Wes Welker, Broncos engaged in 'serious talks', according to report

[bayone]

Adam Schefter        ✔ @AdamSchefter

Filed to ESPN: Broncos in serious talks, trying to hammer out an agreement with Patriots WR Wes Welker. Decision expected today.

 

http://www.milehighreport.com/2013/3/13/4100038/wes-welker-broncos-free-agency-patriots

[Kyle]

hmmm....verrrrryy  interesting..

[bayone]

hmmm....verrrrryy  interesting..

 

Boston  Sports News

 

 

New England Patriots, Denver Broncos Final Two For Wes Welker?

 

 

 it sounds like it has come down to the New England Patriots and Denver Broncos, and that is according to Bill Simmons of ESPN and Grantland. The Boston-based writer did break the Randy Moss trade, and Simmons is a reliable source for big information regarding the Patriots, in my opinion. It make sense for the Broncos and Patriots- two contenders with elite quarterbacks whose schemes fit Welker- to be the final two teams for Welker.

 

All the stuff about Welker getting low-balled by the Pats seems to be agent-driven, but it is true that the Pats and Welker broke off extensions yesterday and were, per the Boston Herald, “miles apart”. If the Broncos do land Welker, then they will be stacked as an offense with Demaryius Thomas, Eric Decker, Welker, and Jacob Tamme as the weapons surrounding Manning.

 

 

The thought of it  ((  article author not me )))  makes me sick to my stomach.

 

I think the Patriots have a better chance at signing Welker than the Broncos do, and it would be a slap in the face if Welker really did sign with the Broncos. I actually hope Simmons is wrong here about it coming down to the Broncos and Patriots, but that’s only if the Patriots are still in it. It’s good to hear that the Pats still have a good chance at re-signing Welker, but all this drama surrounding him continues to make me fear the worst.

http://musketfire.com/2013/03/13/new-england-patriots-denver-broncos-final-two-for-wes-welker/?utm_source=FanSided&utm_medium=Network&utm_campaign=Hot%2BTopics

 

[Vance]

OMG Broncos, just take the AFC trophy now...

[bayone]

OMG Broncos, just take the AFC trophy now...

 

Funny, Texans are tough 

[amfootball]

Terrible signing for Broncos if true. They need help on D not O.

[bayone]

I meant this as a compliment to texans but computer froze  before could edit ,, Texans are tough  

 

 

 

OMG Broncos, just take the AFC trophy now...

[IndyTrav]

Has a FA not been linked to Denver?

Where is all this money coming from?

They are willing to pay DT only $2mill next yr? He's due for an extension no later than 2014. Decker? He's a FA next year. Clady. Miller is a FA in 2 yrs.

Something doesn't seem right.

According to SportTrac, they have over $125 in active contracts. Including the guys they signed yesterday. The cap is at 123....I'm confused.

[Fx Stryker]

Terrible signing for Broncos if true. They need help on D not O.

 

Stokely is getting up there for age for a WR. I think he is a year older than Peyton.

 

Good signing, if they get it, in my opinion. replaces Stokley and takes away Brady's biggest weapon. 

 

Maybe Peyton will succeed at what Brady failed twice. Getting him his ring.

[bayone]

Terrible signing for Broncos if true. They need help on D not O.

 

 

Has a FA not been linked to Denver?

Where is all this money coming from?

They are willing to pay DT only $2mill next yr? He's due for an extension no later than 2014. Decker? He's a FA next year. Clady. Miller is a FA in 2 yrs.

Something doesn't seem right.

According to SportTrac, they have over $125 in active contracts. Including the guys they signed yesterday. The cap is at 123....I'm confused.

 

 

Stokely is getting up there for age for a WR. I think he is a year older than Peyton.

 

Good signing, if they get it, in my opinion. replaces Stokley and take away Brady's biggest weapon. 

 

Maybe Peyton will get Welker his ring unlike Brady could.

 

Its possible that

 

 Welker is just setting the price and then the Pats will match , who knows untill there is a signing

[amfootball]

Stokely is getting up there for age for a WR. I think he is a year older than Peyton.

 

Good signing, if they get it, in my opinion. replaces Stokley and takes away Brady's biggest weapon. 

 

Maybe Peyton will succeed at what Brady failed twice. Getting him his ring.

Then Peyton too can be king of the five yard pass. :-)

[Fx Stryker]

Then Peyton too can be king of the five yard pass. :-)

 

He still has Decker and Thomas to go deep with.

[Dustin]

Has a FA not been linked to Denver?

Where is all this money coming from?

They are willing to pay DT only $2mill next yr? He's due for an extension no later than 2014. Decker? He's a FA next year. Clady. Miller is a FA in 2 yrs.

