John Hammonds Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Listening to Mike Greenberg this morning. All the rumors of quarterbacks, when they'll be taken, which teams would trade up to get them.... I'm just reminded of how overwhelmingly glad I am that the COLTS are not being mentioned at all in the QB draft follies this year! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLfan Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 hour ago, John Hammonds said: Listening to Mike Greenberg this morning. All the rumors of quarterbacks, when they'll be taken, which teams would trade up to get them.... I'm just reminded of how overwhelmingly glad I am that the COLTS are not being mentioned at all in the QB draft follies this year! What did Greeny say about the Vikes and our quest for a QB this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Hammonds Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 23 minutes ago, NFLfan said: What did Greeny say about the Vikes and our quest for a QB this year? Mostly what you already knew -- that there's noise out there that they may trade up to get one of the QB's. But that it's also very weird to consider trading up that far to get the fourth graded QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikingsFanInChennai Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 9 hours ago, NFLfan said: That is not a popular opinion here. Some love Kirk as if he did so much for us. Keenum won 13 regular season games for the Vikings in 2017 with a tiny fraction of what Kirk was paid. Anyway, let's keep this to draft related stuff. Who are your sleepers in this draft? Who do you think will be the QB of the future for the Vikes? I'm really nervous about this draft. 😂 My sleepers: (meaning, the kind of players coaches would like to have, more than what consensus big board gives credit to them. Some of them might need couple of years to attain their high potential, if drafted into suitable coaching environment, so a lot depends on that. Some of them have injury concerns too). Most of them are high IQ players or high-effort, high-motor players - two traits I look for from the Drafted players, list is long but I like these guys.. gonna be interesting to see where they land and how it works out for them in long run. Payton Wilson, LB, NC State Caelen Carson, CB, Wake Forest Kiran Amegadjie, OT, Yale Maason Smith, IDL, LSU Christian Mahogany, OG, Boston College Max Melton, CB, Rutgers Zak Zinter, OG, Michigan Bucky Irving, RB, Oregon Khyree Jackson, CB Oregon Dylan McMahon, C, NC State (good fit for Browns) Tykee Smith, SAF, Georgia Ainias Smith, WR, Texas A&M Cam Hart, CB, Notre Dame Michael Barrett, LB Michigan Malachi Corley, WR, Western Kentucky Beaux Limmer, IOL, Arkansas Kamren Kinchens, S, Miami McKinnley Jackson, IDL, Texas A&M Kalen King, CB, Penn State Justin Eboigbe, IDL, Alabama Jacob Cowing, WR, Arizona Beau Brade, SAF, Maryland Isaac Guerendo, RB, Louisville Jalyx Hunt, EDGE, Houston Christian (I'm hoping for day 3 Vikings pickup, as Flores could work wonders with him) Jaheim Bell, TE, Florida State Brennan Jackson, EDGE, Washington State Delmar Glaze, OT, Maryland Myles Cole, EDGE, Texas Tech Kristian Boyd, DT, Northern Iowa Javontae Jean-Baptiste, DL, Notre Dame Jordan Magee, LB, Temple Myles Harden, CB, South Dakota Jalen Green, EDGE, James Madison (UDFA Target prospect) Trey Taylor, S, Air Force (UDFA prospect) Eyabi Okie-Anoma, EDGE, Charlotte Qwan'tez Stiggers, CB, Toronto Sundiata Anderson, EDGE, Grambling State Daequan Hardy, CB, Penn State (Special Teams, Returner) Emani Bailey, RB, TCU As for Vikings, I don't wanna rush to draft QB if the team isn't confident in the guys they could move up in draft range, and I'd like to just draft impact players that build the roster at this point. Build the team, draft a franchise QB at right time, don't rush and ruin years trying to make someone work out in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 @VikingsFanInChennai who do you want for the Vikings? If you had your choice of the 3 - Maye, Daniels, McCarthy? Who do you pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 37 minutes ago, VikingsFanInChennai said: My sleepers: (meaning, the kind of players coaches would like to have, more than what consensus big board gives credit to them. Some of them might need couple of years to attain their high potential, if drafted into suitable coaching environment, so a lot depends on that. Some of them have injury concerns too). Most of them are high IQ players or high-effort, high-motor players - two traits I look for from the Drafted players, list is long but I like these guys.. gonna be interesting to see where they land and how it works out for them in long run. Payton Wilson, LB, NC State Caelen Carson, CB, Wake Forest Kiran Amegadjie, OT, Yale Maason Smith, IDL, LSU Christian Mahogany, OG, Boston College Max Melton, CB, Rutgers Zak Zinter, OG, Michigan Bucky Irving, RB, Oregon Khyree Jackson, CB Oregon Dylan McMahon, C, NC State (good fit for Browns) Tykee Smith, SAF, Georgia Ainias Smith, WR, Texas A&M Cam Hart, CB, Notre Dame Michael Barrett, LB Michigan Malachi Corley, WR, Western Kentucky Beaux Limmer, IOL, Arkansas