Colts have 4th pick (Official Discussion Thread)

[Aaron86]

Young's size is a problem but his stats are hard to overlook. I would go CJ and if he is gone, go with Levis. I think both are going to be really good with the right coaching. I really like how CJ put it all out there and played his bowl game. I think Levis sitting out may have hurt him a little, he could have gave scouts more film to study. But all in all I am just excited we are in this position and can move on from the QB carousel we have been on. And I will get behind any QB we pick. 

[danlhart87]

6 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Yeah but Levi’s or stroud would still be there for colts. I think there is a good chance young drops to right around ten or a couple spots lower.

Young wouldn't fall past Raiders or Panthers 

[danlhart87]

Draft Will Levis 

Win SB 60 in Levi's Stadium 

 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just now, danlhart87 said:

Young wouldn't fall past Raiders or Panthers 

Yeah right around end of top ten. Falcons, raiders, panthers. Carr has been rumored to panthers.  

[NewColtsFan]

3 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

He has sources within the organization. So I tend to believe him on this. 
 

I know you think it’s true.  But stop and ask yourself this.  If you’re Chris Ballard do you want this out in public if it’s true?    No.    You only want this out if it helps you.  
 

Remember, the number one rule in the draft season is that most leaks are FALSE. They are smoke screens. 
 

There’s only a few people in the Colts building who know that info right now.   The only reason for the “source” to give out that info is to benefit the Colts, not hurt the Colts.   If you’re the source are you risking your job giving up the info against Ballard’s orders?   No.   You’re giving up the info because Ballard wants the info out there.  
 

Odds are extremely high this is a smoke screen.    And I think it’s fine.   It’s smart.    Shows a lot of thought by the front office. 

[danlhart87]

Will Levis 1st day of practice 

 

I made coffee for everyone!

 

Everyone 

 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just now, danlhart87 said:

Draft Will Levis 

Win SB 60 in Levi's Stadium 

 

Every time I type Levis in I keep getting it typed Levi’s. Lol

[GRUMPY OLD MAN]

54 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

I don't know. I think the Bears would want atleast one future first

our first in 2024 will be the number 1 pick, wait till then.draft best player at 4, get hooker in lower rounds

[danlhart87]

There's no way I trade future 1st for anybody in this class 

[Aaron86]

7 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Yeah but Levi’s or stroud would still be there for colts. I think there is a good chance young drops to right around ten or a couple spots lower.

I think he is going to drop into the 2nd. I wouldn't bet on it but I could see it happening. His size is going to be a issue. I do like what I have seen from him. But in today's NFL, I can't see any team being like they want him as first overall. I think he will go from 10 to the middle of the 2nd. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just now, NewColtsFan said:

I know you think it’s true.  But stop and ask yourself this.  If you’re Chris Ballard do you want this out in public if it’s true?    No.    You only want this out if it helps you.  
 

Remember, the number one rule in the draft season is that most leaks are FALSE. They are smoke screens. 
 

There’s only a few people in the Colts building who know that info right now.   The only reason for the “source” to give out that info is to benefit the Colts, not hurt the Colts.   If you’re the source are you risking your job giving up the info against Ballard’s orders?   No.   You’re giving up the info because Ballard wants the info out there.  
 

Odds are extremely high this is a smoke screen.    And I think it’s fine.   It’s smart.    Shows a lot of thought by the front office. 

Doesn’t mean things won’t change. Combine and interviews can change a lot. But as of right now I think it’s probably right. It’s easy to predict this knowing Ballard too.

[GRUMPY OLD MAN]

58 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

I don't know. I think the Bears would want atleast one future first

no dont do it

[danlhart87]

Teams are gonna love Levis come draft time! He will kill it in interviews and the overall process and he has the protypical size you want! I could easily see him as #1.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

This could change the draft a lot too.  So much smoke he wants our. 
 

 

[BlackTiger]

2 hours ago, masterlock said:

I'm not so sure about that. Levis' detractors want to dismiss the "inconvenient truth" that he simply didn't have the surrounding cast at UK. But when you watch the tape, so many times he just doesn't have open receivers to throw to. This was a constant theme in 2022. And he was one of the most pressured quarterbacks in college football.