Something doesn't seem right.

According to SportTrac, they have over $125 in active contracts. Including the guys they signed yesterday. The cap is at 123....I'm confused.

 

There supposedly going to be cutting Dumervil or he's taking a pay cut.

[amfootball]

Yeah, but will he have the arm to get it there? Especially in Dec and Jan.

 

He still has Decker and Thomas to go deep with.

[Fx Stryker]

Yeah, but will he have the arm to get it there? Especially in Dec and Jan.

 

Nerves can only get stronger. Plus there is nothing wrong with the 5 yards dumps. I've never used that argument to bring Brady down.

[bayone]

Then Peyton too can be king of the five yard pass. :-)

 

 

He still has Decker and Thomas to go deep with.

 

 

There supposedly going to be cutting Dumervil or he's taking a pay cut.

 

Pats may think better to keep talib than welker

 

Need Doom settled already, how can spend on both and still far apart supposedly as per this article  

 

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_22775704/elvis-dumervil-broncos-resume-contract-talks-but-remain

[bayone]

There supposedly going to be cutting Dumervil or he's taking a pay cut.

 

Need Doom settled already, how can spend on both and still far apart supposedly as per this article  

 

http://www.denverpos...alks-but-remain

[lollygagger8]

Slap NE in the face Welker!!

 

 

But then the Broncos get even more scary.....except in the playoffs :yay:

[bayone]

Slap NE in the face Welker!!

 

 

But then the Broncos get even more scary.....except in the playoffs :yay:

 

Brandon Stokley on Broncos pursuit of Wes Welker: “It would be a great move.”

 

He was told about the Broncos’ interest in Wes Welker, who is considered the NFL’s top slot man after averaging 112 catches in his six seasons with the New England Patriots.

 

Welker, a free agent, and the Pats reportedly are at a stalemate in contract negotiations and the Broncos are among the teams in play.

 

“I think it would be a great move if (the Broncos) got him,” Stokley said. “I think he would be a great fit here.” 

 

Wait a minute. Stokley does realize Welker would beaking his spot?

 

“I know that,” Stokley said. “I’m just talking about production. Look at what he’s done the last six years. I’ve always thought he was underrated. You see these other receivers out there getting big money, I think Wes deserves what some of these guys are getting.”

Stokley caught 45 passes for 544 yards and five touchdowns from his good friend Peyton Manning last year while making $925,000. But at 36, Stokley was turned loose to free agency. Welker is 31 and finished second in the league 118 catches last season. He is expected to command an $8 million-a-year contract.

 

“I’m fine with whatever happens with my situation, at this point,” Stokley said. “If last year was my last ride, with the kind of year we had as a team, I’d be happy with that. But you never what will happen. I might keep playing elsewhere. I’m just going to continue to stay in shape and wait to see if someone calls. If they do, I’ll be ready.”

 

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2013/03/13/brandon-stokley-on-broncos-pursuit-of-wes-welker-it-would-be-a-great-move/18860/

[chad72]

I would actually be more scared if the Broncos sign Revis and Ed Reed, not as much Welker.

 

I am sure the Pats will be scared if the Broncos sign Pollard.

[amfootball]

Nerves can only get stronger. Plus there is nothing wrong with the 5 yards dumps. I've never used that argument to bring Brady down.

Doctors are not sure if nevers will ever come back. Another year older does not help either. I love dump off passes too but in fairness Brady has not had a deep threat since Moss left. He has had no other choice but middle and underneath.

[Yehoodi]

not sure what is going to happen with Welker, but it would be good to see him go to a contender team . . . we'll just have to wait and see what happens . . .

[Fx Stryker]

Doctors are not sure if nevers will ever come back. Another year older does not help either. I love dump off passes too but in fairness Brady has not had a deep threat since Moss left. He has had no other choice but middle and underneath.

 

Well it's been continuous progress since the surgery. Until reports say he has stopped progressing, or has hit 100% can only assume it gets better. Age is a factor, but Brady is also on his second half of 30. He is only a year, four months and 11 days younger.

 

It's the offense the Patriots decide to run. I'm sure, just like Peyton, Brady has a say in the way the offense is run. I'm sure he could get them to bring in a deep threat. Maybe he doesn't like deep threats. I don't know. Not a huge follower of Brady or what he says. So that is simply a guess.

[bayone]

not sure what is going to happen with Welker, but it would be good to see him go to a contender team . . . we'll just have to wait and see what happens . . .

