally elevated? I figured that makes me normal, but this thread is showing me the problems that are out there on the road today. I'm just shocked to hear they are in the friendly Colts forum. 

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7 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

What a ridiculous post.

Most normal people don't defend this, and most of the earlier posts were saying "no big deal" "nothing major". The exact wrong thing with this world, excusing athletes when they do something wrong. Just because no one died doesn't mean 45 miles an hour over isn't terrible. He wasn't even drunk, so he thought about it and decided it was ok before doing it. What's worse is you guys live in INDY where he is doing this. You are susceptible to being hit by him. I'm from Colorado and I'm the one that cares.

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14 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

That's not always true. There are a lot of things that can happen that make speed dangerous that you can't control. A car could pull out in front of you, a pedestrian could randomly cross the street, you could hit something in the middle of the road, the roads could be wet and slippery, even stop lights could force you to suddenly slow down. There are a lot of times where you aren't careless, but your speed could get you into an accident if you can't slow down in time.

Again,    you are talking about neighborhood driving,   not interstate driving 

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7 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Morally elevated soapbox? So because I don't want to drive with people going 100 MPH on the highway makes me morally elevated? I figured that makes me normal, but this thread is showing me the problems that are out there on the road today. I'm just shocked to hear they are in the friendly Colts forum. 

If you drive on the interstate,  you are indeed driving with people going 100+ miles per hour.

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Let me ask you guys this, since I'm the bad guy for being on a morally high ground here, and I don't break the law or do stupid things like smoke, drink and do drugs and have never cared to do them, what makes you guys want to do this stuff? Is it peer pressure? Is it that you want to see what will happen when you break the law? Does it give you a rush of adrenaline? Do you just want to do what is popular? Tell me what and help me get inside the mind of a normal person since I seem to be out of style here on my stance and my lifestyle.

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2 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Most normal people don't defend this, and most of the earlier posts were saying "no big deal" "nothing major". The exact wrong thing with this world, excusing athletes when they do something wrong. Just because no one died doesn't mean 45 miles an hour over isn't terrible. He wasn't even drunk, so he thought about it and decided it was ok before doing it. What's worse is you guys live in INDY where he is doing this. You are susceptible to being hit by him. I'm from Colorado and I'm the one that cares.

Him being an athlete has nothing to do with it.  He got the very same ticket any joe smoe civilian driving down the interstate at 100 mph would have gotten.  I say this with a law enforcement background.  He got EXACTLY what any other person in this world would have gotten in the exact same situation.  He didn't get off scott free and I've not seen a single person say he should.....

 

Sir, I know you're from Colorado and pot is legal out there, but you're not supposed to drink the bong water......

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Just now, Jared Cisneros said:

Let me ask you guys this, since I'm the bad guy for being on a morally high ground here, and I don't break the law or do stupid things like smoke, drink and do drugs and have never cared to do them, what makes you guys want to do this stuff? Is it peer pressure? Is it that you want to see what will happen when you break the law? Does it give you a rush of adrenaline? Do you just want to do what is popular? Tell me what and help me get inside the mind of a normal person since I seem to be out of style here on my stance and my lifestyle.

When I speed,  it's usually because I want to get there faster 

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Just now, jvan1973 said:

If you drive on the interstate,  you are indeed driving with people going 100+ miles per hour.

No one has ever drove 100 in colorado when I've been on the road. I've gone to the casino 200 times in the last 10 years and that has never happened on the way.

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Just now, Jared Cisneros said:

No one has ever drove 100 in colorado when I've been on the road. I've gone to the casino 200 times in the last 10 years and that has never happened on the way.

Lmao.  Um yes you have.     100 MPH isn't nearly as unheard of as you seem to think it is

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1 minute ago, csmopar said:

Him being an athlete has nothing to do with it.  He got the very same ticket any joe smoe civilian driving down the interstate at 100 mph would have gotten.  I say this with a law enforcement background.  He got EXACTLY what any other person in this world would have gotten in the exact same situation.  He didn't get off scott free and I've not seen a single person say he should.....

 

Sir, I know you're from Colorado and pot is legal out there, but you're not supposed to drink the bong water......

