Jump to content
Indianapolis Colts
Indianapolis Colts Fan Forum

Simplify Offense for Luck

BProland85

By BProland85
in Colts Football

 Share

Recommended Posts

GoColts8818 Ring of Honor

GoColts8818

Posted
Posted

Tom James of the TribStar tweeted that coach Ariens said that Luck has about 90% of the offense down already. Maybe the offense is already simplified or Luck is absolutely brilliant. It took Dallas Clark nearly 2 years to grasp Tom Moore's offense and Luck has Areiens' offense down in a month with only a few days of practice.

I am going to say first I love Dallas but Dallas never struck me as the smartest guy on the team. I don't think he was dumb by any means but I wouldn't have a hard time believing that Luck is smarter than dallas. Also since a big part of lucks job is to call the play I can see why he would pick up on it quickly. Also I am sure this offense is the basics of what they want to do and they will build from there like they did with manning. A lot of guys said the hard part with the moore offense was learning mannings new checks every week and I don't think luck is doing the check with me that Peyton did at least not yet.
Link to comment
Share on other sites
oldunclemark Walk On

oldunclemark

Posted
Posted

No....as of the off-season when everyone was fired,...there was no Colts offense...

..and since we have a coach who's never been a head coach..the 'offense' may be a work in progress...

Its new to all the players and Andrew Luck should have no trouble learning it along with everybody else...

our problem would be the veterans learning a new offense...not the rookies and newcomers...

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Flash7 Team Captain

Flash7

Posted
Posted

Part of the temptation for having s simplified offense is due to the performances of Andy Dalton and Cam Newton who did not have an off season last year. They were intoroduced into the league with limited play books which allowed them to play faster without having to compute so much information. Of course, at the same time, the defenses did not have time to establish their defensive playbook and essentially at the begining of the season you had more simplified offenses versus more simplified defenses, which allowed for the QB's to excel.

If we made the argument that we can simplify the offense for Luck based on last year's sucess, then essentially we would have a simplified offensive attack vs complex defenses. This would not be a recipe for success. Of course there are other factors to consider in a discussion for simplifying the offense, but I am of the opinion that Andrew Luck would prefer to have more than less. As nother poster pointed out earlier, it's not the play book that may hold Luck back; rather, it would be the adjustment to the pro grame. He just needs more time and reps.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
TKnight24 Walk On

TKnight24

Posted
Posted

I quote Pagano on this "Run a Defense that's Simple for the Players, but Complex for the Opponents". He didn't say anything about a Simple Offense. When you have Andrew Luck as your QB, I don't think anything is Simple. At Stanford they gave him like 3 Plays & he called one of them based on how the D lined up when he got to the Line. So he'll probably do the same here

Link to comment
Share on other sites
bavanlan Walk On

bavanlan

Posted
Posted

Sure! Can you slow the rotation with effecting the clarity? haha:)

Should be no problem, I still have the 3D model I made.

I'm also going to make a Bizzaro one for the resident haters.

(EDIT: You may need to click on the images and save those; the original images have been auto-sized and it's making them choppy, at least on my computer)

gallery_46_8_1101030.gif

gallery_46_8_664071.gif

Link to comment
Share on other sites
weslo1812 Walk On

weslo1812

Posted
Posted

No we dont need to simplify things for him. Hes got the smarts to grasp everything and apply it and as has alrady been said he is alrady calling long plays and alrady making auidbles call and calling various play at the line. He is well on his way to having this offense down mentally, the bigger matter just getting him out there physically and putting that side to work by giving him constant repetition and putting what he has learned in his mind to work on the feild, as well as building cheemistry and contuing to feed him more information as he shows more progression. This guy can handle this without modifactions hes alrady showing it. I see no need to modify anything for him, let him have what he can handle which is alot.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
HungarianColtsFan Team Captain

HungarianColtsFan

Posted
Posted

Oh yeah...we should simplify our Offense for Luck. And as a next step we should ask our opponents, to simplify their D for Luck too...

C'mon, Luck is considered as a best prospect QB since...You know... He isn't dumb, and is able to learn the playbook. Chemistry, chemistry, chemistry...that cannot be learned, chemistry comes only with playing time no matter how "simply" the offense is.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Quantum88 Walk On

Quantum88

Posted
Posted

I hope we spend the year challenging him, rather than simplifying things for him. He'll get so much more out of it that way.

People grow by being challenged, not by being spoon fed. I have already figured that we will have a season like we did in 1998, but Peyton was able to go to 13-3 his second year because we didn't simplify things for him.

We also are going to a totally different offense than we had under Moore.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Thread of the Week

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Restinpeacesweetchloe
      Chris Ballard on Pat McAfee Show about the draft

      By Restinpeacesweetchloe · Posted

      There won’t be anyone to sign if they want that long. But they will probably see what happens in OTA. Personally I don’t think colts have a time line. They are on diggs and Simmons schedule. It’s up to them when they feel like signing.
    • Two_pound
      Colts select Adonai Mitchell WR Texas (Merged)

      By Two_pound · Posted

      I watched the Kansas St.-Texas game from 2023 today and Mitchell was outstanding in that one. One long td(47 yards), another long reception(37 yards) and he had excellent blocks on CJ Baxters' 47 yard td run and two other excellent blocks that sprung runners for huge gains. If you had only watched the first half of that game while scouting Mitchell and saw nothing else you would have taken him in the top 10. That is how impressive he was in the first half of that game. I'll add this also, when watching Texas games from last year watch Mitchell BLOCK. I'm no scout and I don't watch 100's of hours of film, but from what I've seen of him at Georgia and his one year at Texas I don't know how he fell to number 52. Welcome to the Colts Adonai, I hope you burn up the league this year! Go Colts!
    • CR91
      Update on AR

      By CR91 · Posted

      I was referring muscle-wise not his actual weight. Compared to the start of the season where imo he looked smaller, I think he added a lot more muscle
    • NewColtsFan
      Update on AR

      By NewColtsFan · Posted

      But he carries it well.   Honestly I doubt he’s that big now….   One would think he’s in good shape now that he’s being active for the first time in roughly 6+ months.     Im just thinking out loud….  
    • DattMavis
      Update on AR

      By DattMavis · Posted

      CJ also made comments about being glad he wasn't drafted by Indy and how Indy is boring. I know he has the nice "humble beginnings" story, but he's making himself feel like a villain early. You don't want to annoy people that might be your future coworkers or employers. It's a bad look. 

  • Members

    • NewColtsFan

      NewColtsFan 21,294

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • Introspect

      Introspect 346

      Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • Stephen

      Stephen 4,098

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • compuls1v3

      compuls1v3 1,987

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • G8R

      G8R 50

      New Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • PRnum1

      PRnum1 3,128

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • CardiacColts

      CardiacColts 342

      Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • Douzer

      Douzer 623

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • Orioles22

      Orioles22 398

      Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • Kc77

      Kc77 3

      Rookie
      Joined:
      Last active:
×
×
  • Create New...