Tom Brady plays pick up basketball with MJ

[amfootball]

Good call. And by the way, companies and people care about brand for financial reasons. To make money. Who has made more e money? Jordan. Stop spewing please.

I was never talking about money though. Brady could have more money but turns down tons of offers. We were talking about global recognition which is not tied to making money at all ...

[radiogirl]

I was never talking about money though. Brady could have more money but turns down tons of offers. We were talking about global recognition which is not tied to making money at all ...

R you his agent now? If he turns down offers that's his choice but brands are built and cultivated for money. Period.

[Jay Kirk]

I was never talking about money though. Brady could have more money but turns down tons of offers. We were talking about global recognition which is not tied to making money at all ...

Im sure all the stars mentioned have turned down plenty of offers for diff reasons.

[BrentMc11]

I was never talking about money though. Brady could have more money but turns down tons of offers. We were talking about global recognition which is not tied to making money at all ...

Ask all of the kids in China who they know in China.  The entire world, especially China...Everyone knows Michael Jordan.  Since he has been a brand since Since the 1st Air Jordans hit the shelves in 1984.

[Jay Kirk]

Ask all of the kids in China who they know in China.  The entire world, especially China...Everyone knows Michal Jordan.  Since he has been a brand since Since the 1st Air Jordans hit the shelves in 1984.

Good point.

[amfootball]

R you his agent now? If he turns down offers that's his choice but brands are built and cultivated for money. Period.

It has been widely reported the deals he has turned down. Brands are cultivated for money but brand is not achieved by how much money one makes. Brand is influence not how many products a person sells ...

[amfootball]

Ask all of the kids in China who they know in China.  The entire world, especially China...Everyone knows Michal Jordan.  Since he has been a brand since Since the 1st Air Jordans hit the shelves in 1984.

Are you saying China does not know Brady?

[Jay Kirk]

Are you saying China does not know Brady?

Don't know do they ?

[radiogirl]

It has been widely reported the deals he has turned down. Brands are cultivated for money but brand is not achieved by how much money one makes. Brand is influence not how many products a person sells ...

And brand influence sells product, you silly girl. It's all comes down to money whether you see it or not.

[BrentMc11]

Are you saying China does not know Brady?

Football is soccer in China.  Basketball is king....Yao Ming was a major player in China's vast interest too.

 

NFL football is not huge in China....YET.  I am sure they know him more for his wife than the Super Bowl.

[amfootball]

Don't know do they ?

Pretty sure China tunes into the Super Bowl every year and Brady has been the star of six of them the past 13 years ...

[BrentMc11]

And brand influence sells product, you silly girl. It's all comes down to money whether you see it or not.

It all comes down to dollars...and that makes 'cents.'  

[Jay Kirk]

Pretty sure China tunes into the Super Bowl every year and Brady has been the star of six of them the past 13 years ...

No Eli was the star of 2 of those. 

[radiogirl]

Don't know do they ?[/quot

They have no clue. Tom Brady is more relevant in sports right now. MJ has more brand equity worldwide for what he has done, length of time he's been around, and all he has done with brand extensions like his Air Jordan's.

[southwest1]

You are missing the larger marketing level here SW. Air Jordan's are basketball sneakers marketed to a very specific target audience. Uggs have shoe lines for everyone from men to women of all ages. Again, in terms of brand Uggs reaches a much broader scope than an athletic shoe. Or let me put it another way. Jordan could never market Uggs. It is not believable that an athlete like him would wear such a shoe whereas Brady with his mass appeal and transcendence of the football arena, sells the shoe perfectly and also why his commercials take place in an arena other than a football field ...

Jordan is getting Roger Federer a tennis star to market his shoe under the Air Jordan footwear umbrella empire meaning other stars will come to him because of the creative control he offers them in style, price, profit, & distribution. Why would MJ wanna pitch Uggs? He has no need to do so. His networth allowed him to buy an NBA franchise own his own as opposed to a team of investors.

