Nose Tackle

[coltnorth]

Has anybody heard about the colts looking for a nose tackle yet? Pretty sure you need one for a 3-4. I guess the NT's we would be looking for aren't top tier but wouldn't hurt to pick up the phone

[Gavin]

Gonna get one in the draft I assume, and I like that idea

[Blackhawk4]

At this point, it's more likely we get one through the draft. The quality ones have already been resigned by their respective teams.

[Gavin]

Pretty sure they get one in the draft

[coltnorth]

Other than Poe, theres nobody beleived to be able to start next year. If this is the case, i'm guessing we see a lot more 4-3 than 3-4

[Gavin]

Maybe he wont start but I like Ta'amu, as well showed alot effort at combine but that s not everything I know

[MTC]

Nicholas Jean-Baptise is who I want at NT.

[CR91]

i still think nevis can play NT

[CS Colts Fan]

I read a clip and have been searching for it, but no avail... on rotoworld Franklin and garay were listed as two NT the colts and 2 or 3 other teams were looking at

[Tark The Shark]

Nicholas Jean-Baptise is who I want at NT.

I agree, his is an article I found about athletes that weren't invited to the combine and Nicolas Jean-Baptiste wasn't invited and could be a late round pick/undrafted FA http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1080267-nfl-combine-2012-5-top-prospects-that-werent-invited/page/4

[atapcl]

It would be good if we could get Ta'Amu and Baptise because we need two.

[Gavin]

ah so many decisions I respect Irsay all the more

[SubZero]

Nicholas Jean-Baptise is who I want at NT.

Yes i love Jean-Baptise. Get him in the 4th round.

[CS Colts Fan]

Jean-Baptist would be good.. I like Aikeem Hicks great athlete probably 3-5 th rnd I like Josh Chapman Alabama he is projected 6th rnd in bleacher report

[Jason_]

I'd like to get Josh Chapman (recovering from an injury so will slip further than he should) and Jean-Baptiste. Both should be available in the mid-late rounds and would be excellent value imo.

[alfred87]

Jean-Baptist would be good.. I like Aikeem Hicks great athlete probably 3-5 th rnd I like Josh Chapman Alabama he is projected 6th rnd in bleacher report

I like chapman in the fourth

[CS Colts Fan]

I'm seeing he is projected later.. which would be even better, but if we don;t have a NT and he's available we should grap him.. I think he would be able to start do you?

[Andy]

If the Colts don't get one in the FA, which is what will probably happen (they wont get a NT in FA, due to nobody availiable), they should target Alamada Ta'amu in the draft, who is a big run stopping NT that draws many double teams.

[Gavin]

assuming they have the money now lol after they Draft Luck

[Gavin]

at this point I dont know how much money we have beyond the Luck signing, I hear we still can sing some of the people we need to get under contract but how much money is left

[OLD FAN MAN]

i still think nevis can play NT

he is small for that spot, but could be effort will make up for him being little

[CR91]

he is small for that spot, but could be effort will make up for him being little

height hes small, but he weights just as much as jay ratleff

[indycrazy1887]

if nevis can stay healthy this year our Dline will be good. dontari poe couldve been ours in the 2nd round before the combine but his draft stock went waaaaay upp lol

[Gavin]

assuming we can sign them after our recent free agent signings

[Brett Snyder]

i still think nevis can play NT

I hinted at this in another thread, people jumped all over me. The impression some people have is you have to be a tall guy to be a nose tackle. When really, you just need to play with leverage. Nevis is short, and can get under bigger guys, which gives him the leverage. Do I think we shouldn't get someone else besides Johnson and Nevis? Of course not, but to say Nevis absolutely can't play that position well because someone can't invision them playing a "big mans" role, is flawed and pretty narrow minded.

[Brett Snyder]

height hes small, but he weights just as much as jay ratleff

Lol, I also said this. I like coltsrule

[Gavin]

how big is Nevis as far as height weight

[Gavin]

6'1 294 he is listed on the site here, we need a run clogger Im thinking Pagano wants 315 or more, Nevis would do better at defensive end if hes explosive defensive tackles are often guarded by the center and a guard at that size a guard would have no problem taken him down and swallowing him up, as we have seen with our undersized linemen for years now, maybe if we run the hybrid we use one 320 plus an the other DT more a explosive penetrator,, other then that in a 3-4 Ill take the 320 plus guy and take my chances, after seeing the colts get ran over, through, and around for the last 14 years

[JWF]

Nevis can work if we run a one gap 3-4 which is what Dallas ran with Ratliff at the nose. Otherwise its going to be difficult for him to control 2 gaps and face consistent double teams.

[Gavin]

Id rather take my chances in big tackles, what happens when little man slams into bigger man 9 times out of ten from mere inches apart? little man loses, go back their is 14 years worth of proof of it, yes I know 294 isnt small but but 3-4 nose tackle standards it is, and yes Ratliff is a rare exception, but better linebackers around him at this point, we got Angerer but Im not old on the others

[The Peytonator]

I hinted at this in another thread, people jumped all over me. The impression some people have is you have to be a tall guy to be a nose tackle. When really, you just need to play with leverage. Nevis is short, and can get under bigger guys, which gives him the leverage. Do I think we shouldn't get someone else besides Johnson and Nevis? Of course not, but to say Nevis absolutely can't play that position well because someone can't invision them playing a "big mans" role, is flawed and pretty narrow minded.

Hey man I've been saying this for the last couple months. People get enamoured by a guy's height and weight, yet fail to realize football isn't a game of measurables. It's a game of talent. Drake Nevis has talent, and as long as he can penetrate the backfield, he will play. They also don't realize that Nevis probably weighs more than his listed 290. I'd say he's around 310. But like I said, it doesn't really matter that much.

[Gavin]

Id be willing to see just cause this season will be tough as I see it but I just dont see, especially after coming off an injury, but if hes got explosion then Id rather take him at defensive end we may need him more their if we release freeny cause of that cap hit, Ricardo Matthews showed some things at DT but I think he got injured last year, maybe he just declined and Im wrong about that but he could penetrate

[Andy]

To all the people saying that Nevis can play 3-4 NT. That's great if he could play, but I would like a guy who has played it before and has a big body for it. Nevis is a great player, but that's not his positon. Let him play 3-4 DE, and sign or draft a NT, let the NT do the job he's used to.

[Gavin]

at this stage its a rotation in my mind till proven otherwise so Id be willing to experiment

[Malakai432]

assuming we can sign them after our recent free agent signings

at this point I dont know how much money we have beyond the Luck signing, I hear we still can sing some of the people we need to get under contract but how much money is left

I'm not a cap expert, but if we are going to have ridiculous cap room next year we could sign players to back loaded contracts this year perhaps. That's my assumption however FJC or Frog could clarify that for us.

[Gavin]

Hmm suddenly got real quiet with 10 people here

[Malakai432]

Hmm suddenly got real quiet with 10 people here

hahah, indeed they could be users that can't post. We definitely have to be one of the more popular forums that people are scourging with all the drama that has ensued.

AKA users that haven't signed up....