Kamren Kinchens, S, Miami McKinnley Jackson, IDL, Texas A&M Kalen King, CB, Penn State Justin Eboigbe, IDL, Alabama Jacob Cowing, WR, Arizona Beau Brade, SAF, Maryland Isaac Guerendo, RB, Louisville Jalyx Hunt, EDGE, Houston Christian (I'm hoping for day 3 Vikings pickup, as Flores could work wonders with him) Jaheim Bell, TE, Florida State Brennan Jackson, EDGE, Washington State Delmar Glaze, OT, Maryland Myles Cole, EDGE, Texas Tech Kristian Boyd, DT, Northern Iowa Javontae Jean-Baptiste, DL, Notre Dame Jordan Magee, LB, Temple Myles Harden, CB, South Dakota Jalen Green, EDGE, James Madison (UDFA Target prospect) Trey Taylor, S, Air Force (UDFA prospect) Eyabi Okie-Anoma, EDGE, Charlotte Qwan'tez Stiggers, CB, Toronto Sundiata Anderson, EDGE, Grambling State Daequan Hardy, CB, Penn State (Special Teams, Returner) Emani Bailey, RB, TCU As for Vikings, I don't wanna rush to draft QB if the team isn't confident in the guys they could move up in draft range, and I'd like to just draft impact players that build the roster at this point. Build the team, draft a franchise QB at right time, don't rush and ruin years trying to make someone work out in the NFL. TLDR. Shoulda asked you who ISN’T a sleeper! Jk! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougDew Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 hour ago, VikingsFanInChennai said: My sleepers. Most of them are high IQ players or high-effort, high-motor players - Payton Wilson, LB, NC State Caelen Carson, CB, Wake Forest Kiran Amegadjie, OT, Yale Max Melton, CB, Rutgers Cam Hart, CB, Notre Dame Malachi Corley, WR, Western Kentucky Isaac Guerendo, RB, Louisville Jalyx Hunt, EDGE, Houston Christian (I'm hoping for day 3 Vikings pickup, as Flores could work wonders with him) I modified the list to cut it down to what I think are the best players. This is a good list of players, IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 9 minutes ago, DougDew said: This is a good list of players, IMO. I agree - a lot of players that seem like Colts… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLfan Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 hour ago, VikingsFanInChennai said: My sleepers: (meaning, the kind of players coaches would like to have, more than what consensus big board gives credit to them. Some of them might need couple of years to attain their high potential, if drafted into suitable coaching environment, so a lot depends on that. Some of them have injury concerns too). Most of them are high IQ players or high-effort, high-motor players - two traits I look for from the Drafted players, list is long but I like these guys.. gonna be interesting to see where they land and how it works out for them in long run. Payton Wilson, LB, NC State Caelen Carson, CB, Wake Forest Kiran Amegadjie, OT, Yale Maason Smith, IDL, LSU Christian Mahogany, OG, Boston College Max Melton, CB, Rutgers Zak Zinter, OG, Michigan Bucky Irving, RB, Oregon Khyree Jackson, CB Oregon Dylan McMahon, C, NC State (good fit for Browns) Tykee Smith, SAF, Georgia Ainias Smith, WR, Texas A&M Cam Hart, CB, Notre Dame Michael Barrett, LB Michigan Malachi Corley, WR, Western Kentucky Beaux Limmer, IOL, Arkansas Kamren Kinchens, S, Miami McKinnley Jackson, IDL, Texas A&M Kalen King, CB, Penn State Justin Eboigbe, IDL, Alabama Jacob Cowing, WR, Arizona Beau Brade, SAF, Maryland Isaac Guerendo, RB, Louisville Jalyx Hunt, EDGE, Houston Christian (I'm hoping for day 3 Vikings pickup, as Flores could work wonders with him) Jaheim Bell, TE, Florida State Brennan Jackson, EDGE, Washington State Delmar Glaze, OT, Maryland Myles Cole, EDGE, Texas Tech Kristian Boyd, DT, Northern Iowa Javontae Jean-Baptiste, DL, Notre Dame Jordan Magee, LB, Temple Myles Harden, CB, South Dakota Jalen Green, EDGE, James Madison (UDFA Target prospect) Trey Taylor, S, Air Force (UDFA prospect) Eyabi Okie-Anoma, EDGE, Charlotte Qwan'tez Stiggers, CB, Toronto Sundiata Anderson, EDGE, Grambling State Daequan Hardy, CB, Penn State (Special Teams, Returner) Emani Bailey, RB, TCU As for Vikings, I don't wanna rush to draft QB if the team isn't confident in the guys they could move up in draft range, and I'd like to just draft impact players that build the roster at this point. Build the team, draft a franchise QB at right time, don't rush and ruin years trying to make someone work out in the NFL. Thanks. That is a lot of sleepers. Looking at those names, Jordan Magee, Sundiata Anderson, and Trey Taylor are from smaller schools. I have my eye on Myles Cole and Myles Harden. We need a RB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikingsFanInChennai Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 2 minutes ago, NFLfan said: Thanks. That seems to be too many people to be sleepers. That seems like a fourth of the draft. Looking at those names, Jordan Magee, Sundiata Anderson, and Trey Taylor are from smaller schools. I have my eye on Myles Cole and Myles Harden. We need a RB. Yeah, I didn't think of it as list for sleepers, I just provided the list of guys I liked.. Sleepers Isaac Guerendo Kristian Boyd Myles Harden McKinnley Jackson Daequan Hardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikingsFanInChennai Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 hour ago, stitches said: @VikingsFanInChennai who do you want for the Vikings? If you had your choice of the 3 - Maye, Daniels, McCarthy? Who do you pick? I like Drake Maye very much, I think it would be worth a shot to move up and get him if he gets out of top QB selections. I like Daniels, but don't think he could play same style of QB in the NFL, he'll need to develop more of a passer which I'm not sure will happen. I don't like the mechanics of McCarthy, he has some beautiful throws but overall doesn't have the touch, consistency and accuracy I'd like to see from QBs. I think that puts a cap on his ceiling. I'll be okay with Vikings taking him at #23 if he's still available, otherwise won't move up for him or others. I didn't watch Penix or Nix much, if Vikings like any of the two really bad, I'd like them to take with #23 pick, not earlier. I just don't want to draft a QB just because they feel forced, I'd go with Darnold this year and hope to get QB in next draft(s), whenever it works out to get a top prospect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cdgacoltsfan Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 I predict that the Cardinals will draft MHJ at exactly 8:40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 19 hours ago, NFLfan said: That is not a popular opinion here. Some love Kirk as if he did so much for us. Keenum won 13 regular season games for the Vikings in 2017 with a tiny fraction of what Kirk was paid. Anyway, let's keep this to draft related stuff. Who are your sleepers in this draft? Who do you think will be the QB of the future for the Vikes? I'm really nervous about this draft. 😂 I will say one last thing on this subject, you were never winning the SB with Case Keenum - he was average. The year he won 13 games, Vikings got blown out by Philly in the playoffs 38-7. Kirk gave you a punchers chance to win every year. IMO, I just think Kirk was underappreciated by Vikings fans over the years. Please read these words - I never even said Kirk was great, but he was good. On to the Draft where I will keep it - good luck tonight and I hope you get the QB you want because I think the Vikings are going QB. They almost have to with Goff, Love, and Williams being in that division. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLfan Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 4 hours ago, VikingsFanInChennai said: like Daniels, but don't think he could play same style of QB in the NFL, he'll need to develop more of a passer which I'm not sure will happen. They said the same thing about Lamar Jackson. Actually many thought he would not make it in the NFL...running QB, etc 4 hours ago, VikingsFanInChennai said: I like Drake Maye very much, I Vikes FO likes Maye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 It’s Draft Day!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikingsFanInChennai Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 46 minutes ago, NFLfan said: They said the same thing about Lamar Jackson. Actually many thought he would not make it in the NFL...running QB, etc Vikes FO likes Maye Yeah, that's exactly why I am doubtful of Daniels... When I see Lamar Jackson or Jalen Hurts or Anthony Richardson, I see very well built frame, a strong muscular upper frame in all these guys supported by athletic lower frame. Daniels isn't built like Josh Allen too, he's even lighter than that.. Being a running QB isn't a problem for me as long as he has right mindset and intelligence, but Daniels has lean frame and his tape has lots of reckless running (which worked wonders at the college level), which will bring few major hits. I think Daniels will have to be very shrewd to survive in the NFL, and I hope he has it. He did look to have lightning-like burst and acceleration, so may be we'll see a new, unique set of parameters working out well for him in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikingsFanInChennai Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 17 minutes ago, csmopar said: It’s Draft Day!! Happy Draftmas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikingsFanInChennai Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: I will say one last thing on this subject, you were never winning the SB with Case Keenum - he was average. The year he won 13 games, Vikings got blown out by Philly in the playoffs 38-7. Kirk gave you a punchers chance to win every year. IMO, I just think Kirk was underappreciated by Vikings fans over the years. Please read these words - I never even said Kirk was great, but he was good. On to the Draft where I will keep it - good luck tonight and I hope you get the QB you want because I think the Vikings are going QB. They almost have to with Goff, Love, and Williams being in that division. Vikings have Sam Darnold at worst, a tank job 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 3 minutes ago, VikingsFanInChennai said: Vikings have Sam Darnold at worst, a tank job Sam is terrible . Too bad Arch can't come out until 2026. You could tank for Arch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikingsFanInChennai Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 @2006Coltsbestever Draft starts in about half an hour, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, VikingsFanInChennai said: @2006Coltsbestever Draft started in about half an hour, right? yes sir. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikingsFanInChennai Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: Sam is terrible . Too bad Arch can't come out until 2026. You could tank for Arch He may be No Beuno, but terrible doesn't get you a MONO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, VikingsFanInChennai said: He may be No Beuno, but terrible doesn't get you a MONO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shive Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 15 minutes ago, VikingsFanInChennai said: Vikings have Sam Darnold at worst, a tank job I think Darnold could have his best season under KOC. He's bounced around in terrible situations (Jets/Panthers), then backed up Purdy when he actually had a good team around him. If nothing else, the Vikings have a strong OL and some good weapons that Darnold never had in his prior stops as the starter. Edit: To clarify, I don't think Darnold will be anything special for the Vikings, but I don't think he'll be terrible either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLfan Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 4 minutes ago, Shive said: think Darnold could have his best season under KOC. He's bounced around in terrible situations (Jets/Panthers) I agree. Btw, shall we use this thread for the draft picks? I think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Hammonds Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Utúlie'n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatári, utúlie'n aurë! The day has come! Behold, people of the Eldar and Fathers of Men, the day has come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 3 minutes ago, NFLfan said: I agree. Btw, shall we use this thread for the draft picks? I think so. Yes! and no spoilers until announced on official TV broadcast 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLfan Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 43 minutes ago, csmopar said: It’s Draft Day!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshinator Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, csmopar said: Yes! and no spoilers until announced on official TV broadcast Agreed. Can't stress this hard enough. Anyone watch the movie DraftDay today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLfan Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Is it a spoiler to announce the first pick of the NFL Draft? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Hammonds Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, NFLfan said: Is it a spoiler to announce the first pick of the NFL Draft? What are the chances that the Bears take their full time before they send the card up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, NFLfan said: Is it a spoiler to announce the first pick of the NFL Draft? Who Caleb Williams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshinator Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, John Hammonds said: What are the chances that the Bears take their full time before they send the card up? 85-90%. They will stay see what is offered to them. They only have 4 picks. @2006Coltsbestever Are you ready my friend? It's DRAFT DAY!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 3 minutes ago, NFLfan said: Is it a spoiler to announce the first pick of the NFL Draft? I thought I announced that in our mock about a month ago? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 minute ago, Yoshinator said: 85-90%. They will stay see what is offered to them. They only have 4 picks. @2006Coltsbestever Are you ready my friend? It's DRAFT DAY!!!! Ready, anxious to see how this goes down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLfan Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Last 4 minutes to make your predictions on Dr.T's Annual Colts Draft contest!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshinator Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, NFLfan said: Last 4 minutes to make your predictions on Dr.T's Annual Colts Draft contest!! I put in some good work on mine. Hoping to win this year. 1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: Ready, anxious to see how this goes down. Yeah, I'm a bit nervous. Thinking there's a decent chance we trade up to get a tier 1 player. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 6 minutes ago, Yoshinator said: Agreed. Can't stress this hard enough. Anyone watch the movie DraftDay today? Only about 4 times since Sunday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshinator Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Just now, csmopar said: Only about 4 times since Sunday LOVE IT! I hope Ballard can pull some Kevin Costner magic. Wonder who Bo Callahan is this year? I think it's between Maye and McCarthy. Those are my two QB busts early this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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