 

I still say MJ transcends his sport more than Brady does & name recognition = brand name & brand name = record profits both here & abroad. You don't think MJ couldn't market a shoe toward a wide female demographic? Trust me, he can. Winning transcends all genders, all borders, & all populations.  

[radiogirl]

Pretty sure China tunes into the Super Bowl every year and Brady has been the star of six of them the past 13 years ...

How many times have you been to China. They have Air Jordan billboards everywhere!

[Swan Ronson]

Somebody is living in some sort of bizarre world where Tom Brady is omnipresent. While that may be true in New England, it is not even close to being the case in the rest of the world. It is farcical to suggest that Brady is as well known worldwide as Michael Jordan.

[Jay Kirk]

How many times have you been to China. They have Air Jordan billboards everywhere!

Do they make them ?

[radiogirl]

Do they make them ?

They sell TONS of them!

[Jay Kirk]

Somebody is living in some sort of bizarre world where Tom Brady is omnipresent. While that may be true in New England, it is not even close to being the case in the rest of the world. It is farcical to suggest that Brady is as well known worldwide as Michael Jordan.

Got to agree whole heartedly.

[amfootball]

Jordan is getting Roger Federer a tennis star to market his shoe under the Air Jordan footwear umbrella empire meaning other stars will come to him because of the creative control he offers them in style, price, profit, & distribution. Why would MJ wanna pitch Uggs? He has no need to do so. His networth allowed him to buy an NBA franchise own his own as opposed to a team of investors.

 

I still say MJ transcends his sport more than Brady does & name recognition = brand name & brand name = record profits both here & abroad. You don't think MJ couldn't market a shoe toward a wide female demographic? Trust me, he can. Winning transcends all genders, all borders, & all populations.  

Give Brady 12 years after he is retired to market himself full-time like Jordan and he will be right there as well ...

[BrentMc11]

They  tried to set up a China Bowl for the Patriots to play in.  It was nixed so the NFL could focus on Wembely Stadium (Spell check.)

 

The Patriots were upset and moved any operations out of China.  (Per Google)

 

You can get $15 jersies  from the sickening sweatshops there.  More than half of China does not have a TV set.

Edited March 31, 2015 by BrentMc11

[BrentMc11]

Somebody is living in some sort of bizarre world where Tom Brady is omnipresent. While that may be true in New England, it is not even close to being the case in the rest of the world. It is farcical to suggest that Brady is as well known worldwide as Michael Jordan.

Nice second post!  Good point.

[Jay Kirk]

They sell TONS of them!

Never wore any of them myself not my type of shoe, however I do like the undergarments he endorses quite well, they are probably made there as well.

[southwest1]

Great points SW. No one is really sure what Brady will do. There has been some scuttle lately that he wants to get into acting so if he has similar success acting as he has in football then his star power would only increase. I do think the world is his oyster much like Manning's upon retirement. They are both so well spoken and savvy in their business ventures that I would think the sky is the limit. Although I agree that Manning is probably more likely destined for a post-career in football like MJ with b-ball versus Brady. Brady seems to have other interests outside the sport and I would think his wife would weigh as well.

 

In terms of models, they continue their endorsements and such after retirement. Cindy Crawford at age 49 is still out and about but similar to athletes they go into other things - acting, business, charities, etc ...

Yeah, model & actress Brook Shields did do ads on TV for Lazy Boy Recliners & Foster Grant reading glasses so your point is well taken about a photogenic pretty face AMF that never goes out of style or fades especially if you are a beloved celebrity that people adore.  An excellent point. 

 

 

https://youtu.be/cWnYGxCuu3M

 

I have a soft spot for Brooke Shields because I fondly remember watching her on USO Tours with comedian Bob Hope as a little munchkin kid growing up with a black-n-white & later color TV too. 

[BrentMc11]

Never wore any of them myself not my type of shoe, however I do like the undergarments he endorses quite well, they are probably made there as well.

New Balance for me Brother.  The best shoe around for foot issues....Made Where??