I don't do pot, stuff is disgusting. In fact, I tell my GF if she does it, I'll break up with her.

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Just now, jvan1973 said:

Lmao.  Um yes you have.     100 MPH isn't nearly as unheard of as you seem to think it is

Sorry, I don't buy that. You won't convince me of that at all. It might happen in indy from time to time with you being a racecar city, but the only time it would happen here is if someone was speeding. It probably has happened, but it's not natural traffic speed, and I've never seen anyone speed past me that fast while going there.

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2 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

Lmao.  Um yes you have.     100 MPH isn't nearly as unheard of as you seem to think it is

 

3 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

No one has ever drove 100 in colorado when I've been on the road. I've gone to the casino 200 times in the last 10 years and that has never happened on the way.

 

 

Haha...I see someone doing 100 dang near every time I'm on the interstate, and I've traveled through 39 of the 50 states.....New Jersey is by far the worst at it, dang near all of them drive 100 plus.

 

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Just now, Jared Cisneros said:

Sorry, I don't buy that. You won't convince me of that at all. It might happen in indy from time to time with you being a racecar city, but the only time it would happen here is if someone was speeding. It probably has happened, but it's not natural traffic speed, and I've never seen anyone speed past me that fast while going there.

Of coarse they would be speeding.  Duh.  It happens on every interstate in the country everyday.   

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5 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Sorry, I don't buy that. You won't convince me of that at all. It might happen in indy from time to time with you being a racecar city, but the only time it would happen here is if someone was speeding. It probably has happened, but it's not natural traffic speed, and I've never seen anyone speed past me that fast while going there.

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6 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Sorry, I don't buy that. You won't convince me of that at all. It might happen in indy from time to time with you being a racecar city, but the only time it would happen here is if someone was speeding. It probably has happened, but it's not natural traffic speed, and I've never seen anyone speed past me that fast while going there.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/have-you-seen-people-driving-100-mph-colorado-state-patrol-troops-have

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8 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Sorry, I don't buy that. You won't convince me of that at all. It might happen in indy from time to time with you being a racecar city, but the only time it would happen here is if someone was speeding. It probably has happened, but it's not natural traffic speed, and I've never seen anyone speed past me that fast while going there.

 

 

Just so you know, I just looked it up in CODUS,  there were 78357 speeding tickets issued last year in Colorado on the interstates.  Of those, 14,105 were is excess of 100 mph.......

 

 

 

Checkmate.

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Just now, csmopar said:

 

 

Just so you know, I just looked it up in CODUS,  there were 78357 speeding tickets issued last year in Colorado on the interstates.  Of those, 14,105 were is excess of 100 mph.......

 

 

 

Checkmate.

Ok, I said It happened when people were speeding. 

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5 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Sorry, I don't buy that. You won't convince me of that at all. It might happen in indy from time to time with you being a racecar city, but the only time it would happen here is if someone was speeding. It probably has happened, but it's not natural traffic speed, and I've never seen anyone speed past me that fast while going there.

Sure you do. Whenever you pass someone that's probably already going (5-10 mph over ) you are in fact travelling at 100 or perhaps faster a few seconds. How else do you think you pass them so fast? The speedometer won't be accurate enough to catch such an acceleration and display it to you.  A 1mph difference would take a loooong time to actually pass someone quickly enough. Or if you don't pass people /casually go 5-10 over the posted speed limit like the rest of us then Just look at your fellow drivers. 

 

Also, you Or maybe another poster (?) saying that no stretch of highway is ever empty enough to go 100, night or day... I have a story. 

Back when I was a youngin and moved to Canada, eh, from Argentina my dad was a truck driver for a furniture company and he'd take me with him all the time. I can tell you that in the ams, and even just past dark maaaany highways/interstates are completely empty. Same goes for when we moved down to the states. 

 

No one is justifying his speeding, we're just saying it's a non issue because it happens more times than you can think. Yeah you've been personally affected by a * driving but it was in a completely different scenario and you shouldn't let your emotions play a role in judging your fellow man. 

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2 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Yep, and they were speeding. 

