Boiler_Colt Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 17 minutes ago, fire cartier said: Now CBS Sports’ Jason La Canfora reports that Luck is several weeks away from being game-ready https://www.yahoo.com/sports/m/ef0b786f-4f06-392a-9315-eff417e367d3/ss_report%3A-andrew-luck-still.html Nothing new, local radio guys who are generally plugged in have been saying this for over a month. Reports were that he'll be close to returning to practice before the Browns game then will need a few weeks of practice before being game ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 @CF4L Trevor Siemian was a 7th rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingus McGirt Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 19 hours ago, BullsColtsFan1 said: I completely agree. Week 1 was embarrassing. I have my doubts but I think Brissett can make the game more competitive. At least more exciting, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingus McGirt Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 13 hours ago, 1959Colts said: I believe they will start Tolzien again vs Arizona. Using the excuse Brissett is still not ready. Is any backup...well except for Brady back in the Jim Kelly days, every really "ready?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingus McGirt Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 12 hours ago, RockThatBlue said: I don't understand why some in this thread are acting like Ballard should get no blame for Tolzein. Ballard is literally the GM. He could cut Scott anytime he wants too, but yet he was and is still here. He does not have to keep him even if Pagano was wanting him too. Unless Jim Irsay is involved... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reboot Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 23 hours ago, Valpo2004 said: Watch . . . Pagano is going to talk like he's not sure about the starter next week. Say something about watching film or some crap like that. Scott Tolzien is going to get the majority of the 1st team reps in practice Wednesday and Thursday. During those days Pagano will talk about "competition" and "chopping wood" and "next man up" Talk about how well Tolzien prepares, how smart he is, and how well he knows the offense. Friday Pagano says "Scott Tolzien is our starter against Arizona." Tolzien will again throw more touchdown passes to the other team then to his own team. Brissett will come in again once the game is firmly out of hand. Do decently well under the circumstances. . . But the Colts lose by 30+ points. Andrew Luck will again stare helplessly up at the scoreboard thinking "I sure do hope Ballard drafts me a decent OL, or improves the defense after all of this." Rinse - Repeat. Get used to it Gentlemen. . . it's going to be like this for a while. I think you're 100% right. And one of the reasons is, if the Colts go to Brissett in week 2, when he may know about 20-30% of the play book, you can't go back to Tolzien. I mean, Tolzien is the least comfortable human being I've seen in any situation when he's on the field - you can't go back to him if Brissett fails, gets hurt, or quits when he too realizes he isn't going to be protected by that grade-school OL. Tolzien, once pulled, should never, ever again, see a football field. The Colts can't do that this week. Unless they sign Morris today, soon. And one other thing, I can't wrap my head around the organization not getting a veteran QB when they had to know this could turn into weeks, a month, more. But having screwed that up, they compound the problem by removing Luck from the PUP list, Another horrible decision. By all accounts now it's going to be 4-6 weeks. How can one front office bungle something this important so badly, not once, but twice????? So so frustrating... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsColtsFan1 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 3 hours ago, Dingus McGirt said: At least more exciting, eh? Exactly! He has the size, he obviously has the arm (50 yarder to Moncrief) and he can scramble and use his legs. He gives them a better chance even if he's only been there for a little over a week. I am sure he's learned from Tom Brady too, Brady said he'd miss working with Brissett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron11 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 12 hours ago, DougDew said: Rick Venturi calls Brissett another third string QB. disagree with that, i think hes at least second string material with upside higher than that venturi is just mad that we gave up on dorsett, and its giving him a very biased opinion of brisett i think dorsett is just another back up WR myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougDew Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, aaron11 said: disagree with that, i think hes at least second string material with upside higher than that venturi is just mad that we gave up on dorsett, and its giving him a very biased opinion of brisett i think dorsett is just another back up WR myself Who knows if or why Venturi would be biased. They are probably of equal value, hence the straight up trade. So I guess Dorsett should be thought of as a 2nd round pick instead of a late first. Brissett will be up to speed about the time Luck will be ready to play, but Luck won't have Dorsett as an option. But we'll have a backup QB ready on the bench if he gets hurt again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleevit Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 As I said in another post, with Tolzien having the entire offseason to prepare with the starters, this outing proves that you could literally start any other QB on any other NFL roster and have at least as good a chance as with this guy. Play Jacoby, bring Morris back or someone else to back him up and get this dead weight out of the discussion. C'mon Ballard do some of that GM stuff. I can't stand much more of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDcolt Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Reading Pags is not sure who the starting QB is this week, WOW! I lost all RESPECT at this point & really dumbfounded at how we became the biggest laughing stock in this League in such short period. EMBARRASED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Colt Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Tolzien displayed what he has to offer which collectively next to nothing. So the Colts must look elsewhere to the next man up. With the Texans and Titans losing their first game as well has to factor in somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsBlitz Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 On 9/10/2017 at 7:51 PM, jvan1973 said: Why isn't he getting any criticism? He's probably evaluating whether the coaching staff is capable of making their own decisions to see if he wants to fire them or not. I think this week was a clear indication the staff is clueless to what needs to be done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueShoe Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 hour ago, ColtsBlitz said: He's probably evaluating whether the coaching staff is capable of making their own decisions to see if he wants to fire them or not. I think this week was a clear indication the staff is clueless to what needs to be done Exactly. If Ballard allowed this to continue and did not make a change at the end of the season then it would be on him. It's safe to say the coaches are not doing too well on the 2017 evaluation. Might have to bring in the Bob's soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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