[Superman]

Umm, it's not even close. Tom Brady isn't even the most popular NFL player, much less overall athlete.

 

Just take Q rating. It's not the be-all/end-all, but it's a strong point of reference. Michael Jordan's is generally between 43 and 51, depending on when you check. It's been the highest among athletes every year since 1991. His Facebook page has over 26 million likes (Brady's has 3.6 million likes). Brady is generally behind Peyton Manning, and often behind Drew Brees and sometimes Aaron Rodgers in terms of popularity among NFL players. A year ago, he was voted the least popular QB in the NFL. Some of that is jealousy, but really he hasn't been that popular and well-known throughout his career, especially compared with other name brand athletes. 

 

http://xgames.espn.go.com/article/8827040/q-score-ranks-pro-skateboarders-alongside-celebrities

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2014/02/27/how-michael-jordan-made-90-million-in-2013/

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1639521-who-is-the-biggest-superstar-in-the-nfl

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nbc-yahoo-sports/tom-brady-reacts-being-named-fans-least-favorite-204639302--ocid.yahoo.html

http://coed.com/2010/09/29/the-five-most-liked-and-disliked-athletes-according-to-q-score/

 

None of this really matters, but it would take a very narrow lens to see Tom Brady as anywhere near as popular as Michael Jordan. Maybe in the Northeast. Anywhere else on this planet, it's not even close.

[Jay Kirk]

New Balance for me Brother.  The best shoe around for foot issues....Made Where??

Lol Ilike Haynes and for shoes prefer sketchers. And they are probably all made in China.

[Jay Kirk]

Umm, it's not even close. Tom Brady isn't even the most popular NFL player, much less overall athlete.

 

Just take Q rating. It's not the be-all/end-all, but it's a strong point of reference. Michael Jordan's is generally between 43 and 51, depending on when you check. It's been the highest among athletes every year since 1991. His Facebook page has over 26 million likes (Brady's has 3.6 million likes). Brady is generally behind Peyton Manning, and often behind Drew Brees and sometimes Aaron Rodgers in terms of popularity among NFL players. A year ago, he was voted the least popular QB in the NFL. Some of that is jealousy, but really he hasn't been that popular and well-known throughout his career, especially compared with other name brand athletes. 

 

http://xgames.espn.go.com/article/8827040/q-score-ranks-pro-skateboarders-alongside-celebrities

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2014/02/27/how-michael-jordan-made-90-million-in-2013/

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1639521-who-is-the-biggest-superstar-in-the-nfl

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nbc-yahoo-sports/tom-brady-reacts-being-named-fans-least-favorite-204639302--ocid.yahoo.html

http://coed.com/2010/09/29/the-five-most-liked-and-disliked-athletes-according-to-q-score/

 

None of this really matters, but it would take a very narrow lens to see Tom Brady as anywhere near as popular as Michael Jordan. Maybe in the Northeast. Anywhere else on this planet, it's not even close.

Agreed

[BrentMc11]

Lol Ilike Haynes and for shoes prefer sketchers. And they are probably all made in China.

New Balance made in America.  My three gorgeous daughters:  Made in China.....  The end

[BrentMc11]

Umm, it's not even close. Tom Brady isn't even the most popular NFL player, much less overall athlete.

 

Just take Q rating. It's not the be-all/end-all, but it's a strong point of reference. Michael Jordan's is generally between 43 and 51, depending on when you check. It's been the highest among athletes every year since 1991. His Facebook page has over 26 million likes (Brady's has 3.6 million likes). Brady is generally behind Peyton Manning, and often behind Drew Brees and sometimes Aaron Rodgers in terms of popularity among NFL players. A year ago, he was voted the least popular QB in the NFL. Some of that is jealousy, but really he hasn't been that popular and well-known throughout his career, especially compared with other name brand athletes. 