 

IMO, Levis has the best overall COMBINATION of skills and traits--size, athleticism, passing skills (throwing motion, touch, arm strength, throwing his receivers open, etc.). He really only needs to improve in one area: turnovers. There's no reason to think he can't do that with proper coaching. He's THE prototypical QB and the safest pick IMO, and I'd be excited if the Colts got him.

I think he could be good but picking him that high seems risky to me.  Looks like a weird class with everyone ranking these guys differently 

[Aaron86]

2 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

Teams are gonna love Levis come draft time! He will kill it in interviews and the overall process and he has the protypical size you want! I could easily see him as #1.

Honestly I think it's between him or CJ and I dont thinks its even close.

[danlhart87]

https://twitter.com/conormcq5/status/1507345416970506242?s=21

 

[NewColtsFan]

47 minutes ago, craigerb said:

Has anyone considered trading down to pick #262 for a playoff calibre QB?

Bravo!   Well played!!   
 

Easy front runner for funniest post of the day!!   
 

                 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

4 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

https://twitter.com/conormcq5/status/1507345416970506242?s=21

 

It was deleted. What did it say.

[NewColtsFan]

23 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

Don't say ever! There's a slim chance Stroud and Levis go before Young.

 

If Young is the QB there I am certain Ballard would run to get him.

Why do you think the order the QBs will be drafted is already figured out by all 32 teams?    It’s not unanimous Young is number one.   Same with Stroud.  And same with Levis.  There’s no clear obvious top rated quarterback in this class.  Each QB has teams that think their choice is the best.   

[JColts72]

10 minutes ago, BlackTiger said:

I think he could be good but picking him that high seems risky to me.  Looks like a weird class with everyone ranking these guys differently 

All 3 will be ranked 1 at different times; just watch.

[NewColtsFan]

13 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Doesn’t mean things won’t change. Combine and interviews can change a lot. But as of right now I think it’s probably right. It’s easy to predict this knowing Ballard too.

Couldn’t help but notice you couldn’t  answer any of my questions.  That’s because the logic is entirely against you.  

 

You desperately want every tweet you post to be right.  Even when it makes no sense. 

 

Sorry. 

[CR91]

14 minutes ago, DEFENSE said:

our first in 2024 will be the number 1 pick, wait till then.draft best player at 4, get hooker in lower rounds

 

Can't think like that. Every season is different. This is a golden opportunity for the franchise to finally get back on track with a franchise QB. Stroud is not like Haskins or Barnett or any other Ohio State QB. The kid is a franchise changer

[JColts72]

15 minutes ago, Aaron86 said:

I think he is going to drop into the 2nd. I wouldn't bet on it but I could see it happening. His size is going to be a issue. I do like what I have seen from him. But in today's NFL, I can't see any team being like they want him as first overall. I think he will go from 10 to the middle of the 2nd. 

No way Young will go 2nd round. 

[danlhart87]

5 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

Why do you think the order the QBs will be drafted is already figured out by all 32 teams?    It’s not unanimous Young is number one.   Same with Stroud.  And same with Levis.  There’s no clear obvious top rated quarterback in this class.  Each QB has teams that think their choice is the best.   

Chloe said Colts probably wouldn't ever take Young and I gave reason why they still could

[NewColtsFan]

25 minutes ago, Aaron86 said:

I think he is going to drop into the 2nd. I wouldn't bet on it but I could see it happening. His size is going to be a issue. I do like what I have seen from him. But in today's NFL, I can't see any team being like they want him as first overall. I think he will go from 10 to the middle of the 2nd. 

Odds are Young doesn’t get out of the top-10.   Murray is 5’10”.   Wilson is 5’10 and 5/8”.   
 

I love the kid, he has all the intangible’s you want, but his height/weight scare the heck out of me.   Too much risk. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

4 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

Chloe said Colts probably wouldn't ever take Young and I gave reason why they still could

He could blow them away in interviews. He could test really well. You are right there is that small chance. It’s not zero.