Of coarse they were speeding. WTH are you talking about?   There isn't a 100 mph speed limit anywhere in the US.  You said people in colorado don't drive 100 mph.  The Denver PD had 12 in the month of August alone.  And they didn't get close to catching them all

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32 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Morally elevated soapbox? So because I don't want to drive with people going 100 MPH on the highway makes me morally elevated? I figured that makes me normal, but this thread is showing me the problems that are out there on the road today. I'm just shocked to hear they are in the friendly Colts forum. 

 

28 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Most normal people don't defend this, and most of the earlier posts were saying "no big deal" "nothing major". The exact wrong thing with this world, excusing athletes when they do something wrong. Just because no one died doesn't mean 45 miles an hour over isn't terrible. He wasn't even drunk, so he thought about it and decided it was ok before doing it. What's worse is you guys live in INDY where he is doing this. You are susceptible to being hit by him. I'm from Colorado and I'm the one that cares.

 

No. The sanctimony comes from you acting like everyone who disagrees with you is a criminal or criminal sympathizer. That's actually more offensive to me than Sio Moore breaking the speed limit. (By the way, I don't live in Indy, but that's neither here nor there.)

 

Your 'I've never driven above 70MPH' is especially laughable. Major interstates have speed limits of 80MPH (some at 85MPH) for long stretches. Those are unlit highways in the middle of the desert. I think Colorado's max is 75, but if you go south and take I40 across the country, you'll find lots of people doing 80+, and speeders doing close to or above 100 at times. Most people who have taken a road trip in the last ten years have done 80 or more. 

 

Long and short, just because people aren't willing to strap him to the chair for speeding doesn't mean they are criminals themselves. That's just a nonsensical thing to say. The point is that there are a lot worse things a guy could do than reckless driving, and I don't need to make a list. That doesn't mean anyone condones reckless driving, and I think you probably know that. You're just overreacting, and it looks bad.

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2 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Ok, I said It happened when people were speeding. 

Lol. Obviously going 100 in a 55, 60, 70 zone is speeding... 

 

To add on to my other post. In Arizona off the superstitious mountain, on the AZ-88 the speed is like 75, and I would frequently do 85 just to keep Pace with traffic. I don't think it's too hard  think that some people were going 100+

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1 minute ago, Gabriel Alexander Morillo said:

Sure you do. Whenever you pass someone that's probably already going (5-10 mph over ) you are in fact travelling at 100 or perhaps faster a few seconds. How else do you think you pass them so fast? The speedometer won't be accurate enough to catch such an acceleration and display it to you.  A 1mph difference would take a loooong time to actually pass someone quickly enough. Or if you don't pass people /casually go 5-10 over the posted speed limit like the rest of us then Just look at your fellow drivers. 

 

Also, you Or maybe another poster (?) saying that no stretch of highway is ever empty enough to go 100, night or day... I have a story. 

Back when I was a youngin and moved to Canada, eh, from Argentina my dad was a truck driver for a furniture company and he'd take me with him all the time. I can tell you that in the ams, and even just past dark maaaany highways/interstates are completely empty. Same goes for when we moved down to the states. 

 

No one is justifying his speeding, we're just saying it's a non issue because it happens more times than you can think. Yeah you've been personally affected by a * driving but it was in a completely different scenario and you shouldn't let your emotions play a role in judging your fellow man. 

I believe you, also I don't hate Sio, the situation just annoys me. At least he stopped, but what upsets me is he was doing it in a right mind. I don't understand what makes people do these things, as they've never crossed my mind. I'm squeaky clean, to a fault, and I'm being brutally honest here. I just want to know why someone would do that and what makes him do that.

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1 minute ago, Jared Cisneros said:

I believe you, also I don't hate Sio, the situation just annoys me. At least he stopped, but what upsets me is he was doing it in a right mind. I don't understand what makes people do these things, as they've never crossed my mind. I'm squeaky clean, to a fault, and I'm being brutally honest here. I just want to know why someone would do that and what makes him do that.

Itd be worse if he was drunk because then he'd legitimately have his reactions severely impaired and increased risk of getting into an accident. 

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1 minute ago, Superman said:

 

Didn't know that about you. I hope you're doing okay. And sorry to hear about your loss.