 

http://xgames.espn.go.com/article/8827040/q-score-ranks-pro-skateboarders-alongside-celebrities

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2014/02/27/how-michael-jordan-made-90-million-in-2013/

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1639521-who-is-the-biggest-superstar-in-the-nfl

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nbc-yahoo-sports/tom-brady-reacts-being-named-fans-least-favorite-204639302--ocid.yahoo.html

http://coed.com/2010/09/29/the-five-most-liked-and-disliked-athletes-according-to-q-score/

 

None of this really matters, but it would take a very narrow lens to see Tom Brady as anywhere near as popular as Michael Jordan. Maybe in the Northeast. Anywhere else on this planet, it's not even close.

Yeah what's a billion dollars?  I might be able to afford a hat other than my 1994 Colts AFC Championship hat  

 

Thanks for the time on stats!

[Susie Q]

                                                        NEWS FLASH

 

  Giselle just filed a restraining order. Word on the street there is a crazy stalker out there.   

[Jay Kirk]

New Balance made in America.  My three gorgeous daughters:  Made in China.....  The end

Yes they were and your blessed to have them.

[BrentMc11]

Yes they were and your blessed to have them.

I may exhaust my likes in this thread tomorrow.  These girls ...all of the kids keep me young every day!  Thank you, Jay!

[Jay Kirk]

I may exhaust my likes in this thread tomorrow.  These girls ...all of the kids keep me young every day!  Thank you, Jay!

Lol Im gonna come back with some likes myself when they resupply.

[amfootball]

Umm, it's not even close. Tom Brady isn't even the most popular NFL player, much less overall athlete.

 

Just take Q rating. It's not the be-all/end-all, but it's a strong point of reference. Michael Jordan's is generally between 43 and 51, depending on when you check. It's been the highest among athletes every year since 1991. His Facebook page has over 26 million likes (Brady's has 3.6 million likes). Brady is generally behind Peyton Manning, and often behind Drew Brees and sometimes Aaron Rodgers in terms of popularity among NFL players. A year ago, he was voted the least popular QB in the NFL. Some of that is jealousy, but really he hasn't been that popular and well-known throughout his career, especially compared with other name brand athletes. 

 

http://xgames.espn.go.com/article/8827040/q-score-ranks-pro-skateboarders-alongside-celebrities

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2014/02/27/how-michael-jordan-made-90-million-in-2013/

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1639521-who-is-the-biggest-superstar-in-the-nfl

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nbc-yahoo-sports/tom-brady-reacts-being-named-fans-least-favorite-204639302--ocid.yahoo.html

http://coed.com/2010/09/29/the-five-most-liked-and-disliked-athletes-according-to-q-score/

 

None of this really matters, but it would take a very narrow lens to see Tom Brady as anywhere near as popular as Michael Jordan. Maybe in the Northeast. Anywhere else on this planet, it's not even close.

Yes point was not popularity but recognition. Brady is far more recognizable globally than Rodgers, Brees or any other current player other than Manning in the US but certainly not globally it is not even close given his wife and her reach.

[BrentMc11]

Yes point was not popularity but recognition. Brady is far more recognizable globally than Rodgers, Brees or any other current player other than Manning in the US but certainly not globally it is not even close given his wife and her reach.

The only problem is....this topic was Tom and Jordan and you went bozo yet again?????  Why is this happening?

[radiogirl]

Yes point was not popularity but recognition. Brady is far more recognizable globally than Rodgers, Brees or any other current player other than Manning in the US but certainly not globally it is not even close given his wife and her reach.

False.

[BrentMc11]

                                                        NEWS FLASH

 

  Giselle just filed a restraining order. Word on the street there is a crazy stalker out there. 

Tom did not care.  He was playing golf and Basketball with his boyyyys!  HA HA!

[Superman]

Yes point was not popularity but recognition. Brady is far more recognizable globally than Rodgers, Brees or any other current player other than Manning in the US but certainly not globally it is not even close given his wife and her reach.

 

Well so long as we agree that it's not even close with Jordan.

 

I don't know about Brees and Rodgers. The fact that they do more commercials and other ads might lead to them being more recognizable. Globally might be a different story.