[ADnum1]

Young could be injury prone because his size

 

 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

13 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

Couldn’t help but notice you couldn’t  answer any of my questions.  That’s because the logic is entirely against you.  

 

You desperately want every tweet you post to be right.  Even when it makes no sense. 

 

Sorry. 

You know Ballard. You know how he operates. I know you always want to disregard insider stuff. There are two or 3 people you can trust for info. They are careful what they release. They don’t just put stuff out there to get attention. Those few people are good at their jobs.  Saying that things  change. Because colts  are interested about a player doesn’t mean it happens.  Anything that doesn’t come from those few people can mostly be disregarded.

[Wage]

Would be an absolute franchise killer to trade next year's first which will likely be top 5 to move up to 1 and select Stroud who will probably be the 3rd best QB in this draft. 

[LJpalmbeacher2]

24 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

I know you think it’s true.  But stop and ask yourself this.  If you’re Chris Ballard do you want this out in public if it’s true?    No.    You only want this out if it helps you.  
 

Remember, the number one rule in the draft season is that most leaks are FALSE. They are smoke screens. 
 

There’s only a few people in the Colts building who know that info right now.   The only reason for the “source” to give out that info is to benefit the Colts, not hurt the Colts.   If you’re the source are you risking your job giving up the info against Ballard’s orders?   No.   You’re giving up the info because Ballard wants the info out there.  
 

Odds are extremely high this is a smoke screen.    And I think it’s fine.   It’s smart.    Shows a lot of thought by the front office. 

 

I don't disagree with you BUT smoke screen for who?? Don't you think the other 31 GM's  know this because they do it themselves? 

 

I think draft and off-season rumors are mostly just to write something for their websites, youtubers, and feed hungry for information fans.

 

But overall your right, it doesn't mean much if anything. 

[richard pallo]

1 hour ago, chad72 said:

 

No.4 pick, Pittman, Kenny Moore, current 2nd, future 2nd and future 4th, something like that is what I anticipate.

If Pittman and Moore are the players I think we have to include a future 1st.  If it’s Buckner or Nelson I think we can keep it.  I am hoping we can hold on to this year’s 2nd.

[JColts72]

Could put out false views on Young hoping he drops to 4,? by saying too small and other nonsense.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just now, richard pallo said:

If Pittman and Moore are the players I think we have to include a future 1st.  If it’s Buckner or Nelson I think we can keep it.  I am hoping we can hold on to this year’s 2nd.

The WR FA market isn’t very good and I don’t know about  draft. More I think about it Pittman needs to stay. The young QB needs weapons. 

[masterlock]

Nelson's not going anywhere. I also doubt Bucker is going anywhere. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

1 minute ago, JColts72 said:

Could put out false views on Young hoping he drops to 4,? by saying too small and other nonsense.

For some teams I could see this. But we know Ballard so I don’t think that is true for colts. Ballard would have to really think young has some really special traits to draft him. 

[richard pallo]

1 hour ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Strouds accuracy is off the charts good. Levis might have a higher ceiling. If we could bring Campbell back I like what stroud could do with him in the slot.

If we trade Pittman I would hope resigning Campbell would be a priority.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just now, masterlock said:

Nelson's not going anywhere. I also doubt Bucker is going anywhere. 

Kenny Moore is the one I can see going to bears. But QB supersedes anything else so they might have to do something they wouldn’t otherwise do. 

[chad72]

2 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

If Pittman and Moore are the players I think we have to include a future 1st.  If it’s Buckner or Nelson I think we can keep it.  I am hoping we can hold on to this year’s 2nd.

FA might give us clues, I feel. Both Buckner and Nelson cost us first rounders, hate to part with either.

 

IF it’s a future 1st, and current 2nd, no reason to give up any player now that Stroud has declared.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

1 minute ago, richard pallo said:

If we trade Pittman I would hope resigning Campbell would be a priority.

Sounds like if they offer Campbell a fair deal he wants to come back. I think knowing we are drafting a QB and hopefully stability is coming should help him come back.