 

 

Nfl network says either Denver wants him & will pay him , or are trying to make offer just enough where he goes back to Pats & forces pats to spend more cap money and If not they get him at good price

Then they said Welker Married in Colorodo so he likes it ( LOL ), and BTW knows Denver has a descent QB who will throw to him ((( guess thats their idea of humor ))

 

Then someone said do u think Welker can handle a hurry up offense

 

I think this is media going juiced up on this

[chad72]

Doctors are not sure if nevers will ever come back. Another year older does not help either. I love dump off passes too but in fairness Brady has not had a deep threat since Moss left. He has had no other choice but middle and underneath.

 

I dont think you want him to have a deep threat like Moss in the playoffs. His INTs in the playoffs were the worst statistically in 2007 & 2009, the 2 out of 3 years he played with Moss. Moss made your O a little more predictable with longer routes taking more time to form leading to Brady holding the ball more too. You had to abandon the pass and take to the run to beat the Chargers in the 2007 AFCCG because if you had continued, Brady would have had more INTs in that game.

 

The same thing happened to Peyton as well with Marvin Harrison, elite Ds game plan to take that deep threat away. It is not till Peyton had Dallas Clark did Peyton's passing game go farther in the playoffs. Same with Brady and his receiving TEs, those are the key against elite Ds because elite Ds dont give you much time and will force more stuff underneath and force QBs to be patient.

 

The number of INTs Peyton has going to Marvin and Wayne clearly tells me that a deep outside threat is not always as glamorous as it seems when it comes to playoff time, as a Colts fan I should know that.

[amfootball]

Would love a player like Moss back. Most gifted WR all time and one flukiest catch away from perfect season. And Brady threw 50 TDs to 8 picks that year for his second best TD to INT ratio all time (he holds the record from 2010 when he thre 36 TDs to 4 picks). And the chargers always force him into picks. He threw three in 2006 playoff game as well with no Moss. 

 

Right now, Brady needs someone to stretch the field as O is just as predictable with TEs and slot WR.

I dont think you want him to have a deep threat like Moss in the playoffs. His INTs in the playoffs were the worst statistically in 2007 & 2009, the 2 out of 3 years he played with Moss. Moss made your O a little more predictable with longer routes taking more time to form. You had to abandon the pass and take to the run to beat the Chargers in the 2007 AFCCG because if you had continued, Brady would have had more INTs in that game.

 

The same thing happened to Peyton as well with Marvin Harrison, elite Ds game plan to take that deep threat away. It is not till Peyton had Dallas Clark did Peyton's passing game go farther in the playoffs. Same with Brady and his receiving TEs, those are the key against elite Ds because elite Ds dont give you much time and will force more stuff underneath and force QBs to be patient.

[chad72]

Right now, Brady needs someone to stretch the field as O is just as predictable with TEs and slot WR.

 

But at least he wont hold on to the ball too long waiting for the route to form. It would have been totally different if Gronk was healthy. He was in the 2011 AFCCG for the most part and did enough to get you to the SB. Gronk's health has hurt you 2 consecutive years.

 

The key is O-line protection. If Brady gets good protection, then, yes, the deep threat actually becomes a threat. If not, more issues happen. But even if O-line has issues, your TEs can come through even if the O is predictable because they are that good when they are together on the field at the same time.

[Qwiz]

Brady or Manning...what a hard choice for a WR to make

[Fx Stryker]

Would love a player like Moss back. Most gifted WR all time and one flukiest catch away from perfect season. And Brady threw 50 TDs to 8 picks that year for his second best TD to INT ratio all time (he holds the record from 2010 when he thre 36 TDs to 4 picks). And the chargers always force him into picks. He threw three in 2006 playoff game as well with no Moss. 

 

Right now, Brady needs someone to stretch the field as O is just as predictable with TEs and slot WR.

 

I wouldn't call it a fluke of a catch. Maybe Eli getting away was the fluke, but not the catch. It was an easy catch, and only turned out so dramatic because Harrison hit Tyree's arm. Tyree catch and holding on was skill not luck.

[amfootball]

lol. he had stickum on his helmet. What skill? He never played in the NFL again after that game and was the Giants 4th or 5th receiver on the team that year. Even Rodney admitted after the game that he hadn't seen any film on him because he rarely ever played.

 

 

I wouldn't call it a fluke of a catch. Maybe Eli getting away was the fluke, but not the catch. It was an easy catch, and only turned out so dramatic because Harrison hit Tyree's arm. Tyree catch and holding on was skill not luck.

[CR91]

the broncos have offered welker a muti-year contract. no agreement yet.

[Dustin]

It's a rumored 4 year 35 million. He's giving New England a chance to match.