Yeah, I go overboard a lot, and I apologize for that. When I get into a conversation that turns into an argument, I have a hard time backing down. When other people back down, then I can back down as well and start to talk it out. It's a difficult thing for me. I appreciate your condolences as well, a touchy subject for me.

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1 minute ago, Gabriel Alexander Morillo said:

Itd be worse if he was drunk because then he'd legitimately have his reactions severely impaired and increased risk of getting into an accident. 

That is true. Just looking deep into it, I hold people to a high standard, and I should cut them some rope. I've been protected a lot of my life by my parents, and was able to live there until I was able to buy a house. I've probably had it easier than most. I'll try to take it easy on people more often. We're supposed to be friends here, so I'll do as such and be nice.

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5 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

I just want to know why someone would do that and what makes him do that.

 

Most young guys like to drive fast. I don't know what kind of car he was driving, but I bet it has some giddy up to it. It was probably just poor judgment for the sake of a thrill.

 

This is especially true of athletes in the offseason, IMO. He's used to getting a certain amount of adrenaline pumping every week (well, maybe not last year). This is not a good reason at all, but I could see him just having been bored and wanting to drive fast for a couple minutes. It's not uncommon at all.

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The interstates around here have posted speed limits of 65MPH and 70MPH. Although, it is technically breaking the law but a vast majority will go faster than the 70MPH speed limit. I'm not going to lie, I usually do about 5-10MPH over on the highways but on normal roads with intersections I try to stay the speed limit or a couple over. If you're careless and weaving in and out of heavy traffic like Sio was doing, then he deserves whatever punishment is coming his way. However, speeding on an interstate and staying in your lane without weaving in and out around cars isn't necessarily something god awful. I've opened up a couple of my cars to 100MPH on the interstate but only for a few seconds without traffic around within sight. It's not good to do, but it shouldn't label you prison fodder. 

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4 hours ago, Nadine said:

It's true that we've all done it.  I was on 294 driving through Chicago recently.  Speed limit was 60 and I was driving 75 and getting my doors blown off.  It's like the autobahn up there.  Driving more slowly puts you at risk like a tractor on the expressway is not a good idea.

 

However, 100 is really high.  Not sure my car can go that fast and I'm not sure regular car should.  Most people never drive that fast.

 

I do wish they would find a way to enforce speed limits on 65 and 465.  Accidents all the time  it's dangerous and generally speaking I avoid them as best I can

 

My car can go up to 160, but you get pulled over for going 5 over in Jersey. It's stupid to go that fast, but it's not worth getting cut over if that does happen

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Just now, Jared Cisneros said:

Yeah, I go overboard a lot, and I apologize for that. When I get into a conversation that turns into an argument, I have a hard time backing down. When other people back down, then I can back down as well and start to talk it out. It's a difficult thing for me. I appreciate your condolences as well, a touchy subject for me.

 

You'll learn to back down because not everyone will , I fly around speeding most of the time to get around what I perceive as the stupid people on the road the turtles out for a sunday cruise get left in the dust I had 1 speeding ticket last year first time in years you want to know why because everyone speeds the problem is the turtles who try to slow everyone else down .

 

IMO  after reading post after post is you might be a lil bit of a drama queen .

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1 hour ago, Jared Cisneros said:

You are wrong, if you go the speed limit at 55, you are more protected. It's put at 55 to protect the driver, traffic around him or her, and pedestrians nearby. When you are going 100, you can't stop in time if another car is close and pulls in front of you, or if someone crosses the street suddenly. You are much likely more to hit them. When you are going 55 on a highway, you can usually slow down because there isn't wall to wall traffic and you can control the car. Whether it's a highway, a residential area, a school zone, or something else, the speed limit is a fit for the unique situation of the area you are in. You have a much better chance of survival if you go those limits and crash or hit someone else. 

 

It's nice to know you are for going 45 over and give the excuse of seatbelts. You want to go 100 MPH, go to the Indy racetrack and rent a racecar. I know Sio could do that if he wanted. It's also bad that Sio wasn't drunk when he did it. That means he was in the right mind, thought about doing it, decided it was okay, and still did it. You may drive in a different country, but the laws there probably don't allow you to put other lives in danger. Maybe you're just a bad person.

Nobody walks on the highway and you only hit high speeds when no one is in front of you. 

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