[Dustin]

This is a great move regardless. On one hand, they can get one of the best slot receivers in the game if he signs. On the other hand, if New England matches, they basically cripple their cap space on a 32 year old receiver and are going to have a hard time building their defense up.

[Fx Stryker]

lol. he had stickum on his helmet. What skill? He never played in the NFL again after that game and was the Giants 4th or 5th receiver on the team that year. Even Rodney admitted after the game that he hadn't seen any film on him because he rarely ever played.

 

He did play in the NFL again. But the Super Bowl catch was his final catch. Maybe Harrison should have studied more because Eli told Peyton after the game "I told you he was a gamer." So Eli knew he was good.

 

Like I said it's only a jump catch if Harrsion wasn't there. It's not like he made a catch like Donald Driver's famous catch on MNF, or the batted down game winner in the Jags/Texans game. Those are lucky catches.

[supremecoltsfan300]

This is a great move regardless. On one hand, they can get one of the best slot receivers in the game if he signs. On the other hand, if New England matches, they basically cripple their cap space on a 32 year old receiver and are going to have a hard time building their defense up.

Completely agree. Either way, Broncos are hurting their biggest rival. Smart move. I'd personally love to see welker with Peyton.

[amfootball]

He did play in the NFL again. But the Super Bowl catch was his final catch. Maybe Harrison should have studied more because Eli told Peyton after the game "I told you he was a gamer." So Eli knew he was good.

 

Like I said it's only a jump catch if Harrsion wasn't there. It's not like he made a catch like Donald Driver's famous catch on MNF, or the batted down game winner in the Jags/Texans game. Those are lucky catches.

I am not sure what to tell you. You may be the less than one percent that holds this opinion. If you watch the play, the ball literally stuck to the side of his helmet with Rodney wrapped around him. 1 percent skill, 99 percent luck. Even Tyree has said so many times.

[bayone]

He did play in the NFL again. But the Super Bowl catch was his final catch. Maybe Harrison should have studied more because Eli told Peyton after the game "I told you he was a gamer." So Eli knew he was good.

 

Like I said it's only a jump catch if Harrsion wasn't there. It's not like he made a catch like Donald Driver's famous catch on MNF, or the batted down game winner in the Jags/Texans game. Those are lucky catches.

 

 

Completely agree. Either way, Broncos are hurting their biggest rival. Smart move. I'd personally love to see welker with Peyton.

 

 

NFL network says Broncos offered him  multi year money thats acceptable to him & of Market value, now he has to  decide if wants to leave Pats and also if he goes back to pats & asks match this, , If Pats do then he asks why didn't u offer me this to begin with , Pride may play an issue then , or he may just not want to move

 

No amounts noted , just that it was enough that it Satisfied Welker

[Fx Stryker]

I am not sure what to tell you. You may be the less than one percent that holds this opinion. If you watch the play, the ball literally stuck to the side of his helmet with Rodney wrapped around him. 1 percent skill, 99 percent luck. Even Tyree has said so many times.

 

I think he catches that ball multiple times. Luck to me is you do it once, and never get it again. I don't think that is the case in Tyree's catch.

[amfootball]

He is gone. I think he was gone after talks broke down last year. His pride was hurt then and the fact that he didn't start the first two games. Pats will not match any offer from Broncs that they feel is over what he is worth.

NFL network says Broncos offered him  multi year money thats acceptable to him & of Market value, now he has to  decide if wants to leave Pats and also if he goes back to pats & asks match this, , If Pats do then he asks why didn't u offer me this to begin with , Pride may play an issue then , or he may just not want to move

 

No amounts noted , just that it was enough that it Satisfied Welker

[bayone]

Terrible signing for Broncos if true. They need help on D not O.

 

 

Has a FA not been linked to Denver?

Where is all this money coming from?

They are willing to pay DT only $2mill next yr? He's due for an extension no later than 2014. Decker? He's a FA next year. Clady. Miller is a FA in 2 yrs.

Something doesn't seem right.

According to SportTrac, they have over $125 in active contracts. Including the guys they signed yesterday. The cap is at 123....I'm confused.

 

 

Stokely is getting up there for age for a WR. I think he is a year older than Peyton.

 

Good signing, if they get it, in my opinion. replaces Stokley and takes away Brady's biggest weapon. 

 

Maybe Peyton will succeed at what Brady failed twice. Getting him his ring.

 

 

There supposedly going to be cutting Dumervil or he's taking a pay cut.

 

 

not sure what is going to happen with Welker, but it would be good to see him go to a contender team . . . we'll just have to wait and see what happens . . .

 

 

AGRRED TO TERMS WITH BRONCO< ITS DONE,, 2 year deal, no numbers given